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No wonder Michigan and other State are toast
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Dec 26, 2009, 01:38 PM
 
WTF ?

Michigan Forces Business Owners Into Public Sector Unions

After hemorrhaging members for decades, labor unions have hit upon a new way to shore up their annual dues revenue.

Ms. Berry owns her own business—yet the Michigan Department of Human Services claims she is a government employee and union member. The agency thus withholds union dues from the child-care subsidies it sends to her on behalf of her low-income clients. Those dues are funneled to a public-employee union that claims to represent her. The situation is crazy—and it's happening elsewhere in the country.
Michigan Forces Business Owners Into Public Sector Unions - WSJ.com

Oh the wondrous world of democratic government rule.
Read the article, essentially what happens is this:

The government funnels tax payer money into unions.

This is so ****ed up, I'm beyond words.

F*ck the unions, and their democratic enablers, I wish they would all roll over and die.

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Dec 26, 2009, 02:05 PM
 
Where's your outrage for the child-care subsidies she's getting on behalf of her clients? It sounds like she's still net-positive from the various government re-distributions of wealth. In light of that, it seems like you should be grateful to the unions for reducing her benefits.
     
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Dec 26, 2009, 02:27 PM
 
Originally Posted by Uncle Skeleton View Post
Where's your outrage for the child-care subsidies she's getting on behalf of her clients? It sounds like she's still net-positive from the various government re-distributions of wealth. In light of that, it seems like you should be grateful to the unions for reducing her benefits.
Say what ?

I have no problems with my tax dollars (in form of subsidies) to go to low income earners so that they can afford child care, in order to be able to work and make a living.

I have absolutely no effing respect for politicians funneling that money into union fat cat coffers.

Don't you see the difference ?

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Dec 26, 2009, 03:05 PM
 
The idea to unionize in this way was hatched in California, though ironically Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger has vetoed legislation to unionize child-care providers.
I was gonna say- smells like something dreamed up by the crooks here in California. Yep.

Take heed other 49 states: the crooks in Sacramento aren't as dumb as they seem. The plan is simple: they know their rotten ideas have bankrupted the state and continue to chase business elsewhere, so simply export the same rotten ideas to other states, then all the businesses will eventually have nowhere to run, and all the state level crooks in cahoots with the fed can really turn the screws.

Wake up, before your state too turns into a mini-third world, tinhorn dictatorship.
     
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Dec 26, 2009, 03:51 PM
 
Originally Posted by CRASH HARDDRIVE View Post
Wake up, before your state too turns into a mini-third world.
Too late for Michigan. Their economy is broken, probably beyond repair.

That the politicians continue to kill businesses like they always did just shows that they don't care. Get out of that rotten state as long as you can.

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Dec 26, 2009, 04:02 PM
 
What states are enlightened enough to not do this stuff?
     
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Dec 26, 2009, 04:11 PM
 
"Live free or Die."
     
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Dec 26, 2009, 08:58 PM
 
Michigan has lived on the auto industry for a very long time. Not that there aren't other industries there (even after the beef/milk industry got borked back in the early '70s), just that the UAW had the loudest voice and the deepest pockets. So Lansing listened attentively, and managed to base much of how the state runs on how the auto industry's workers wanted it.

Turns out, they weren't actually calling the shots, but rather some suits in the union were. Hmmmm. In any case, having grown up there (where Mustangs are born, to be exact), I now live in Texas. There are many things about Texas that I'd like to change, starting with the state government being 180º away from Michigan's and being "all about" business, but at least I don't have some suit )that has to work very hard to establish that he's not at all related to any union that was actually convicted of racketeering) telling me what I need.

Also, while the UAW has been a driving force in directing state policy, a number of other unions there have been quietly pressing for improved worker safety, better regulatory compliance (to ensure the company is always there to pay workers), and actual partnership with management. But they don't build cars, so Lansing doesn't actually notice them. Bad idea.
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Dec 26, 2009, 09:18 PM
 
Originally Posted by BLAZE_MkIV View Post
"Live free or Die."
Burial or cremation then?
Been inclined to wander... off the beaten track.
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Dec 26, 2009, 09:51 PM
 
Its on our licensee plates.

No state income, sales, or property taxes. No slush fund makes it hard to have pet projects.
     
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Dec 26, 2009, 11:25 PM
 
Originally Posted by BLAZE_MkIV View Post
Its on our licensee plates.
And it's a lie.

Originally Posted by BLAZE_MkIV View Post
No state income, sales, or property taxes.
Wake me up when you get rid of the federal CFC and QI laws.
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