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Are there any?
It seems like if you want to be passionate about politics and become an ideologue you eventually are forced to mock, scorn, adopt passive aggressiveness, and any other forms of aggression. I look at Bill O'Reilly and I see a hateful aggressive douche, Keith Oibermann an egotistical douche, Rachel Maddow a sarcastic scornful person, Bill Kristol an aggressive prick, Coulter a very hateful person, Michael Moore a blowhard, etc. etc.
I really can't think of a talking head that is actually terribly likable and not consumed with some form of hate, intolerance, dogma, or some version of a personality that doesn't take themselves too seriously. Is this inevitable in becoming a prominent political voice, or at least highly passionate about this stuff?
You could say that these characters are this way because this is what sells, but is this leaking over into private life? I'm sure all of us know some sort of equivalent of one of those people - the kind of people who you just know to avoid these sorts of subjects with if you don't want things to turn ugly?
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Haters......the generalization of a type of person who has passion in disapproving of others BS?
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No wonder so many people hate you, BadKosh.
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"You develop an instant global consciousness, a people orientation, an intense dissatisfaction
with the state of the world, and a compulsion to do something about it. From out there on the
moon, international politics look so petty. You want to grab a politician by the scruff of the
neck and drag him a quarter of a million miles out and say, 'Look at that, you son of a bitch.'"
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Originally Posted by olePigeon 
No wonder so many people hate you, BadKosh.
ironic.
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What's more ironic is all of the shoulder chips surfacing in a thread about hateful ideologues.
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the glass is half full besson.
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Originally Posted by Snow-i
the glass is half full besson.
Depends on whether or not you filled it or emptied to 50%.
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"You develop an instant global consciousness, a people orientation, an intense dissatisfaction
with the state of the world, and a compulsion to do something about it. From out there on the
moon, international politics look so petty. You want to grab a politician by the scruff of the
neck and drag him a quarter of a million miles out and say, 'Look at that, you son of a bitch.'"
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Huckabee is probably the worst ideologue in America, but he'd be an awesome neighbor.
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Originally Posted by lpkmckenna
Huckabee is probably the worst ideologue in America, but he'd be an awesome neighbor.
That was my feeling about George Bush. He seemed like a great guy. Would be fun to go fishing or whatever. He seemed genuinely concerned with many of the issues at hand. He just made a terrible, terrible president.
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"You develop an instant global consciousness, a people orientation, an intense dissatisfaction
with the state of the world, and a compulsion to do something about it. From out there on the
moon, international politics look so petty. You want to grab a politician by the scruff of the
neck and drag him a quarter of a million miles out and say, 'Look at that, you son of a bitch.'"
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Originally Posted by besson3c
Are there any?
It seems like if you want to be passionate about politics and become an ideologue you eventually are forced to mock, scorn, adopt passive aggressiveness, and any other forms of aggression. I look at Bill O'Reilly and I see a hateful aggressive douche, Keith Oibermann an egotistical douche, Rachel Maddow a sarcastic scornful person, Bill Kristol an aggressive prick, Coulter a very hateful person, Michael Moore a blowhard, etc. etc.
While I partially agree with your assessment, I also think that the character trait of being an extreme extrovert is somewhat necessary for the kind of business those folks are in.
In other words: mother Theresa just wouldn't be an entertaining talk show host.
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Ok, you just keep the shallow label of "Hater" and wonder why people are tired of the liberal BS, PC nonsense, and 0bama. Hater is what I hear liberals calling anyone they haven't given any other labels to.
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Who are you talking to, BadKosh?
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Originally Posted by olePigeon
That was my feeling about George Bush. He seemed like a great guy. Would be fun to go fishing or whatever. He seemed genuinely concerned with many of the issues at hand. He just made a terrible, terrible president.
He's a lot like Obama, an idiot who can't seem to get anything accomplished, even with a stacked congress.
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