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Besson: Palin = Playgirl
'Nuff said.
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In Alaska any outfit that doesn't include a parka is a bit risqué.
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There are all sorts of excerpts from her book which I'm sure will make for interesting additional controversy and intrigue as well...
Palin just seems like one of those people that always seems to make matters worse for herself in an attempt to make things better.
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This deserves a thread of its own so that we can channel our outrage accordingly. Obama making people think that he is up on his technology admitting to never using Twitter? What a liar!!
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I wonder what Levi will do as a form of retaliation?
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Um, isn't it generally considered porn? Is that a controversial claim?
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Maybe Levi is actually writing one of those articles that Playgirl is known so well for.
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Um, isn't it generally considered porn? Is that a controversial claim?
Is Playboy/Playgirl porn or nude photography?
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Americans define Playboy and Playgirl as porno mags, besson. Is that really news to you? I don't know about your personal standards, having come from north of the border, but that's the American definition.
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Is Playboy/Playgirl porn or nude photography?
This question boils down to "Are the photos in Playboy and Playgirl meant to sexually titillate or to showcase the human form?" Anybody who has looked at the magazines ought to agree that it's generally the former. This isn't, like, Anne Geddes we're talking about here.
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Okay, porno or not, this just invites further retaliation... We shall see! It sure sounds far more sideshow attractiony to say that Levi left the daughter of Palin and is now doing porno 
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Okay, porno or not, this just invites further retaliation... We shall see! It sure sounds far more sideshow attractiony to say that Levi left the daughter of Palin and is now doing porno
Gay porno to boot.
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Playboy is the same as Wired (with a few heavily airbrushed naked chicks between the articles). Been a subscriber for 20 years and I've never felt uncomfortable with it sitting on my living room coffee table. Now, Penthouse, that's usually on the table in the game room, where most visitors never venture.
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Originally Posted by Shaddim
Playboy is the same as Wired (with a few heavily airbrushed naked chicks between the articles). Been a subscriber for 20 years and I've never felt uncomfortable with it sitting on my living room coffee table. Now, Penthouse, that's usually on the table in the game room, where most visitors never venture.
Playboy is "respectable" porn, definitely softcore, but still widely considered porn. This is in contrast to a hardcore mag like Penthouse. Personally, I'd be embarrassed to have Playboy on my living room table just because the quality is so shoddy these days. The pictures are so ham-handedly airbrushed that it's more fair to compare them to anime porn than actual nude photos.
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Originally Posted by besson3c
Huh?
Because you always get so excited about Palin. Like a 14 year old with a crush.
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Because you always get so excited about Palin. Like a 14 year old with a crush.
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Nothing compared to how excited you get over Obama. Just face it, you have a man crush on Barack Obama!
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Didn't Palin start out as a Beauty Pageant queen? I've seen photos of her parading around on stage in a bathing suit, asking people to judge her based on her sex appeal. Same basic idea, isn't it? Just drawing the line in a different place.
...and wait a minute... Levi is gonna be in playgirl? Like a full on Playgirl shoot? Swinging pipe or what?
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Originally Posted by Chuckit
Playboy is "respectable" porn, definitely softcore, but still widely considered porn.
I'd say maybe by people who would never look at any picture that involved other people with their clothes removed.
Other than that segment, I've never met anyone who considers the "Play" magazine to be porn.
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...and wait a minute... Levi is gonna be in playgirl? Like a full on Playgirl shoot? Swinging pipe or what?
Yep, full frontal gubernatorial baby daddy.
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Playboy is porn. I think so anyway.
When I was a child/tween, finding a Playboy was like finding the holy grail. I studied those magazines like they were some sort of long lost tome of the ancients. I think children today would laugh at a Playboy.
...when you can type one word into google and be bombarded with dozens of pictures of actual sex acts it definitely feels like we are living in a different era.
I didn't see my first porn movie until I was well into high school. I bet most 7 or 8 year olds today have seen scat porn with clown suits and goats.
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I bet most 7 or 8 year olds today have seen scat porn with clown suits and goats.
Besson, your sex tapes have leaked.
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goddammit ort888, those were for *private* sample only, not to broadcast to the universe!
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Who cares about what Palin thinks.
I'm still waiting for the Carrie Prejean porn.
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goddammit ort888, those were for *private* sample only, not to broadcast to the universe!
I didn't leak them. My 7 year old nephew posted them on Twitter.
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Besson, your sex tapes have leaked.
