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Jul 1, 2014, 01:25 PM
 
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Elliot Rodger.
That was from Afluenuza.
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All are sins against the sixth commandment.
Are they equal? Simple yes or no. I'm not demanding much, considering I watched your 40 minute video.
     
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I find it notable the term "grave depravity" appears to come up exactly once in the CCC.

Hint: it's not for adultery.
     
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In Inferno, where do the sodomites get put versus the adulterers?

Pretty sure one of them is on the lowest ring in the basement, the other isn't.

Was that Dante's iconoclastic opinion, totally counter to what his contemporaries imagined as a ranking of sin?
     
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Jul 7, 2014, 10:07 AM
 
More lib-talk from the Pope

Pope calls exploitation of environment a sin of our time - chicagotribune.com
Pope Francis called for more respect for nature on Saturday, branding the destruction of South America's rain forests and other forms of environmental exploitation a sin of modern times.
"This is one of the greatest challenges of our time: to convert ourselves to a type of development that knows how to respect creation," he told students, struggling farmers, and laid-off workers in a university hall.
     
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Jul 7, 2014, 10:49 AM
 
CCC #339
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339 Each creature possesses its own particular goodness and perfection. For each one of the works of the "six days" it is said: "And God saw that it was good." "By the very nature of creation, material being is endowed with its own stability, truth and excellence, its own order and laws." Each of the various creatures, willed in its own being, reflects in its own way a ray of God's infinite wisdom and goodness. Man must therefore respect the particular goodness of every creature, to avoid any disordered use of things which would be in contempt of the Creator and would bring disastrous consequences for human beings and their environment.
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Respect the particular goodness, while at the same time we are to "fill the earth and subdue it. Rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky and over every living creature that moves on the ground."
     
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Oct 21, 2014, 12:04 PM
 
Some people breathe a sigh of relief…
The final version, released on Saturday, was substantially different from a draft version released five days earlier on Oct. 13. The earlier release, posted online in English by the Vatican, stated:

Homosexuals have gifts and qualities to offer to the Christian community. Are we capable of providing for these people, guaranteeing […] them […] a place of fellowship in our communities? Oftentimes, they want to encounter a Church which offers them a welcoming home. Are our communities capable of this, accepting and valuing their sexual orientation, without compromising Catholic doctrine on the family and matrimony?

The final version, translated from Italian by the BBC, dialed those comments back:

The Church teaches: “No grounds whatsoever exist for assimilating or drawing analogies, however remote, between homosexual unions and God’s design for matrimony and the family.” Nevertheless, men and women with homosexual tendencies should be accepted with respect and sensitivity. “Any sign of unjust discrimination in their regard is to be avoided.”
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Oct 21, 2014, 01:06 PM
 
the Catholic religion is a religion of men and does include women on any level. As long as they are going to ignore that men and women are equal, that priests cannot married, that women are not able to take contraceptives, that they will make gays as sinners, that women cannot become priests, bishops and cardinals, their churches will get emptier and emptier. As for myself I am looking into getting out officially of that Church. I do not agree with kids being raped by priests, and women being penalized for getting pregnant outside marriage.
     
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Oct 21, 2014, 02:39 PM
 
Jesus founded the Catholic Church (see Matthew 16:17)

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the Catholic religion is a religion of men and does include women on any level. As long as they are going to ignore that men and women are equal, that priests cannot married, that women are not able to take contraceptives, that they will make gays as sinners, that women cannot become priests, bishops and cardinals, their churches will get emptier and emptier. As for myself I am looking into getting out officially of that Church. I do not agree with kids being raped by priests, and women being penalized for getting pregnant outside marriage.
Ever hear of Mother Theresa, Mother Angelica, St. Catherine of Sienna, St, Therese of Lisuex, Saint Monica (mother of of Saint Agustine), the list goes on of powerful women of the Catholic Church(including the greatest saint of all, The Blessed Mother Mary).

Jesus teaches that ALL sex outside of a sacrmental marriage is a sin. (see Mark 10) The Catechism states that all single people are called to chaistity.
The full section of the Carechism cited above.

