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Jun 4, 2008, 07:11 PM
 
Rick Falkvinge, pirate » Blog Archive » More on the Ubiquitous Wiretapping Bill

Swedish authorities are planning to pass a bill that would basically allow them to spy on every bit of Internet traffic they can get their hands on. People often think the US government is scary, but good grief, this kind of unlimited surveillance is ridiculous.
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Jun 4, 2008, 07:44 PM
 
"The Police Board said that the bill 'indicates a frightening lack of understanding for the requirements regarding the protection of citizens’ privacy...'"


When the cops say "whoa", you know it's bad.
     
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Jun 10, 2008, 11:41 PM
 
Wow - yep - that's bad. Isn't that basically what Bush does now?
     
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Jun 11, 2008, 12:27 AM
 
In a moment you will post a naive statement about how you trust your illegal wiretapping overlord.

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Not as far as I know. Bush spies on subjects of interest, not everybody on the planet.
My question is - how do you know that? Since he wiretaps illegally and did not admit it, what makes you think you know how much illegal wiretapping he is doing?
     
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Jun 11, 2008, 12:28 AM
 
Not as far as I know. Bush spies on subjects of interest, not everybody on the planet.
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Jun 11, 2008, 01:36 PM
 
So how is that going to affect high quality Swedish porn?
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Jun 11, 2008, 01:57 PM
 
Originally Posted by peeb View Post
In a moment you will post a naive statement about how you trust your illegal wiretapping overlord.



My question is - how do you know that? Since he wiretaps illegally and did not admit it, what makes you think you know how much illegal wiretapping he is doing?
We are all well aware of your feelings about Bush. Would you like to add something regarding the topic at hand, or should I just go ahead and lock this thread before we get the full on derailment?
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Originally Posted by ThinkInsane View Post
We are all well aware of your feelings about Bush. Would you like to add something regarding the topic at hand, or should I just go ahead and lock this thread before we get the full on derailment?
Pssst... you're posting a question to someone who can't answer you.
     
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Jun 11, 2008, 02:24 PM
 
Originally Posted by ThinkInsane View Post
Oh yeah, look at that! Sorry, haven't had my coffee yet.
Friendly advice: peeb seems to be getting banned lately, so it's probably worth the time to check that before posting.

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Jun 11, 2008, 02:25 PM
 
Originally Posted by Dakar the Fourth View Post
Pssst... you're posting a question to someone who can't answer you.
Oh yeah, look at that! Sorry, haven't had my coffee yet.
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Jun 11, 2008, 02:53 PM
 
Originally Posted by peeb View Post
Wow - yep - that's bad. Isn't that basically what Bush does now?
I don't know if Bush KNOWS HOW to spy. He's either a major IDIOT when convenient, or Super clever/smart/evil.

Pick one....
     
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Jun 11, 2008, 03:02 PM
 
Domestic spying is hardly a new thing in the US and hardly something that Bush though up all by himself. Anyone remember CARNIVORE? ECHELON? TIA?

Seems to me that Sweden is merely catching up.
     
   
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