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Originally Posted by Chuckit
Playboy is "respectable" porn, definitely softcore, but still widely considered porn. This is in contrast to a hardcore mag like Penthouse. Personally, I'd be embarrassed to have Playboy on my living room table just because the quality is so shoddy these days. The pictures are so ham-handedly airbrushed that it's more fair to compare them to anime porn than actual nude photos.
Like I said, I don't care about the quality of the nudes.
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Sarah Palin - the greatest thing that's happened to the Democrats in decades.
Uh...why?
Because she called porn, porn?
Add this to long list of psuedo Palin criticisms that Democrats somehow think will make their unpopular and unsuccessful ideas become more palatable. Criticizing just for the sake of belittling those who you disagree with politically always backfires. Always.
Obama had less executive experience and thinks there are 57 states , Joe Biden can't talk without putting his foot in his mouth showing his stupidity, but both are smarter and better candidates than Palin?
HAHAHAH!!!
The fear is palpable....
Democrats shouldn't be worrying about who the Republicans are going to run in 2012. They should be worried about who their candidate is.
Obama IS the best thing that's happened to Republicans in years, and he's actually a guy at the top of a ticket that will be ran against. Until Palin runs for office again, she doesn't even compare in the least. If we are having a competition amongst the 'best things", your best thing loses big time.
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Joe Biden can't talk without putting his foot in his mouth showing his stupidity
And yet he still comes off as far more intelligent than Palin.
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Originally Posted by Chuckit
This question boils down to "Are the photos in Playboy and Playgirl meant to sexually titillate or to showcase the human form?" Anybody who has looked at the magazines ought to agree that it's generally the former. This isn't, like, Anne Geddes we're talking about here.
hi chuckit friends right?
anyways... ok what about ads, commercials, music videos etc?
and does that mean if i see something that titillates me, it's porn?
i'm playing republ... i mean devil's advocate
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ah but i forgot about palin.... god i love her... she is like drinking coke with pop rocks!
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Uh...why?
Because she called porn, porn?
No, because she's emblematic of the far right fringe in this country, which is trying valiantly to take over the party, and they're the dumbest people on the planet. Their anti-intellectualism, rooted in phenomenally deep insecurity, makes them the laughingstock that they deserve to be.
Add this to long list of psuedo Palin criticisms that Democrats somehow think will make their unpopular and unsuccessful ideas become more palatable. Criticizing just for the sake of belittling those who you disagree with politically always backfires. Always.
More people are in favor of single payer health insurance, and many more progressive ideals than you think.
Obama had less executive experience and thinks there are 57 states , Joe Biden can't talk without putting his foot in his mouth showing his stupidity, but both are smarter and better candidates than Palin?
By light years, yes!
HAHAHAH!!!
The fear is palpable....
On the side of Republicans who have some intelligence, as they watch their party being hijacked by stupidity.
Democrats shouldn't be worrying about who the Republicans are going to run in 2012. They should be worried about who their candidate is.
Obama IS the best thing that's happened to Republicans in years, and he's actually a guy at the top of a ticket that will be ran against. Until Palin runs for office again, she doesn't even compare in the least. If we are having a competition amongst the 'best things", your best thing loses big time.
Your opinion is duly noted, and is wrong. I'm not a big fan of Obama or Biden, but they come across as mental giants against the likes of Palin.
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And yet he still comes off as far more intelligent than Palin.
No, he doesn't. Joe Biden doesn't come off as more intelligent than anyone. Most likely, because he's not.
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No, because she's emblematic of the far right fringe in this country, which is trying valiantly to take over the party, and they're the dumbest people on the planet. Their anti-intellectualism, rooted in phenomenally deep insecurity, makes them the laughingstock that they deserve to be.
Blah, blah. blah...
I could insert any politician into your diatribe and switch out right and left and be just as equally persuasive.
More people are in favor of single payer health insurance, and many more progressive ideals than you think.
More on the left. More people don't want Obamacare than do. Most don't want what the regressives on the left are pushing. True, SOME do, but most don't.
By light years, yes!
On the side of Republicans who have some intelligence, as they watch their party being hijacked by stupidity.
As I pointed out, the Democrats have put poster boys for stupidity in the highest office. I think Obama's failures and low poll numbers bear this out. I don't think that Republicans with intelligence have much to fear.
Your opinion is duly noted, and is wrong. I'm not a big fan of Obama or Biden, but they come across as mental giants against the likes of Palin.
Based on what? Their lack of knowledge of the most basic facts regarding our country? Their inability to talk spontaneously without looking like fools? What exactly? The fact that you don't like what Palin says?
