[besson3c]

What a moron! We are in rough economic times, and Slowbama is going to eat this expensive looking microphone? Can't he afford to get himself some proper food? You don't EAT microphones, you moron!

[turtle777]

-t

[dav]

[Macrobat]

[SpaceMonkey]

Look at the giant teleprompter he needs just to remember his own name and what year it is!

[Macrobat]

Yeah, he's a freakin genius:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpGH02DtIws

[Dork.]

The epic pectoral Obama thread? If you say so....

[SpaceMonkey]

Originally Posted by Macrobat 

Yeah, he's a freakin genius:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpGH02DtIws

LoL! Guess it was a typo on the prompter!

[besson3c]

WTF Macrobat? The frequency of misspeaking has nothing to do with intellect. If you are stuck on this point because we always made fun of Bush's misspeaking, you are missing the point. The point with him is that he was pretty mediocre speaker even without misspeaking, at his best, the misspeaking just provided fodder on top of that.

Everybody misspeaks from time to time for a host of reasons, we are only human... Even Obama!

[besson3c]

Originally Posted by Dork. 

The epic pectoral Obama thread? If you say so....

Hey Dork., I'm a little worried. I think my wife and the longbowman from Civ IV are having an affair. Can you help me catch her in the act? I bought me some tights and a fake nerf bow and arrow to see if that will get her horny (I thought that using a real bow and arrow in the house would be dangerous), but I want to plan my unveiling at the best time. I'm thinking shirtless with the tights on, and a rose in my mouth? What do you think?

[chris v]

Epic.

[Dork.]

Originally Posted by besson3c 

Hey Dork., I'm a little worried. I think my wife and the longbowman from Civ IV are having an affair.

No, it's the Musketman she's after. Chicks dig guys with big guns.

I think you just need to relate to her better. Say things like "Hey baby, I'm iron and you're coal. Let's go and build the Ironworks together!", or "My trebuchet needs to invade your castle walls!", or "Running Free Speech and Free Religion at the same time can only lead to Free Love!". It's been a while since I've played Civ IV, so I'm sure I'm forgetting some good ones...

[besson3c]

No, it's definitely the longbowman. He stop down a helicopter with his longbow, how bad ass is that?

[smacintush]

I think I've officially lost my taste for bessie's attempts at sarcastic humor…

[CRASH HARDDRIVE]

Originally Posted by smacintush 

I think I've officially lost my taste for bessie's attempts at sarcastic humor…

That really took you this long?

Whoever it was -at whatever point in the past- that encouraged him by somehow hinting in however minor a form that something besson wrote was in any way remotely resembling something that might be mistaken for authentic humor... should be lashed with a wet poodle.

[smacintush]

Originally Posted by CRASH HARDDRIVE 

That really took you this long?

Well, let's say that I never used to find him this annoying…

[besson3c]

smacintush: have you ever thought about what it would be like to have sex with an animal?

[Shaddim]

Originally Posted by smacintush 

Well, let's say that I never used to find him this annoying…

Well, he used to be annoying (and occasionally funny), now he's just boring and predictable.

[turtle777]

Besson is such a broken record pile of poop.

-t

[Macrobat]

Originally Posted by besson3c 

WTF Macrobat? The frequency of misspeaking has nothing to do with intellect. If you are stuck on this point because we always made fun of Bush's misspeaking, you are missing the point. The point with him is that he was pretty mediocre speaker even without misspeaking, at his best, the misspeaking just provided fodder on top of that.

Everybody misspeaks from time to time for a host of reasons, we are only human... Even Obama!

Funny, that is decidedly NOT what the Left has been saying for 8 years. Double standard much?

Hate to break it to you, but saying you have been in 57 states, and have 3 left to visit is not "misspeaking," it's moronic.

Yet you have a conniption over how Bush pronounces nuclear.

