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lpkmckenna · Dec 4, 2009, 12:42 AM

With plans to decorate the apartment for Xmas, I've thought about a windowsill nativity scene. I'm thinking a baby Jesus being visited by three wise men: a Muslim, a Jew, and a Buddhist. The wise men statues will be very obvious.

I'm wondering if my window will get a stone thrown thru it.

(Yes, I know the "wise men" were really "Magi," but no one really knows whether Matthew intended Magi as actual Persian priests, or astrologers, or magicians.)

Big Mac · Dec 4, 2009, 03:09 PM

How do you plan to depict each wise man?

OAW · Dec 4, 2009, 03:14 PM

Sounds like a great idea IMO. A good showing of unity in the spirit of the holiday season. As to whether or not your window will get a stone thrown thru it ... that all depends on your neighborhood.

OAW

Railroader · Dec 5, 2009, 09:49 AM

Real life trolling. This tells more about you than it would about any potential stone throwers.

turtle777 · Dec 5, 2009, 09:53 AM

Originally Posted by lpkmckenna

I'm wondering if my window will get a stone thrown thru it.

Sure, no problem.

What's your address ?

-t

el chupacabra · Dec 6, 2009, 10:16 PM

Originally Posted by lpkmckenna

I'm wondering if my window will get a stone thrown thru it.

Well you're looking for attention so you will probably get it in one form or another.

besson3c · Dec 6, 2009, 10:32 PM

Originally Posted by lpkmckenna

With plans to decorate the apartment for Xmas, I've thought about a windowsill nativity scene. I'm thinking a baby Jesus being visited by three wise men: a Muslim, a Jew, and a Buddhist. The wise men statues will be very obvious.

I'm wondering if my window will get a stone thrown thru it.

(Yes, I know the "wise men" were really "Magi," but no one really knows whether Matthew intended Magi as actual Persian priests, or astrologers, or magicians.)

I would suggest adding a fourth wise men, Ronald Reagan, and have him just hanging out with everybody...

Doofy · Dec 6, 2009, 10:59 PM

Originally Posted by lpkmckenna

With plans to decorate the apartment for Xmas, I've thought about a windowsill nativity scene. I'm thinking a baby Jesus being visited by three wise men: a Muslim, a Jew, and a Buddhist. The wise men statues will be very obvious.

Or, you could just send the money you were going to use to pay for that shizz to a famine relief charity.

imitchellg5 · Dec 7, 2009, 12:46 PM

Originally Posted by lpkmckenna

With plans to decorate the apartment for Xmas, I've thought about a windowsill nativity scene. I'm thinking a baby Jesus being visited by three wise men: a Muslim, a Jew, and a Buddhist. The wise men statues will be very obvious.

I'm wondering if my window will get a stone thrown thru it.

(Yes, I know the "wise men" were really "Magi," but no one really knows whether Matthew intended Magi as actual Persian priests, or astrologers, or magicians.)

What happened to them being shepherds?

Eug · Dec 7, 2009, 12:53 PM

Originally Posted by lpkmckenna

With plans to decorate the apartment for Xmas, I've thought about a windowsill nativity scene.

Heh. I read that as "windows ill".

turtle777 · Dec 7, 2009, 12:55 PM

Originally Posted by imitchellg5

What happened to them being shepherds?

Dude, seriously ?

[The Magi and the shepherds were two distinctly different groups. BOTH visited Jesus in the manger.]

-t

BlueSky · Dec 7, 2009, 01:06 PM

Kate Beckinsale visited Jesus in the manger. Don't forget Kate Friggin Beckinsale.

imitchellg5 · Dec 7, 2009, 01:18 PM

Originally Posted by turtle777

Dude, seriously ?

[The Magi and the shepherds were two distinctly different groups. BOTH visited Jesus in the manger.]

-t

Magi sounds like a bird, so I just assumed...

andi*pandi · Dec 7, 2009, 01:24 PM

what?

Chuckit · Dec 7, 2009, 01:36 PM

Thinking about this further: Are you really sure having a Muslim, a Jew and Buddhist supplicate themselves to Jesus is the message you want to send?

Eug · Dec 7, 2009, 01:50 PM

The Muslim is fine, as Jesus is an important prophet in Islam.

The Jew would probably want nothing to do with him.

And the Buddhist wouldn't likely be in the neighbourhood.

Big Mac · Dec 7, 2009, 01:54 PM

Originally Posted by Chuckit

Thinking about this further: Are you really sure having a Muslim, a Jew and Buddhist supplicate themselves to Jesus is the message you want to send?

Do you really think he possesses that level of religious sensitivity?

Chuckit · Dec 7, 2009, 01:58 PM

Originally Posted by Eug

The Muslim is fine, as Jesus is an important prophet in Islam.

The Jew would probably want nothing to do with him.

And the Buddhist wouldn't likely be in the neighbourhood.

A Muslim wouldn't likely be in the neighborhood either — at least not for several more centuries.