2357 Homosexuality refers to relations between men or between women who experience an exclusive or predominant sexual attraction toward persons of the same sex. It has taken a great variety of forms through the centuries and in different cultures. Its psychological genesis remains largely unexplained. Basing itself on Sacred Scripture, which presents homosexual acts as acts of grave depravity,141 tradition has always declared that "homosexual acts are intrinsically disordered."142 They are contrary to the natural law. They close the sexual act to the gift of life. They do not proceed from a genuine affective and sexual complementarity. Under no circumstances can they be approved.

2358 The number of men and women who have deep-seated homosexual tendencies is not negligible. This inclination, which is objectively disordered, constitutes for most of them a trial. They must be accepted with respect, compassion, and sensitivity. Every sign of unjust discrimination in their regard should be avoided. These persons are called to fulfill God's will in their lives and, if they are Christians, to unite to the sacrifice of the Lord's Cross the difficulties they may encounter from their condition.

2359 Homosexual persons are called to chastity. By the virtues of self-mastery that teach them inner freedom, at times by the support of disinterested friendship, by prayer and sacramental grace, they can and should gradually and resolutely approach Christian perfection.
Any Priest found to have had violated a child needs to be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. Unfortunatly that always did not happen in the past. What's of real concern is that far more children are being abused by teachers, and superintendents are more guilty of covering this up then the Bishops.

AP: 2,500 teachers punished in 5 years for sexual misconduct | Content | Seattle News, Weather, Sports, Breaking News | KOMO News
From the US Dept. of Ed.
https://www2.ed.gov/rschstat/researc...iew/report.pdf
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Oct 21, 2014, 09:07 PM
 
Originally Posted by Chongo View Post
Jesus found the Catholic Church (see Matthew 16:17)
Where was it hiding?
     
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Oct 21, 2014, 09:13 PM
 
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Where was it hiding?
Sorry, founded
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Oct 21, 2014, 10:00 PM
 
^^^^'

That's what you said the first time. Guess you didn't catch the joke.

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Oct 28, 2014, 01:22 PM
 
A reminder why a lot of americans don't care for catholics
Pope Francis declares evolution and Big Bang theory are right and God isn't 'a magician with a magic wand' - Europe - World - The Independent
The theories of evolution and the Big Bang are real and God is not “a magician with a magic wand”, Pope Francis has declared.

Speaking at the Pontifical Academy of Sciences, the Pope made comments which experts said put an end to the “pseudo theories” of creationism and intelligent design that some argue were encouraged by his predecessor, Benedict XVI.

Francis explained that both scientific theories were not incompatible with the existence of a creator – arguing instead that they “require it”.

“When we read about Creation in Genesis, we run the risk of imagining God was a magician, with a magic wand able to do everything. But that is not so,” Francis said.
     
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Oct 28, 2014, 01:56 PM
 
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Oct 28, 2014, 02:27 PM
 
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Copernicus, Galileo, and American Christian right give you guys a bad name.
     
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Oct 28, 2014, 02:31 PM
 
I do have to give Catholics credit for their ability to roll with the cognitive dissonance. Other sects tend to have a "nuke and pave" attitude.
     
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Oct 28, 2014, 02:58 PM
 
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Oct 29, 2014, 01:47 AM
 
Evolution is true. Deniers are essentially morons. Expensive morons, since fighting the Scopes monkey trial over and over and over again is just pissing taxpayer money down the drain.

But for most people, evolution is an abstract theory, unrelated to everyday life. Like continental drift, people don't feel the impact of evolution denial on their daily lives.

The Vatican aims deeper.

People are personally affected by Vatican policies on birth control, on homosexuality, on divorce, on euthanasia. People are literally suffering under Catholic policies.

Tell me again how enlightened and educated Catholic doctrine is, and I will tell you the story about a relative who had to pay several thousand dollars for an annulment because the Vatican views "sin" as a money-making opportunity.
     
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Oct 29, 2014, 07:00 AM
 
I'll bite.

Does anyone listen to the RCC regarding birth control anymore? (Semi-serious question, because I've not seen a Catholic representative talk about it in ages.)
Although they don't endorse homosexuality, at the same time they (rather loudly) teach respect and tolerance for gays (which is better than most other Christian sects).
Divorce? See #1.
Most countries don't even accept euthanasia as a valid practice, not even Canada.

