[Helmling]

Clearly--and many within her party have said so for months--she is hurting the Democratic party by continuing a race she has almost no chance of winning. Clearly, she is hoping to pull some "nuclear" shenannegans at the convention to win. Clearly she is so desperate to see her decades-long scheme to hold power come to fruition that she simply cannot admit defeat.

But check out this quote:

"There was just an AP article posted that found how Sen. Obama's support among hardworking Americans, white Americans is weakening again, and how the whites in both states that have not completed college were supporting me," Clinton said in a USA Today interview May 7.

What precisely is she celebrating here? That uneducated racists support her? Why else stress the education level and ethnicity of this demographic? Why else look at these supporters from this angle? Is this how cynical politics in this country has become that our leaders will reduce us all to the most simplistic demographic descriptors in the hope of manipulating us by some shallow group identifications?

That last one is rhetorical.

[smacintush]

Funny how those on the right are supposed to be the racists, but it's the left who brings it up first and most often.

So much for being "colorblind".

[Helmling]

Right, left...God, let's move past that nonsense. It's yet another tool the powerful use to manipulate us.

[Chongo]

They are bearing the fruits of Identity Politics.

[spacefreak]

Originally Posted by Helmling 

Clearly--and many within her party have said so for months--she is hurting the Democratic party by continuing a race she has almost no chance of winning.

Yet she keeps winning states. Obama has what - one win (NC) since February? Why should she quit? 40%-55% of the electorate, depending on the state, continues to vote for her.

If you think she's hurting the party, then those 40%-55% of Democrat voters who have voted for her are also hurting the party.

[Paco500]

Originally Posted by spacefreak 

Yet she keeps winning states. Obama has what - one win (NC) since February? Why should she quit? 40%-55% of the electorate, depending on the state, continues to vote for her.

If you think she's hurting the party, then those 40%-55% of Democrat voters who have voted for her are also hurting the party.

He's had 4 wins, or, one could argue, 6 if you count Texas (he got more delegates, but lower bpopular vote) and Guam (he got more of the popular vote but tied for delagates).

[Chongo]

I this SNL bit. (sorry for the cross post)
YouTube - Hillary Clinton skewered by SNL as a Sore Loser

[spacefreak]

Originally Posted by Paco500 

He's had 4 wins, or, one could argue, 6 if you count Texas (he got more delegates, but lower bpopular vote) and Guam (he got more of the popular vote but tied for delagates).

I stand corrected. Thanks.

My main point still remains, though: Hillary is still winning primaries. If she were losing every single one, slinging mud while Obama had comfortably surpassed the number of delegates needed... then I could see the calls for her to quit so as to not hurt the party. SInce that's not the case, let the lady campaign.

[Captain Obvious]

Originally Posted by Helmling 

What precisely is she celebrating here? That uneducated racists support her? Why else stress the education level and ethnicity of this demographic?
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She is celebrating the same thing the Obama camp celebrates when they garner 95% of the black vote. Which is easily as racially motivated. The point of stressing it is that the swing vote, you know the 20% of the electorate that is neither a republican or a democrat, tends to consist mostly of white middle class voters.

I get that this is highly offensive to whiny politically correct lemmings but the fact that hispanics and lower middle class white voters tend to reject Obama and his sermons is a very real problem for the democratic party. This election was theirs to lose, and they are doing a great job so far of throwing it away.

[Paco500]

Originally Posted by Captain Obvious 

She is celebrating the same thing the Obama camp celebrates when they garner 95% of the black vote.

The difference is, while the Obama campaign may be celebrating getting 95% of the black vote, Obama is a smart enough candidate not to got on national TV and brag about it. While race is no doubt an issue in this campaign (as it is in lots of them), Hillary can't stop talking about it.

[Helmling]

Originally Posted by spacefreak 

I stand corrected. Thanks.

My main point still remains, though: Hillary is still winning primaries. If she were losing every single one, slinging mud while Obama had comfortably surpassed the number of delegates needed... then I could see the calls for her to quit so as to not hurt the party. SInce that's not the case, let the lady campaign.

But mathematically, there's no way she can catch up...particularly now that Obama has more super delegates pledged to support him. There is NOTHING to be gained by dragging this out.

[Dakar the Fourth]

Obviously, Hilary has the opinion she has nothing to lose. Which doesn't speak well of her self-image either.

[Captain Obvious]

Originally Posted by Helmling 

But mathematically, there's no way she can catch up...particularly now that Obama has more super delegates pledged to support him. There is NOTHING to be gained by dragging this out.

Argument of the dumb.
"Mathematically" neither can win with pledged primary delegates they have.
The word and support of super delegates is not a fixed or permanent mathematical variable until the convention is over.