And I guess the Jew could be a relative. They'd probably care.

Eug · Dec 7, 2009, 02:00 PM

Originally Posted by Chuckit

A Muslim wouldn't likely be in the neighborhood either — at least not for several more centuries.

And I guess the Jew could be a relative. They'd probably care.

Heheh. Good points.

Big Mac · Dec 7, 2009, 02:05 PM

Originally Posted by Chuckit

A Muslim wouldn't likely be in the neighborhood either — at least not for several more centuries.

Yeah, 16 or 17 centuries at that.

imitchellg5 · Dec 7, 2009, 02:07 PM

People got really lost back then. Imagine having no satnav.

el chupacabra · Dec 7, 2009, 11:35 PM

Im curious as to what the whole point is...other than just boredom, since the whole thing just doesn't make any sense... and wanting to start fights with people of various religions. Or are you one of those people who believes "it will make people think"?

Railroader · Dec 8, 2009, 11:41 AM

Originally Posted by el chupacabra

Im curious as to what the whole point is...other than just boredom, since the whole thing just doesn't make any sense... and wanting to start fights with people of various religions. Or are you one of those people who believes "it will make people think"?

A; To be offensive.

Laminar · Dec 8, 2009, 11:49 AM

Originally Posted by imitchellg5

What happened to them being shepherds?

The Final Dakar · Dec 8, 2009, 11:50 AM

Just make them Larry, Moe, and Shemp and be done with it.

sek929 · Dec 8, 2009, 11:55 AM

Shemp? Might as well make it Curly Joe.

The Final Dakar · Dec 8, 2009, 11:57 AM

There we go: The Globetrotters visit Jesus.

andi*pandi · Dec 8, 2009, 01:06 PM

That would be an awesome tv special.

I am still wondering what sheperds have to do with birds.

The Final Dakar · Dec 8, 2009, 01:08 PM

Along the way they could solve a mystery. If they want ratings that mystery could be who the hell knocked mary up.

SpaceMonkey · Dec 8, 2009, 01:24 PM

Originally Posted by el chupacabra

Im curious as to what the whole point is...other than just boredom, since the whole thing just doesn't make any sense... and wanting to start fights with people of various religions. Or are you one of those people who believes "it will make people think"?

Have you forgotten the meaning of the Lounge?

besson3c · Dec 8, 2009, 01:26 PM

Originally Posted by The Final Dakar

Along the way they could solve a mystery. If they want ratings that mystery could be who the hell knocked mary up.

Would that be where Ronald Reagan comes in?

Demonhood · Dec 8, 2009, 02:44 PM

Originally Posted by The Final Dakar

Along the way they could solve a mystery. If they want ratings that mystery could be who the hell knocked mary up.

it was Old Man Jenkins dressed up as god the whole time!

i'm with andi, i'd watch that special. especially to see the mystery machine as an ancient caravan.

SpaceMonkey · Dec 8, 2009, 03:49 PM

Can we make Joseph an emo vampire? That would really help appeal to the tween market.

Laminar · Dec 8, 2009, 04:00 PM

Team Joseph or Team Herod?

SpaceMonkey · Dec 8, 2009, 04:18 PM

Originally Posted by Laminar

Team Joseph or Team Herod?

I had to Google that reference. Your knowledge of Twilight fandom alarms me.

olePigeon · Dec 8, 2009, 10:08 PM

You could put up a web cam and catch the people throwing stones, then charge them with hate crimes. It's a felony with up to 3 years in prison.

Also, it should be Brian, not Jesus. Praise be the cheese makers!

Laminar · Dec 9, 2009, 06:13 AM

Originally Posted by SpaceMonkey

I had to Google that reference. Your knowledge of Twilight fandom alarms me.

I keep up on popular ways to mock popular culture.

hyteckit · Dec 9, 2009, 02:44 PM

How about Tiger Woods and his 3 mistresses? With his wife holding a golf club?

lpkmckenna · Dec 9, 2009, 03:15 PM

Originally Posted by Railroader

Real life trolling. This tells more about you than it would about any potential stone throwers.

Originally Posted by Chuckit

Thinking about this further: Are you really sure having a Muslim, a Jew and Buddhist supplicate themselves to Jesus is the message you want to send?

Originally Posted by Big Mac

Do you really think he possesses that level of religious sensitivity?

Lots of strange assumptions about my motives. I just wanted to create an "inclusive" nativity scene. The Jew, Muslim, and Buddhist aren't there to worship Jesus, they're just bringing gifts.

I'm an atheist, but I love Xmas, and I love discussing and learning about religion. This creche was about me and my interests, not about trolling.

You've all shown me that I shouldn't do this, that it will get misinterpreted, and that I probably will get a rock thru my windows. Thanks!

BTW, there were Buddhist missionaries in the Mediterranean region in the first century, and many Jews do see Jesus as a respectable moral teacher. I don't think there's anything blasphemous about this creche, but obviously a lot of hypersensitive people here do.

lpkmckenna · Dec 9, 2009, 03:18 PM

Originally Posted by Big Mac

Yeah, 16 or 17 centuries at that.

