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Chinasaur · 09:48 PM

Shades of Nixon and Rose Mary Woods -

InternetNews Realtime IT News - White House Fesses Up to Missing Data

Another Republican Admin..Nixon, Reagan Bush...more lies.

What are you right wing nut jobs going to pull out to counter lies about the war? Lies about torture? Lies about spying on Americans.

Bills BJ? ROFL at you.

lefty mclefty · May 7, 2008, 06:24 PM

all true, my new friend chinasaur....these neocon bedwetters (source:daily kos) just don't get it....they have wreaked total havoc on the country, and they can't understand why there getting tossed out on their keisters...the people have spoken: get out!!!!

design219 · May 8, 2008, 08:23 AM

It's the second time White House officials have indicated that data could have been erased as part of a tape recycling process

Well, it looks like they are finally trying to do something positive for the environment!

Cheers for the Bush administration!

Dork. · May 8, 2008, 08:54 AM

Go read the slashdot discussions on this matter, they are informative.

If you recall, the Clinton administration had its own issues with E-mails, and by the end of it the E-mail system in the White House was running under Lotus Notes and automatically archiving whatever needed to be archived. When Bush came into office, the entire E-mail system was junked immediately in favor of Exchange, but nobody bothered to put together an automated archiving and retention system. When the White House IT folks were reminded that they needed to keep this stuff, their solution was to assign someone to periodically go through all the E-mails and manually save them in Exchange's mailbox format. Not a particularly robust solution, if you ask me.

No matter what your political leanings are (both in terms of national politics and E-mail server preferences), you've got to admit that the new White House IT staff screwed up big time. Corporations have been using both Notes and Exchange for quite a while, and anyone who administers them should know about the retention and archiving solutions available to them.

Chinasaur · May 8, 2008, 02:12 PM

This isn't a screw up. Just like Nixon..this is destruction of evidence and obstruction of justice.

lefty mclefty · May 8, 2008, 03:01 PM

and, these are the same folks that say "trust us, we are only looking at foreign phone calls...we'd like to prove it, but we can't, national security and all...." it's time to wake up, soon the white house will be in the dems hands.. you righties will be running for your lives... ha ha ha!

design219 · May 8, 2008, 03:07 PM

Where are the right-wingers? This thread is asking for a fight.

lefty mclefty · May 8, 2008, 03:17 PM

they are not worthy of this topic....there is no defense...they are part of the problem...if there not with us, there against us...bush asked god to try and sort it out, but god told him he couldn't, so that's where we stand...anyone want to buy shares of haliburton?...how about exxon?...get them while there hot!....they won't be much longer....ha ha ha!!!

BadKosh · May 15, 2008, 01:26 PM

Because obama will sell us out the the chinese?

ghporter · May 15, 2008, 01:49 PM

Originally Posted by Chinasaur

This isn't a screw up. Just like Nixon..this is destruction of evidence and obstruction of justice.

It's inexcusable, but it's hardly erasing a particularly crucial 18 minutes of audio tape. It's stupid and incompetent. But let's remember what old Bill's folks did when they vacated their offices. Remember all those missing "W" keys? The other sabotage done to all the office IT systems throughout the EOP? Yep, Bill's folks poked the pooch badly on that. Really intelligent and mature behavior there. The Bush administration is simply proving that they're not terribly bright and not terribly competent. Switching to Exchange vice Notes? Great! Not setting up a usable and dependable backup system? Awful!

There were previous issues not having anything to do with the war in which it has been shown that the IT staff of the White House is there because of their politics, not their credentials. Hold off on the "this is CRIMINAL!!!!" wailing until something really substantial comes up-you probably won't have to wait long. This is peanuts.

design219 · May 15, 2008, 05:52 PM

Originally Posted by ghporter

Remember all those missing "W" keys?

Wow, that really is on par with this.

ghporter · May 15, 2008, 06:43 PM

Originally Posted by design219

Wow, that really is on par with this.

I didn't say it was anything like losing three months of emails in the White House. I pointed this out because it was so blatant and so juvenile. And the Clinton White House IT department was no great shakes either. They lost tons of stuff only to have it show up later when they were going to go to jail because of it. Wasn't there a huge amount of travel office traffic that disappeared-but not other stuff that was sent at the same time? In other words, the Clinton IT people were not any better and were pretty much after a quick "I don't have it" answer (until threatened with jail), whereas it looks like the Bush IT staff at least admits that their processes are so junked up that they can't find a whole quarter's worth of emails that they are required to keep backed up.