Really, I don't get it. I understand disagreeing with her, but the intelligence angle just isn't credible given who we are comparing her to. If she'd said something REALLY stupid like that she thought the US had 57 states, I'd MAYBE buy it but I've really not seen her say half the stupid things that Obama and Biden have said and they never had the burden of the majority of the press playing "gotcha" with them.
You've got a really skewed set of standards there.
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No, he doesn't. Joe Biden doesn't come off as more intelligent than anyone. Most likely, because he's not.
Right. I remember after Palin went and started doing TV interviews how everyone said, "Wow, what an intelligent, well-spoken person she is. This couldn't at all be described as pointless rambling interspersed with complete gibberish."
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Originally Posted by stupendousman
If she'd said something REALLY stupid like that she thought the US had 57 states
Judging by how you keep repeating this, it makes it seem like you actually believe Obama thinks there are 57 states, and that it wasn't just a slip of the tongue.
Which speaks really well to your ability to put forth a reasonable, even-keeled argument. You're by no means a worthless shill for the Republican party!
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Judging by how you keep repeating this, it makes it seem like you actually believe Obama thinks there are 57 states, and that it wasn't just a slip of the tongue.
How exactly does your tongue "slip" from 50 to 57? Answer: it doesn't.
At best, his brain was skipping, which seems to be the norm for him and his chosen VP. Especially when they don't have the luxury of telepromptors and prepared statements.
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Right. I remember after Palin went and started doing TV interviews how everyone said, "Wow, what an intelligent, well-spoken person she is.
Wow, I remember how after Biden and Obama where grilled with attempts at "gotcha" journalism right after they announced their candidacy, they performed non-rehearsed and edited TV interviews with grace and no flubs as well.
Obama and Biden are the train wreck Democrats and the media keep insisting is barreling down the track, but most everyone else has figured out never got on the track in the first place. Again, if they are counting on Sarah Palin to help them out, they are only compounding their future losses.
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Wow, I remember how after Biden and Obama where grilled with attempts at "gotcha" journalism right after they announced their candidacy, they performed non-rehearsed and edited TV interviews with grace and no flubs as well.
Dude, quit the grandstanding. Palin sucked royally in those interviews. This should be obvious to anybody with even a modicum of impartiality. I'm not saying you shouldn't support Palin because of that — I'm just saying, she was far worse than either Democrat. And nobody said Obama and BIden are always perfect, so attempts to argue against that notion are pointless.
And Katie Couric is not "gotcha" journalism.
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lets not forget pelosi and the 500 million americans that would lose their jobs without the stimulus.
(Hint: There are only 300-odd million amercians in existence).
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lets not forget pelosi and the 500 million americans that would lose their jobs without the stimulus.
She was only off by a factor of 1000. It could happen to anyone.
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She was only off by a factor of 1000. It could happen to anyone.
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Dude, quit the grandstanding. Palin sucked royally in those interviews.
I never said she was a shining example of how someone can best respond during that kind of interview.
Not getting things out as well as you hoped while being pummeled by fastballs the likes your opponent never has to face isn't the same as appearing stupid though. IMO, it's better to stumble over an answer you're not sure how to respond to (given that it's likely designed so there no "right" answer) than to confidently answer in a way that shows you are ignorant of things that should be basic knowledge or even respond in a way that's clearly racist. That's the burden Obama and Biden have to carry. While Palin isn't a perfect candidate by a long shot, Obama and Biden make her look like a Rhodes scholar.
This should be obvious to anybody with even a modicum of impartiality. I'm not saying you shouldn't support Palin because of that — I'm just saying, she was far worse than either Democrat.
What exactly did she say that trumped not knowing how many states in the country she wanted to represent there are? How many racist or simply buffoonish statements did she make like Joe Biden does whenever there's an open mike? Anyone with even a modicum of impartiality can see that while Palin might not have been the best example of someone in complete control of their interview abilities just a couple of days after being thrust into the national spotlight (in front of a left-wing media hungry for blood), Obama and Biden haven't really been any better examples given their clear ignorance of some of the basics and I don't think they had it near as tough as her.
And Katie Couric is not "gotcha" journalism.
I think that Bob Dole, Sara Palin and a host of other conservatives she's rabidly gone after will disagree with your assessment.
Katie Couric: Perky and Liberally Biased - (Couric Bias by Topic) -Â Media Research Center
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Okay, porno or not, this just invites further retaliation... We shall see! It sure sounds far more sideshow attractiony to say that Levi left the daughter of Palin and is now doing porno
Someone on the right or left will always be freaking out. We need a thread entitled:
Palin shoots Oprah
Then everyone can be amazed upon reading the thread that Palin really didn't shoot Oprah, like with a moose rifle.
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