You have problems with math.

Chuckit · Dec 9, 2009, 03:30 PM

Originally Posted by lpkmckenna

Lots of strange assumptions about my motives. I just wanted to create an "inclusive" nativity scene.

I got that. That's why I started out with "Thinking about this further..."

Originally Posted by lpkmckenna

The Jew, Muslim, and Buddhist aren't there to worship Jesus, they're just bringing gifts.

Yeah, but the magi's role in the actual story is that they were coming to see and pay tribute to the Son of God. That's all I was getting at.

Originally Posted by lpkmckenna

I'm an atheist, but I love Xmas, and I love discussing and learning about religion.

Me too.

Railroader · Dec 9, 2009, 08:04 PM

Originally Posted by lpkmckenna

Lots of strange assumptions about my motives. I just wanted to create an "inclusive" nativity scene. The Jew, Muslim, and Buddhist aren't there to worship Jesus, they're just bringing gifts.

I'm an atheist, but I love Xmas, and I love discussing and learning about religion. This creche was about me and my interests, not about trolling.

You've all shown me that I shouldn't do this, that it will get misinterpreted, and that I probably will get a rock thru my windows. Thanks!

BTW, there were Buddhist missionaries in the Mediterranean region in the first century, and many Jews do see Jesus as a respectable moral teacher. I don't think there's anything blasphemous about this creche, but obviously a lot of hypersensitive people here do.

Admit it, you're just trying to stir people up. No possible misinterpretation. There's no other reason to put such an inaccurate creche up. You're not being "inclusive", or else you include other religions. The muslim is especially disingenuous. You might as well include a festivus pole and L. Ron hubbard. Don't forget some MJ leaves for Rastafarianism.

I doubt you'd get a rock through your window, but you would get your neighbors becoming more informed about your nature and your mocking treatment of their beliefs. Again, this tells more about you than any speculative imagined rock thrower.

hyteckit · Dec 9, 2009, 08:08 PM

Sexy Nativity scene.

Sexy Nativity Scene Draws Criticism

Chuckit · Dec 9, 2009, 08:09 PM

Originally Posted by Railroader

Admit it, you're just trying to stir people up. No possible misinterpretation. There's no other reason to put such an inaccurate creche up. You're not being "inclusive", or else you include other religions.

I don't see why he would "include other religions." That seems like a very impressive bit of mind-reading on your part. He's got all the major religions of the West covered, so why would he include others? The only other traditional world religion is Hinduism, and that's really uncommon in many places.

LegendaryPinkOx · Dec 9, 2009, 09:18 PM

Originally Posted by hyteckit

Sexy Nativity scene.

Sexy Nativity Scene Draws Criticism

That isn't very sexy at all. In fact, I'm outraged at how much clothing there is yet it still being labeled as "scantily clad."

lpkmckenna · Dec 10, 2009, 08:15 AM

Originally Posted by Railroader

Admit it, you're just trying to stir people up. No possible misinterpretation. There's no other reason to put such an inaccurate creche up. You're not being "inclusive", or else you include other religions. The muslim is especially disingenuous. You might as well include a festivus pole and L. Ron hubbard. Don't forget some MJ leaves for Rastafarianism.

I doubt you'd get a rock through your window, but you would get your neighbors becoming more informed about your nature and your mocking treatment of their beliefs. Again, this tells more about you than any speculative imagined rock thrower.

The story has three magi, so I'm limited to 3 religions. And I don't understand why the muslim is "more disingenuous." Care to explain that?

The Final Dakar · Dec 10, 2009, 10:12 AM

C'mon Railroader. You come back and this is the only thread you think is worth posting in? Why bother returning at all.

Anyway, the muslim makes sense as its one of the three Abrahamic religions, however the **** thats spelled.

Railroader · Dec 10, 2009, 10:38 AM

Originally Posted by lpkmckenna

The story has three magi, so I'm limited to 3 religions. And I don't understand why the muslim is "more disingenuous." Care to explain that?

You should at least limit yourself to religions that existed at the time. Adding a Muslim is offensive to Muslims.

Railroader · Dec 10, 2009, 10:42 AM

Originally Posted by The Final Dakar

C'mon Railroader. You come back and this is the only thread you think is worth posting in? Why bother returning at all.

I posted in other threads as well.

Originally Posted by The Final Dakar

Anyway, the muslim makes sense as its one of the three Abrahamic religions, however the **** thats spelled.

THAT is about the only valid point. Though a 600 year time lapse from the birth of Jesus and the first Muslim makes it a very provocative creche and says more about the creator and not the observers.

SpaceMonkey · Dec 10, 2009, 10:46 AM

Originally Posted by Railroader

Though a 600 year time lapse from the birth of Jesus and the first Muslim makes it a very provocative creche and says more about the creator and not the observers.

This is true of virtually any personal religious display, whether deemed provocative or not.