[SpaceMonkey]

Originally Posted by Doofy

And how do you know you're not? The only people who can tell you either way are the people who're trying to sell you the stuff.

Please stay out of the looking-glass. I'm not the one making the argument that oil is a renewable resource, you are. There are some geologists who aren't employed the petroleum industry, by the way.

[Doofy]

Originally Posted by SpaceMonkey 

There are some geologists who aren't employed the petroleum industry, by the way.

And do you think that governments and the oil industry let those geologists anywhere near the oil fields?

[mattyb]

Hmmmmm.

[Warren Pease]

Originally Posted by mattyb 

Hmmmmm.

So that's good for 4 years, if it produces, and if the US is the sole consumer. The oil would be used up in less than a year at current global usage.

The answer to the question of whether there is more oil out there is: Yes. Are there oil fields that compare to the ones that provided the source for the oil boom over the past 100 years, and which are currently falling in production? Probably not.

[edit: since you didn't link to any specific information, this is the link I used: http://www.rigzone.com/news/article.asp?a_id=71941]

[SpaceMonkey]

Originally Posted by Doofy 

And do you think that governments and the oil industry let those geologists anywhere near the oil fields?

I don't know, do you know if they aren't? Going around in circles with you over hypothetical conspiracy scenarios is tiresome.

[SpaceMonkey]

Originally Posted by mattyb 

Hmmmmm.

Again, the question was about newly-created oil, not newly-discovered oil.

[mattyb]

Questions, so many questions. Its all too complicated to understand.

This guy has some theories.

[Warren Pease]

Originally Posted by mattyb 

Questions, so many questions. Its all too complicated to understand.

Thankfully, not everyone shares this view.

[andi*pandi]

When it's 70 degrees in November in Massachusetts and my house is covered with fricking moths, yes global warming matters.

[mattyb]

Originally Posted by andi*pandi 

When it's 70 degrees in November in Massachusetts and my house is covered with fricking moths, yes global warming matters.

I bet that its been 70 degrees in November in Massachusetts before.

Found this the other day :

The history of wine tracks the change of climate in Britain over the millennia, and consequent change in customs. Vine growing and wine making were introduced to the British Isles by the Romans who invaded in 43AD. The grape variety now known as Wrotham Pinot is directly descended from original Roman varieties. Wine made from these grapes is available from richardgrantwine.com In Roman Britain the weather was warmer than it is now, and by 1086 when the Domesday survey was carried out there were thirty nine vineyards officially recorded in England, although the actual figure may have been much higher. Temperatures began to drop in the second half of the sixteenth century causing a retreat of vine growing from the north and east of Europe.

Can't blame the US, China or cars for some warm weather then can we?

Complicated, oh so complicated.

[mattyb]

Originally Posted by Warren Pease 

Thankfully, not everyone shares this view.

Thankfully, there are people who frequent this forum who understand sarcasm.