LMFAO@U

[Chongo]

Originally Posted by besson3c 

WTF Macrobat? The frequency of misspeaking has nothing to do with intellect. If you are stuck on this point because we always made fun of Bush's misspeaking, you are missing the point. The point with him is that he was pretty mediocre speaker even without misspeaking, at his best, the misspeaking just provided fodder on top of that.

Everybody misspeaks from time to time for a host of reasons, we are only human... Even Obama!

Human? Everyone knows he's the Messiah

[Macrobat]

The only thing Obama excells at is caving in like the empty suit he is, when even a Leftie like Jackson Diehl sees it, you have a problem.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...d=opinionsbox1

[sek929]

Originally Posted by Macrobat 

Funny, that is decidedly NOT what the Left has been saying for 8 years. Double standard much?

Hate to break it to you, but saying you have been in 57 states, and have 3 left to visit is not "misspeaking," it's moronic.

Yet you have a conniption over how Bush pronounces nuclear.

LMFAO@U

So lemme get this straight.

You, for 8 years, have been absolutely stewing in your own juices at how unfair the left was towards Bush's public speaking ability. After all that time the ball is finally in your court and you decide to revert to the same techniques as the lefties?

That, my friends, is what's called childish behavior. Also, emulating the political group you supposedly are at ends with shows just how similar both sides end up acting.

Just so you know, shouting "but the other guys did it first" won't help. Maybe take the high road this time? Hah, what am I saying, political partisans don't know the meaning of the high road, just the lowest road possible.

[besson3c]

Originally Posted by Shaddim 

Well, he used to be annoying (and occasionally funny), now he's just boring and predictable.

You make it sound like I'm sort of clown here to amuse you, when the opposite is true: you guys are MY playthings! So start being funny, crazy, or interesting somehow.

Thanks!

[besson3c]

Originally Posted by Macrobat 

Funny, that is decidedly NOT what the Left has been saying for 8 years. Double standard much?

Hate to break it to you, but saying you have been in 57 states, and have 3 left to visit is not "misspeaking," it's moronic.

Yet you have a conniption over how Bush pronounces nuclear.

LMFAO@U

See, this is what I'm talking about! Would it kill you guys to be more like Macrobat here?

[besson3c]

Originally Posted by Chongo 

Human? Everyone knows he's the Messiah

How about you don't bring your frustrations of the idiots in everyday life into here? I've yet to see anybody here on MacNN claim or demonstrate any sort of belief that they think Obama is the Messiah - we all carry a sense of healthy skepticism.

[smacintush]

[smacintush]

[Shaddim]

Originally Posted by besson3c 

You make it sound like I'm sort of clown here to amuse you

You are! Dance for our pleasure, you odious little toad. /cracks whip

[besson3c]

*dances* please don't whip me master!

I like the kinky stuff...

[besson3c]

Here is Obama doing a tasteless impression of the Dalai Lama!

[ebuddy]

Originally Posted by besson3c 

You make it sound like I'm sort of clown here to amuse you, when the opposite is true: you guys are MY playthings! So start being funny, crazy, or interesting somehow.

Thanks!

Yes/No?

[besson3c]

Yes and no...

Yes because it's funny and you made me laugh, but this thread is supposed to include pictures of Obama screwing up. Your picture might work if he were at a funeral or some place where you aren't supposed to make a lot of noise.

[ebuddy]

Originally Posted by besson3c 

Yes and no...

Yes because it's funny and you made me laugh, but this thread is supposed to include pictures of Obama screwing up. Your picture might work if he were at a funeral or some place where you aren't supposed to make a lot of noise.

[turtle777]

Originally Posted by ebuddy 

Yes/No?

In before...





-t

[Chongo]

[Chongo]

Originally Posted by Chongo 

Human? Everyone knows he's the Messiah

Originally Posted by besson3c 

How about you don't bring your frustrations of the idiots in everyday life into here? I've yet to see anybody here on MacNN claim or demonstrate any sort of belief that they think Obama is the Messiah - we all carry a sense of healthy skepticism.

sorry, I keep forgeting the or the
You think he was from the way some in the media talk about him.