Now, the one issue you didn't list that is more dire is their stance on abortion. If you want to throw rocks, that's the place to heave them.
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Birth control is bad on many levels. For one, The Unite Nation's World Health Orginization lists Them as a class one carcinogeon. People want BST free milk and hormone free livestock, yet freely ingest them on a daily basis.

Then there is Blessed Paul VI encyclical Humane Vitae
Consequences of Artificial Methods

17. Responsible men can become more deeply convinced of the truth of the doctrine laid down by the Church on this issue if they reflect on the consequences of methods and plans for artificial birth control. Let them first consider how easily this course of action could open wide the way for marital infidelity and a general lowering of moral standards. Not much experience is needed to be fully aware of human weakness and to understand that human beings—and especially the young, who are so exposed to temptation—need incentives to keep the moral law, and it is an evil thing to make it easy for them to break that law. Another effect that gives cause for alarm is that a man who grows accustomed to the use of contraceptive methods may forget the reverence due to a woman, and, disregarding her physical and emotional equilibrium, reduce her to being a mere instrument for the satisfaction of his own desires, no longer considering her as his partner whom he should surround with care and affection.

Finally, careful consideration should be given to the danger of this power passing into the hands of those public authorities who care little for the precepts of the moral law. Who will blame a government which in its attempt to resolve the problems affecting an entire country resorts to the same measures as are regarded as lawful by married people in the solution of a particular family difficulty? Who will prevent public authorities from favoring those contraceptive methods which they consider more effective? Should they regard this as necessary, they may even impose their use on everyone. It could well happen, therefore, that when people, either individually or in family or social life, experience the inherent difficulties of the divine law and are determined to avoid them, they may give into the hands of public authorities the power to intervene in the most personal and intimate responsibility of husband and wife.


Limits to Man's Power

Consequently, unless we are willing that the responsibility of procreating life should be left to the arbitrary decision of men, we must accept that there are certain limits, beyond which it is wrong to go, to the power of man over his own body and its natural functions—limits, let it be said, which no one, whether as a private individual or as a public authority, can lawfully exceed. These limits are expressly imposed because of the reverence due to the whole human organism and its natural functions, in the light of the principles We stated earlier, and in accordance with a correct understanding of the "principle of totality" enunciated by Our predecessor Pope Pius XII. (21)
Most annulment require investigations. It needs to be determine if there was a vaild, sacramental marriage. Sometimes it is easy as filing paperwork. Example: two Catholics who elope to Vegas and get married at the "drive thru" are not in a sacramental marriage. Others require a full investigation.

BTW, secular annulments are not free.

Marriage, Divorce, and Annulment - YouTube

The Third Way: Homosexuality and the Catholic Church - YouTube

Desire of the Everlasting Hills on Vimeo
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Then there's this:

Pope Francis Says Forces Of Gravity And Electromagnetism Are Real | Eye of the Tiber
VATICAN––In a stunning break with centuries of Catholic teaching, Pope Francis announced today that the forces of Gravity and Electromagnetism are real, adding that “God is not a magician with a magic wand.” This is in stark contrast with the teaching of his predecessor, Pope Benedict XVI, whose third Encyclical is entitled “God the Magician: Why Gravity Doesn’t Exist.”

During this address to the Pontifical Academy of the Sciences, Pope Francis rocked the Catholic world, which has been a staunch enemy of science since the Church’s public excommunication, execution, and dismemberment of Galileo in 1633. His statements have been called “progressive” by the liberals in the Church who, contrary to the Catechism of the Council of Trent, deny that every falling object is pulled downward by an angel created for that specific purpose by Jesus and Mother Mary.

“It is not inconsistent with the Catholic faith to believe that matter warps space-time,” Pope Francis stated, “such that objects that would normally have travelled in a straight line would bend their path along this curvature and even fall toward the heavier object.” This is a direct contradiction of the teaching of Doctor of the Church St. Bonaventure, who proved through Aristotelian philosophy that objects are attracted toward one another through Love of God and neighbor.

