 |
 |
Bill to ban salt in NY restaurants?
|
|
|
|
|
Mac Elite
Join Date: Aug 2007
Status:
Offline
|
|
Last week, New York state assemblyman Felix Ortiz (D-Brooklyn) introduced a bill to ban the use of all salt in restaurant cooking and impose a fine of up to $1,000 on violators. Like all legislators who introduce absolutely insane legislation, he says he is trying to "make sure that we bring awareness."
Ortiz is right when he says that the bill doesn't prevent customers from adding salt after the fact. But any serious cook will tell you that sprinkling on salt at the end of the process isn't the same as using it in cooking. Pasta water must be salted, for instance, to flavor the noodles themselves. Salting onions at the right moment is key to successfully caramelizing them. Salting eggplant before cooking reduces bitterness in the final dish. And then there's brining and pickling, not to mention the vital importance of salt in the science of baking.
Kind of over the edge? Think It'll pass? What should he be doing instead? Something productive?
|
|
|
| |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Posting Junkie
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: Washington DC
Status:
Offline
|
|
I predict it passes and then suddenly a whole hell of a lot of restaurants spring up in New Jersey.
|
|
|
| |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Professional Poster
Join Date: May 2001
Status:
Offline
|
|
This legislation is utter foolishness.  It certainly won't pass and I'm sure Mr. Ortiz knows this. He is right in that the approach he took does raise awareness of salt intake and its relationship to hypertension, etc. A lot more than if he had simply promoted a charity or something.
OAW
|
|
|
| |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Dedicated MacNNer
Join Date: May 2008
Status:
Offline
|
|
Originally Posted by OAW 
This legislation is utter foolishness. It certainly won't pass and I'm sure Mr. Ortiz knows this. He is right in that the approach he took does raise awareness of salt intake and its relationship to hypertension, etc. A lot more than if he had simply promoted a charity or something.
OAW
Holy hell. If people don't know by now that loading up on the salt just might kill them, there is no law in the land that will "awaken" them to that fact.
They need to stop putting (D) or (R) behind some of these people and just put (AMR) "Another Moron Representative"
|
cause we're not quite "the fuzz"
|
| |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Clinically Insane
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: planning a comeback !
Status:
Online
|
|
F*cking politicians. All of them.
When will they stop micromanaging our lives ?
-t
|
|
|
| |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Addicted to MacNN
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: Across from the wallpaper store.
Status:
Offline
|
|
Originally Posted by turtle777
F*cking politicians. All of them.
When will they stop micromanaging our lives ?
-t
When brain dead morons stop electing people like this douche.
There are a LOT of people like to have the government take care of them, and protect them from eeeeevil or irresponsible businessmen who would do them either deliberate or inadvertent harm. It saves them the trouble of thinking for themselves.
|
|
"Altruism is killing America. We who want to save America must repudiate this killer, root and branch. We must understand and explain to others that the acceptance of altruism necessitates the violation of individual rights... and that the arguments for altruism are baseless..."
|
| |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Addicted to MacNN
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: Across from the wallpaper store.
Status:
Offline
|
|
Originally Posted by OAW
He is right in that the approach he took does raise awareness of salt intake and its relationship to hypertension, etc.
No it doesn't, it makes reasonable people roll their eyes in disgust.
You show me a person who honestly changed their behavior due to a proposed food ban and I'll show you someone who should have taken a dirt nap years ago.
|
|
"Altruism is killing America. We who want to save America must repudiate this killer, root and branch. We must understand and explain to others that the acceptance of altruism necessitates the violation of individual rights... and that the arguments for altruism are baseless..."
|
| |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Addicted to MacNN
Join Date: May 2001
Status:
Offline
|
|
Salt? WTF?
Who eats salt anyway? Salt is only good for casting out demons.
What's next? Licking coal?
Stick with real stuff like MSG. I eat everything with MSG.
|
|
Bush Tax Cuts == Job Killer
June 2001: 132,047,000 employed
June 2003: 129,839,000 employed
2.21 million jobs were LOST after 2 years of Bush Tax Cuts.
|
| |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Mac Elite
Join Date: Aug 2007
Status:
Offline
|
|
|
|
|
|
| |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Professional Poster
Join Date: May 2001
Status:
Offline
|
|
Originally Posted by smacintush
No it doesn't, it makes reasonable people roll their eyes in disgust.
You show me a person who honestly changed their behavior due to a proposed food ban and I'll show you someone who should have taken a dirt nap years ago.
I think you misunderstand what I said. I never said it was going to change anyone's behavior. All I'm saying is that the issue of salt intake got a lot more publicity than it would have if he had simply promoted a charity. The fact that the legislation he proposed was so ridiculous is what did that of course. The cause he is advocating was just along for the ride.
OAW
|
|
|
| |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Moderator  Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: We come from the land of the ice and snow...