I believe that you and the others who post here do not believe he's the Messiah, just as I don't believe he's the Antichrist. AAMOF, when asked if he is the Antichrist, Hagee, the often derided Hal Lindsey, and others say no.

[Macrobat]

Originally Posted by sek929 

So lemme get this straight.

You, for 8 years, have been absolutely stewing in your own juices at how unfair the left was towards Bush's public speaking ability. After all that time the ball is finally in your court and you decide to revert to the same techniques as the lefties?

That, my friends, is what's called childish behavior. Also, emulating the political group you supposedly are at ends with shows just how similar both sides end up acting.

Just so you know, shouting "but the other guys did it first" won't help. Maybe take the high road this time? Hah, what am I saying, political partisans don't know the meaning of the high road, just the lowest road possible.

Isn't that alot like continually whining "we inherited this recession from Bush" even though he just increased the national debt to more than Washington's through Bush's COMBINED in less than 45 days?

[shifuimam]

Originally Posted by smacintush 

This totally made me lulz. A+.

I have feared since the primaries that Obama was going to steadily fall directly in Jimmy Carter's footsteps...my mom originally thought he wouldn't be that stupid, but it would appear that he hasn't learned anything from Carter's so-called legacy.

Originally Posted by Macrobat 

Isn't that alot like continually whining "we inherited this recession from Bush" even though he just increased the national debt to more than Washington's through Bush's COMBINED in less than 45 days?

Yes. The thing is, anyone from any political viewpoint is always going to have more disparaging remarks for the opposing side than his own. I don't know that there's anything inherently wrong with that.

What would be better is to look at the numbers and see the disparity between the number of times Obama's f-ups are plastered all over the media and the number of times Bush's were.

I don't buy this BS that Democrats get as crucified by mainstream media as Republicans. The Democrat party has had the media eating out of their hands for decades...not to mention that you have people like Besson who sit up on their high horses laughing about how Obama just doesn't mess up, and Bush was a colossal failure at life.

I just saw that 57 States video today, from this thread. Had that been a gaffe coming from Bush, it would have been everywhere within seconds.

[besson3c]

Haven't we gone over this shif?

It's not that Obama doesn't mess up, but the mess ups (i.e. gaffes) you guys try to pounce on really don't matter a whole lot, that's the point. Bush's didn't either, but he became the subject of teasing because of the fact that at his best his speaking came across as pretty mediocre, and he supplied these sorts of moments in great abundance. I have no idea how often Obama commits these sorts of gaffes compared to Bush, and I don't really care.

If you guys really want to take the ball and run with these sorts of gaffes, have at it. It's just very weak to try to make the connection to these mistakes and Obama's intellect. I've never said that Bush was dumb per say, just that he generally didn't come across as terribly articulate in his speech *on the whole* which seems to be a well established narrative.

The point of this thread is to have fun with the extent in which some people pounce on Obama's gaffes as if he committed some sort of high crime or something. Like I said, you guys are welcome to do whatever you want, it is just fairly weak in my opinion, albeit fun (as is this thread)

[besson3c]

Also, I'm a little confused as to how anybody here would think that any of us honestly think that Obama doesn't make mistakes? Maybe you've been listening to too much Rush or whomever has been sort of fueling the whole Messiah crap?

[shifuimam]

Originally Posted by besson3c 

Bush's didn't either, but he became the subject of teasing because of the fact that at his best his speaking came across as pretty mediocre, and he supplied these sorts of moments in great abundance.

I'm sorry, but what? How did Bush sound more mediocre than Obama? Is it because of his Texas accent? Obama does nothing but read off cue cards written by his press team. This doesn't make him a good speaker. It makes him a good robot.

Republicans are not behaving any differently with Obama than Democrats behaved with Bush or Sarah Palin. There is zero difference between pouncing on an Obama gaffe or a Bush gaffe.