His Holiness did not limit his remarks to gravity, but included the “thorny issue” of electromagnetism in his remarks as well, stating that a Catholic has the right to believe that light travels through space as an electromagnetic wave. This implies a non-literal reading of the Book of Genesis, which says: “And God said: ‘Let there be light,’ and there was light, which is the brightness of God’s teeth when he smiles.”
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Oct 29, 2014, 04:36 PM
 
Originally Posted by Chongo View Post
Birth control is bad on many levels. For one, The Unite Nation's World Health Orginization lists Them as a class one carcinogeon. People want BST free milk and hormone free livestock, yet freely ingest them on a daily basis.
So, condoms are all good then?
     
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So, condoms are all good then?
No artificial means. There are several methods of natural family planning that are allowed, including one that uses the Clear Blue fertility monitor.
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Sorry. But as a Catholic school kid all I will say is that a bunch of supposedly celibate men are not going to dictate my family planning options to me. Even if I was Catholic myself. If you aren't paying to raise any child that's born then fall back! We simply don't live in a world where the primary reason for getting married or even to engage in sexual activity is to pop out babies year after year. There's a reason why the overwhelming majority of western Catholics in general and US Catholics in particular ROUTINELY ignore Church doctrine when it comes to birth control.

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As someone who has used a fertility monitor, it is a royal PITA. And even still, not accurate.
     
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Originally Posted by Chongo View Post
No artificial means. There are several methods of natural family planning that are allowed, including one that uses the Clear Blue fertility monitor.
they don't have to be artificial, you can by them in lambskin too!
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Sorry. But as a Catholic school kid all I will say is that a bunch of supposedly celibate men are not going to dictate my family planning options to me. Even if I was Catholic myself. If you aren't paying to raise any child that's born then fall back! We simply don't live in a world where the primary reason for getting married or even to engage in sexual activity is to pop out babies year after year. There's a reason why the overwhelming majority of western Catholics in general and US Catholics in particular ROUTINELY ignore Church doctrine when it comes to birth control.

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Anyone taking a survey can CLAIM they are Catholic. The percentage of regular Mass attending Catholics that use BC is far lower than "catholics" that take surveys.

The Paradox of Crunchy Women and Chemical Birth Control - Ethika Politika

Luke 16:18
18 “Every one who divorces his wife and marries another commits adultery, and he who marries a woman divorced from her husband commits adultery
Since Jesus was celibate, I guess that means eveyone should ignore his words?
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Anyone taking a survey can CLAIM they are Catholic.
Ah yes, the no true scotsman fallacy.
     
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Ah yes, the no true scotsman fallacy.
You have no idea... It's been trotted out since before St Peter got lost on a fishing trip and ended up in Rome.
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Oct 30, 2014, 11:55 AM
 
The bottom line is either you believe the Church is who she says she is or you don't.
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Originally Posted by Chongo View Post
Anyone taking a survey can CLAIM they are Catholic. The percentage of regular Mass attending Catholics that use BC is far lower than "catholics" that take surveys.
And you wonder why?

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Originally Posted by Chongo View Post
The bottom line is either you believe the Church is who she says she is or you don't.
I suppose that's one way of looking at it. Of course, another way of looking at it is that the Church as an institution should adjust to meet the needs of the people. As opposed to the people merely conforming to outmoded and impractical doctrines of the Church handed down by people who are not affected by them.

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Oct 30, 2014, 01:27 PM
 
I can understand the desire to have followers fully accept the beliefs of the institution, but reality is people are complicated and diverse, and a lot of 'true' believers are just a bunch of hypocrites as well. Self-identification can be problematic as well, as some people don't thoughtfully consider their beliefs as much as allow inertia to retain the label.

I'm amused because if we adhered to Chongo's hardline views, I'm not sure the US would be a Christian nation any more. More Deistic like some of us flaming liberals claim the Founding Fathers were.

But that's another discussion.
     
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Oct 30, 2014, 01:41 PM
 
Originally Posted by Chongo View Post
No artificial means. There are several methods of natural family planning that are allowed, including one that uses the Clear Blue fertility monitor.
Why does it matter the pill may be a carcinogen when non carcinogenic means are also not allowed?

Almost makes one think the carcinogen part is irrelevant.
     
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Why does it matter the pill may be a carcinogen when non carcinogenic means are also not allowed?

Almost makes one think the carcinogen part is irrelevant.
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I'll have to thank Francis for Creationists' salty tears.
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Oct 30, 2014, 02:04 PM
 
Which confuses me because "this is the way God wants it" will either stick as is, or it won't. If it won't, I don't think it counts.

