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Immigrant farm workers' challenge: Take our jobs
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Jun 25, 2010, 01:28 PM
 
Immigrant farm workers' challenge: Take our jobs!

"The reality is farmworkers who are here today aren't taking any American jobs away. They work in often unbearable situations," Rodriguez said. "I don't think there will be many takers, but the offer is being made. Let's see what happens."
There certainly should be better labour laws for farm workers, though farmers will oppose it. But even if temporary farm labor became a better opportunity, it isn't likely to attract many Americans; you would do better working at McDonalds.

Of course, I'll now get labelled as anti-American and pro-slavery.
     
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Jun 29, 2010, 09:33 PM
 
This article really pissed me off when I first read it. It's amazing how perceptions in our society have changed over the years. "Only illegals from central america will do farm labor" seems to be the prevailing perception. I imagine it's because the majority of the modern population are city dwellers who have been indoctrinated since a young age with the snobbery that only mexicans pick fruit or do manual labor; and that we should all aspire to do something more than that... like get a position sitting in an office doing paper work as an: engineer, lawyer, secretary, administrative assistant, graphics artist, insurance scam artist, or bureaucrat.

And of course the city people have the largest voice. But in my young day, and town I was a farm worker and I remember it being extremely competitive. It probably would be today if certain people would stop teaching kids that only illegals and classless, unintelligent people who failed at their life's dreams do manual labor.

I cant imagine anyone would actually respond to the people that sign up for that site, it's just there to make a statement. I recommend people watch the movie Food Inc. for a little extra insight into our mafia government's relationship with illegal labor.
     
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Jun 30, 2010, 12:09 AM
 
Right off the bat there's multiple strawmen in the opening quote.

"Farmworkers here today aren't taking American jobs." But of course, illegal aliens aren't -by far- only farmworkers. The American jobs they take- and dumb down the wages of- are many: construction, childcare, delivery, food services, landscaping, janitorial, manufacturing, meat packing, agriculture, etc.etc. etc...

"They work in unbearable situations." So DON'T COME HERE to work in unbearable situations. The willingness of people here illegally -and therefore in a precarious position that allows employers great leeway to exploit them for profit- is what helps create and perpetuate unbearable conditions in the first place.

80% of US farmworkers are *gasp* US citizens or legal aliens. Only 20% are illegals. So the so-called 'challenge' is a big FAIL by default. US citizens are already doing the majority of US jobs, including farmwork. Gee, there's a shocker!

I also have to wonder where this silly idea ever came from that only illegals do any hard work in the US, and therefore we must all bend over and let people with an agenda flood the country with the third world,and then grant blanket amnesty (so of course, I guess the 'logic' is supposed to follow- they'll continue to do all the hard work.)

Do these spoiled (+ ignorant, or just plain stupid?) people ever fly over the country, happen to look out the window, and *really* imagine to themselves that all those COUNTLESS fields and farms down there in the heartland are all being worked by illegal Mexicans, or sitting idle if they aren't? No American is a farmer anymore. No one remembers how to plant things and pull anything out of the ground, off a vine, or out of a tree. All those farms are just waiting desperately for floods of exploited workers to pour into them, if only we can invite them in fast enough.

Since 80% of the farming jobs are being done by US labor: how exactly does it follow that an illegal alien can't possibly take a US citizen's job? Oh that's right, we're all supposed to believe all those farmers and US farm workers are doing something that should be BENEATH them, and therefore done by -YES-, a field full of slaves. If you don't think so, you're obviously a racist.
     
   
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