And, your comment about Bush doing it more frequently is exactly my point - you say that because the media shoved Bush's mistakes in your face constantly. That is not going to happen with Obama, no matter how long he's in office. Obama is the effing poster child for a media darling. They will go out of their way, as long as he is in office, to continue pushing the messiah image his PR team has created for him.

I was merely pointing out that Republicans making fun of Obama is no worse than the eight years we had to endure of mocking and hatred for Bush coming from the liberal left. It's not weak to make fun of Obama, unless it was equally weak for you to make fun of Bush.

People pounced on Bush's speech mistakes, small blunders, etc as though he had committed some kind of high crime. How was that justifiable?

[besson3c]

Originally Posted by shifuimam 

I'm sorry, but what? How did Bush sound more mediocre than Obama? Is it because of his Texas accent? Obama does nothing but read off cue cards written by his press team. This doesn't make him a good speaker. It makes him a good robot.

I honestly don't understand how this notion has persisted with people such as yourself and the whole teleprompter squad. Prepared speeches are one form of communication, but there are so many other forms where cue cards/teleprompters don't apply: interviews, meetings, debates, etc.

We could break it down and debate each form, but the point I'd make is that overall Obama is better at articulating a clear vision, at providing concrete steps, at inspiring, at setting a cooperative tone (the extent of which this is genuine and/or successful is obviously debatable), etc. Read what the GE CEO said to get an idea what I'm talking about.

The whole useless-without-teleprompter mantra is too overly simplistic and flawed.

Republicans are not behaving any differently with Obama than Democrats behaved with Bush or Sarah Palin. There is zero difference between pouncing on an Obama gaffe or a Bush gaffe.

So why take your frustrations with the idiots among the general public into this forum? Many/most of us did not pounce on every minute little Bush gaffe, so who is this directed towards? It feels like you guys are just sort of emoting at us and expecting a purely emotionally driven argument to be considered valid.

And, your comment about Bush doing it more frequently is exactly my point - you say that because the media shoved Bush's mistakes in your face constantly. That is not going to happen with Obama, no matter how long he's in office. Obama is the effing poster child for a media darling. They will go out of their way, as long as he is in office, to continue pushing the messiah image his PR team has created for him.

If you feel this way, direct your point at the media, not at us...

I was merely pointing out that Republicans making fun of Obama is no worse than the eight years we had to endure of mocking and hatred for Bush coming from the liberal left. It's not weak to make fun of Obama, unless it was equally weak for you to make fun of Bush.

You are welcome to mock, I don't feel like this is something I have to "endure", because I don't give a ****. Maybe this is the problem? Too many people taking this mocking personally?

The point I've been making is that if you really want to mock Obama for not bowing properly to the queen or whatever, have at it, but this is pretty weak. It would be weak no matter who was the subject of mockery. As I say to people like stupendousman, your debating would be far more effective if you saved your ridicule for when it really matters. Otherwise, your audience just grows numb and sees through your ideological/partisan driven agenda.

People pounced on Bush's speech mistakes, small blunders, etc as though he had committed some kind of high crime. How was that justifiable?

Define "people"... Did any of us do this chronically?

[Dork.]

This thread has veered way off-topic. If I recall correctly, the original topic was Obama's epic pectoral muscles, that are sentient and need their own teleprompter.

[besson3c]

I bet that teleprompter is saying "look sexy" right now!

[SpaceMonkey]

Originally Posted by shifuimam 

I'm sorry, but what? How did Bush sound more mediocre than Obama? Is it because of his Texas accent? Obama does nothing but read off cue cards written by his press team. This doesn't make him a good speaker. It makes him a good robot.

Republicans are not behaving any differently with Obama than Democrats behaved with Bush or Sarah Palin. There is zero difference between pouncing on an Obama gaffe or a Bush gaffe.