Status:
Offline
|
|
Completely foolish and a waste of government resources. "Promoting awareness" like the Oreo Cookie ban. Sheesh.
|
|
|
| |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Clinically Insane
Join Date: Dec 1999
Status:
Offline
|
|
This is like banning soda pop in schools and replacing them with fruit juice and sports drinks that have even more sugar and sodium.
Bunch of idiots.
|
|
"…I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than
you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods,
you will understand why I dismiss yours." - Stephen F. Roberts
|
| |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Mac Elite
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Southern, NJ (near Philly YO!)
Status:
Offline
|
|
How about just telling the customer they can 'request' no salt be added when their food is cooked? Nah then the customer will get what they want...what was I thinking?!?!?
|
|
MacBook Pro 15" i7 ~ Snow Leopard ~ iPhone 4 - 16Gb
|
| |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Clinically Insane
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Los Angeles
Status:
Offline
|
|
I now have a bit more respect for that crappy Simpsons episode in which Springfield bans sugar.
|
"The natural progress of things is for liberty to yield and government to gain ground." TJ
|
| |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Moderator Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Copenhagen
Status:
Offline
|
|
Bill ought to leave those poor restaurants alone.
|
|
|
| |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Clinically Insane
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: planning a comeback !
Status:
Online
|
|
Originally Posted by stevesnj
How about just telling the customer they can 'request' no salt be added when their food is cooked? Nah then the customer will get what they want...what was I thinking?!?!?
How about you just cook your own darn food, if you don't like how the restaurants do it.
Why need no fcuking "baby-sitting the consumer" laws and regulation.
-t
|
|
|
| |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Clinically Insane
Join Date: Dec 1999
Status:
Offline
|
|
I thought that requiring the restaurants to display "Nutrition Facts" for customers was a good idea. That should've been enough.
|
|
"…I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than
you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods,
you will understand why I dismiss yours." - Stephen F. Roberts
|
| |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Moderator Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Copenhagen
Status:
Offline
|
|
Originally Posted by turtle777
How about you just cook your own darn food, if you don't like how the restaurants do it.
Eh? Where’d he say he didn’t like it? More the opposite.
Why need no fcuking "baby-sitting the consumer" laws and regulation.
Are you actually asking why you’d NOT need baby-sitting laws like this? Or was “why” meant to be “we”, and the sentence a statement?
’Cause if so, you seem to be in total agreement with stevesnj.
|
|
|
| |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Posting Junkie
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: Washington DC
Status:
Offline
|
|
Originally Posted by olePigeon
I thought that requiring the restaurants to display "Nutrition Facts" for customers was a good idea. That should've been enough.
I don't know about requiring it, but I think this is a really good idea. I would be very happy to have this information at my fingertips when perusing a menu.
|
|
|
| |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Forum Regular
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Seattle
Status:
Offline
|
|
Originally Posted by nonhuman
I don't know about requiring it, but I think this is a really good idea. I would be very happy to have this information at my fingertips when perusing a menu.
It's actually really handy; we have that same law here in Seattle (or is it all of Washington state?).
|
|
Trust me. I'm a Taco.
|
| |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Posting Junkie
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: Washington DC
Status:
Offline
|
|
Originally Posted by DrTacoMD
It's actually really handy; we have that same law here in Seattle (or is it all of Washington state?).
Really? When did that happen? I was last in Seattle in September for Bumbershoot, but don't remember seeing that.
|
|
|
| |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Forum Regular
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Seattle
Status:
Offline
|
|
Originally Posted by nonhuman
Really? When did that happen? I was last in Seattle in September for Bumbershoot, but don't remember seeing that.
Hmm, you must have just missed it -- it's been true for the entire time I've lived up here, which brings it back to at least May 2008. Then again, a lot of smaller joints don't bother posting information, and enforcement seems pretty lax. But go into any chain restaurant or fast food place and the calorie counts are screaming at you.
EDIT: Ah, and that's why. Google says the law only applies to chain restaurants with at least 15-20 establishments nationwide. I can't find the law itself, so I'm getting that number from other sources (and the exact number varies by source).
|
|
Trust me. I'm a Taco.
|
| |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Clinically Insane
Join Date: Dec 1999
Status:
Offline
|
|
We have the same law in California.
|
|
"…I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than
you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods,
you will understand why I dismiss yours." - Stephen F. Roberts
|
| |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Posting Junkie
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: Washington DC
Status:
Offline
|
|
Originally Posted by DrTacoMD
Hmm, you must have just missed it -- it's been true for the entire time I've lived up here, which brings it back to at least May 2008. Then again, a lot of smaller joints don't bother posting information, and enforcement seems pretty lax. But go into any chain restaurant or fast food place and the calorie counts are screaming at you.
EDIT: Ah, and that's why. Google says the law only applies to chain restaurants with at least 15-20 establishments nationwide. I can't find the law itself, so I'm getting that number from other sources (and the exact number varies by source).
Ah, that must be it then. Definitely didn't hit any chains while we were there!
|
|
|
| |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
 
|
|
|
Forum Rules
|
|
|
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
|
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Top