Wouldn't God consider "I'm not using the pill because danger, but would otherwise" differently than "I'm not using the pill as a means of following God's plan"?
     
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Originally Posted by subego View Post
Which confuses me because "this is the way God wants it" will either stick as is, or it won't. If it won't, I don't think it counts.
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Oct 30, 2014, 02:33 PM
 
Which brings up the question whether God considers the action more important, or the intent.

I tend to be an "intent" type myself, so I assume God has his shit together and agrees with me.


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Originally Posted by The Final Dakar View Post
I can understand the desire to have followers fully accept the beliefs of the institution, but reality is people are complicated and diverse, and a lot of 'true' believers are just a bunch of hypocrites as well. Self-identification can be problematic as well, as some people don't thoughtfully consider their beliefs as much as allow inertia to retain the label.

I'm amused because if we adhered to Chongo's hardline views, I'm not sure the US would be a Christian nation any more. More Deistic like some of us flaming liberals claim the Founding Fathers were.

But that's another discussion.
Here ya go! You can use the search function to explore my "hardline views" and those of Pope Francis.
Catechism of the Catholic Church
By saying this, I said what the catechism says
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Oct 30, 2014, 10:44 PM
 
Originally Posted by Chongo View Post
Anyone taking a survey can CLAIM they are Catholic. The percentage of regular Mass attending Catholics that use BC is far lower than "catholics" that take surveys.
And you have numbers to back that up, or is it just a feeling you have?
     
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And you have numbers to back that up, or is it just a feeling you have?
The Washington Post found Guttmacher (AKA Planned Parenthood) was playing with the numbers.

The claim that 98 percent of Catholic women use contraception: a media foul - The Washington Post
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That wasn't really my question.
     
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At my parish, and the others at which I atteneded Mass when on vacation, I see couples with many children. They don't appear to be "popped out every nine months" either. The Church ask only that couples be open to life and NFP does that. Artificial means, whether physical or chemical, closes the marital act to life. Despite Andi's frustration, NFP when properly taught and practiced is just as effecticive as the pill, and without the side affects.
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Just this once, I'd like someone to invent a family planning system that involved men doing something obnoxious like peeing on a stick or shoving a thermometer up their hoohaa every single day, first thing in the morning.
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Originally Posted by Chongo View Post
The Church ask only that couples be open to life and NFP does that. Artificial means, whether physical or chemical, closes the marital act to life. Despite Andi's frustration, NFP when properly taught and practiced is just as effecticive as the pill, and without the side affects.
I'm sure we've had this discussion before, but if NFP achieves the same results as the pill, then what's the difference? The claim is that the pill 'closes the marital act to life' but this is contradicted both by the fact that it is possible to get pregnant on the pill and that you claim that NFP can be just as effective as the pill. If NFP is truly as effective, then it too, closes the marital act to life.
     
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From One More Soul
The Pill vs. NFP « One More Soul
The “Pill” vs. NFP



How It Works



The modern-day birth control pill is made up of two types of artificial steroids that mimic the effects of naturally occurring hormones, estrogen and progesterone. These artificial hormones are formulated to act singularly or in combination, and may be taken by mouth, injected or placed beneath one’s skin. Their effectiveness relies on three mechanisms.

1. Suppression of ovulation. 2. Impeding migration of sperm, and 3. Inhibiting implantation of the embryo in the uterus

The pill is very effective if used as directed. It can prevent or terminate (more on that later) pregnancy 98-99 percent of the time.

So then, if it is so effective, why would I as a physician not prescribe it? Because I believe, as a Catholic Physician, I am called to address not just the patient’s body, but the personal unity of body, mind and soul.



The Body



The effects of artificial contraception can be devastating, depending on a woman’s genetic make-up, weight, length of time and type of contraceptive taken. Modern-day contraceptives have potent cardiovascular effects. A woman’s chances of suffering a heart attack, a stroke, or blood clots are increased significantly, even at the lowered dosages in use today as opposed to higher dosages given when the pill first came on the market over 40 years ago.

Contraceptives also have a potent carcinogenic effect. They raise a woman’s chances of suffering cervical cancer, liver tumors and breast cancer. Contraceptives are linked to increased incidence of migraine headaches, vaginal infections, gallbladder disease, changes in vision and a host of other clinical problems, including death.