And, your comment about Bush doing it more frequently is exactly my point - you say that because the media shoved Bush's mistakes in your face constantly. That is not going to happen with Obama, no matter how long he's in office. Obama is the effing poster child for a media darling. They will go out of their way, as long as he is in office, to continue pushing the messiah image his PR team has created for him.

I was merely pointing out that Republicans making fun of Obama is no worse than the eight years we had to endure of mocking and hatred for Bush coming from the liberal left. It's not weak to make fun of Obama, unless it was equally weak for you to make fun of Bush.

People pounced on Bush's speech mistakes, small blunders, etc as though he had committed some kind of high crime. How was that justifiable?

Frankly, I amused by the way that elements of the media-obsessed Right have pounced on Obama's "gaffes" (and justified it by comparison to the Left's coverage of Bush's gaffes) because it makes it clear that they do not understand what the Left was mocking in the first place. Bush was often mocked for mispronunciations, for "folksy" messages or idioms that seemed to undercut the seriousness of his mission, and for malapropisms. All of these sorts of mistakes seem to suggest that the speaker is not thinking about what he or she is saying. This is a compelling diagnosis from the Left's perspective, given its common caricature of Bush as a rather oblivious, ideological boy-king.

In contrast, the vast majority of Obama "gaffes" focus on the hesitancy of his speech when he's speaking off-prompter or in a Q&A format. There are obvious exceptions we can point, to, but most of the gaffe clips are like the one that Macrobat posted of Obama answering a British journalist's question in the joint press conference with Gordon Brown. Rather than suggesting that Obama is casual or oblivious in his speech, these clips show a man thinking about what he is saying, a rather natural and, from my perspective, reassuring trait in anyone who is being asked a serious question and is expected to give a serious answer.

[sek929]

Originally Posted by Macrobat 

Isn't that alot like continually whining "we inherited this recession from Bush" even though he just increased the national debt to more than Washington's through Bush's COMBINED in less than 45 days?

Who are you referring to here? I've done no such whining and have no commitment to any political party. Also, the notion that Obama somehow is to blame for our current situation is.....umm....interesting.

I pointed out how Republicans spent 8 years defending unfair attacks on Bush by the Democrats, and now do the EXACT SAME THING once the other dude is elected.

It's PATHETIC and shows just how stupid partisan politics is.

How about everyone chills the **** out, gets laid, goes outside for a walk and waits for the President to be in office long enough to effectively make statements about him that aren't fueled by ingrained hatred for 'that other party?'

Just like I waited until GWB started harping about WMDs and Iraq to mistrust and eventually loathe the man. I didn't start foaming at the mouth 40 days into his presidency, what would I have had to say anyways? His accent is silly?

Jesus...

[besson3c]

SpaceMonkey: I agree with you, but I'm afraid that people on the "other side" of this perpetual partisan football game would not agree that Obama is thoughtful in his speech as you've described because they disagree with his positions.

I frankly don't understand why somebody can't be simultaneously eloquent, well spoken, and wrong.

[Chongo]

Originally Posted by besson3c 

I bet that teleprompter is saying "look sexy" right now!

It says "get a manzier"

[ebuddy]

Originally Posted by besson3c 

SpaceMonkey: I agree with you, but I'm afraid that people on the "other side" of this perpetual partisan football game would not agree that Obama is thoughtful in his speech as you've described because they disagree with his positions.

I don't think folks are commenting on how thoughtful Obama is. After all, examples like thanking yourself because a teleprompter clearly says "Thank you President Obama" are decidedly thoughtless. It has become the picture of disappointment and will continue to be used in relation to issues for which there is disagreement and additional disappointment. Unmet expectations. There are many who haven't quite put the man on the intellectual plane you have and this is what I think bothers you most.

I frankly don't understand why somebody can't be simultaneously eloquent, well spoken, and wrong.

It's no different than assuming one who wasn't as eloquent and well spoken was wrong.