Perhaps most sadly, all modern artificial contraceptives can cause early (chemical) abortions. They do this by making the lining of the womb hostile to the implantation and growth of the embryo. Thus, if ovulation occurs despite the contraceptive’s first mechanism (and this happens all too frequently), and the egg is fertilized, becoming a new human being, the contraceptive’s third mechanism acts to deny the embryo the home and nutrition it should receive in its mother’s womb. Therefore, an early abortion can occur during any given cycle and the woman would never know it because the embryo dies and is expelled from the body.

Also, due to a contraceptive’s potency, the side effects will likely last much longer than their time in use, and may cause some women to be permanently infertile.



The Mind



The use of artificial contraception can lead to depression, even after one shot (in the case of Depo-Provera), worsen premenstrual syndrome, and suppress a woman’s sexual drive.



The Soul



The Catholic Church still teaches that deliberate sterilization (temporary or permanent) is a gravely immoral form of birth control. Man and woman were made to be co-creators with God in the making of new human life. Therefore, when one uses contraception it is wrong, not only because it violates the procreative meaning of the sexual act, but also because it violates the unitive act as well. The sexual act is meant by God to be ‘total self-giving’ and when marriage partners withhold their fertility from their spouses, they are not totally giving themselves. The Catholic Church’s challenge to us throughout the centuries has been not to separate the lovemaking and life creating aspects of the sexual act within marriage.



A Healthy Alternative



Natural Family Planning or NFP (of which there are several models, such as the Billings Ovulation Method, the Sympto-Thermal Method or the Creighton Model) is a truly modern and effective way to plan one’s family, understand the miraculous function of the human body, and better participate in God’s plan for married couples and their fertility.

These methods are all based on the fact that a woman will undergo cyclical changes in her fertility evidenced by certain bodily changes. These changes include differences in cervical mucus, body temperature and others. These signs of fertility and infertility are easy to observe and interpret. The couple can then use these signs of fertile and infertile days to either achieve or avoid a pregnancy.

These methods are highly effective. When learned and used correctly and conscientiously, Natural Family Planning is effective in avoiding pregnancy 99.5* percent of the time. Research has documented its effectiveness in achieving a pregnancy in the first cycle of use at 76 percent.

Why isn’t every married couple learning and using NFP? Good question. Perhaps it is because too many people simply don’t know the truth about it. NFP is not a repackaged version of the old calendar-based “rhythm method”-a misconception even doctors have today. Unfortunately, medical training in this area, in most cases, is often nonexistent or inadequate.

In addition to the medical benefits of using NFP, other benefits include the enhancement of the married couple’s sexuality, and placing responsibility for fertility on the man and the woman equally. This leads to a more loving cooperation in matters of sexuality and family planning. By learning NFP, the married couple comes to a deeper understanding of the physical aspect of sexuality and how it relates to the spiritual, mental and emotional aspects of life as well.

Finally, Natural Family Planning is a versatile method that can be used in all stages of reproductive life. The observations a woman makes as a user of NFP can be extremely helpful when seeking the assistance of a physician, should a reproductive problem arise, in the transition from one stage of life to another. These observations can help the physician diagnose and treat such problems as PMS, ovarian cysts, recurrent miscarriages and infertility. Natural Family Planning is easy to learn, inexpensive, and quickly becomes second nature to the married couples who use it. But most importantly, NFP brings together the physical, spiritual and emotional aspects of a couple’s fertility to enrich marriages by following God’s teachings and plan for their married lives.

* J. Reprod. Med. 1998; 43:495-502



Dr. Jose Fernandez is a family practice physician in Kissimmee, Florida. (407) 847-9090



For more information on Natural Family Planning contact:

Billings Ovulation Method Assn-USA (651) 699-8139 www.Boma-usa.org

The Couple To Couple League (STM) (513) 471-2000 www.ccli.org

Family of the Americas Foundation (301) 627-3346 www.familyplanning.net

Northwest Family Services (STM) (503) 215-6377 www.nwfs.org

Pope Paul VI Institute (402) 390-6600 www.popepaulvi.com

One More Soul (800) 307-7685 www.OMSoul.com


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