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Jan 6, 2014, 11:37 AM
 
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$1 Million in Pot Sold in Colorado on First Day of Legal Sales | National Review Online
On January 1, the first day marijuana became legal for recreational use in Colorado, the state’s 24 shops selling the drug reported an estimated over $1 million in sales, Colorado’s KUSA-TV reports.


I'm kind of fascinated by this; First, that's a lot of demand, and most of the shops were just in Denver. Second, this is while, I imagine, you could still get fired from your job for smoking the stuff. A lot of people ain't caring!

BTW, I can understand resistance to legalizing pot for recreational use, but I'm kind of flabbergasted only 20 states allow its use medicinally; In what sense could it possibly be worse than other prescription drugs?
     
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Jan 6, 2014, 11:41 AM
 
How is it worse? You can't patent it.
     
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Jan 6, 2014, 11:43 AM
 
Originally Posted by subego View Post
How is it worse? You can't patent it.
So in 20 states the pharmaceutical lobby couldn't get the job done? That's really it?
     
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Jan 6, 2014, 11:43 AM
 
Because if you smoke it for your cancer, you might get cancer.
     
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Jan 6, 2014, 11:45 AM
 
Originally Posted by The Final Dakar View Post
So in 20 states the pharmaceutical lobby couldn't get the job done? That's really it?
They're certainly helping. I'd reckon it's mostly an inertial "it's bad" sentiment.
     
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Jan 6, 2014, 12:06 PM
 
Originally Posted by subego View Post
Because if you smoke it for your cancer, you might get cancer.
Not sure it works that way. But the tests aren't in yet- though some docs will say "probably" - but those same docs are against pot in the first place, so I wouldn't trust them.
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Jan 6, 2014, 12:12 PM
 
The point is, even if it did, who cares? You've already got cancer.
     
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Jan 6, 2014, 12:12 PM
 
exactly
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Jan 6, 2014, 12:13 PM
 
Really, that's why I have to put on the foil hat to make sense of any of this. Pot is bad but OxyContin is swell?
     
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Jan 6, 2014, 12:19 PM
 
Originally Posted by subego View Post
Pot is bad but OxyContin is swell?
That was my point.
     
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Jan 6, 2014, 12:21 PM
 
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That was my point.
Your point was you had to put on a foil hat to explain it?
     
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Jan 6, 2014, 12:23 PM
 
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Jan 6, 2014, 12:28 PM
 
When I went foil hat, I felt I got a bit of the arched eyebrow.

While there's the aforementioned inertia, it's not enough on its own. All I have left are conspiracy theories.
     
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Jan 6, 2014, 12:30 PM
 
Along with Big Pharma, you can throw in Big Tobacco and organized crime.

They're the ones who stand to lose.
     
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Jan 6, 2014, 12:32 PM
 
Big Tobacco I believe easily.
     
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Oooh...

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Big Paper, Big Cotton, and probably Big Nylon.
     
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OTOH, never one to turn down a new opportunity, Monsanto is just itching to release MarijuRoundUp.
     
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Jan 6, 2014, 01:02 PM
 
Originally Posted by subego View Post
Really, that's why I have to put on the foil hat to make sense of any of this. Pot is bad but OxyContin is swell?
christ, don't even get me going on the FDA. OxyContin and anything else BigPharma pushes at them is ok, but gawd forbid a natural herb that helps people, can't have that...
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Big Tobacco I believe easily.
What about Big Airline, and Big Hair, not to mention Big Ass?
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Jan 6, 2014, 02:19 PM
 
Unlike tobacco, cannabis grows anywhere, making difficult to regulate. Colorado is banking on people being too lazy to grow it themselves.
     
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Jan 6, 2014, 02:35 PM
 
Originally Posted by Chongo View Post
Colorado is banking on people being too lazy to grow it themselves.
What happens if they grow it themselves? Everyone becomes a dealer? The price crashes?
     
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Jan 6, 2014, 03:19 PM
 
No tax revenue.
     
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No tax revenue.
Oh, I thought you meant a real problem
     
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Originally Posted by The Final Dakar View Post
Big Tobacco I believe easily.
They already have the facilities and infrastructure to become "Big Ganja", so I'm sure they aren't sweating it too much.
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Jan 6, 2014, 06:27 PM
 
Weeds was a cautionary tale to big business, to get in on the ground floor? Huh. Gotta watch out for the Nancy's of the world.

Also, if everyone who wants to grow their own have the same kind of luck I do just growing $%^&* tomatoes, I don't think commercial growers have an issue.
     
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Jan 6, 2014, 06:49 PM
 
Originally Posted by The Final Dakar View Post
Oh, I thought you meant a real problem
The states won't do it until they can figure out how to make the most money from that. There's alot of special interest to untangle in order for that to happen, so there's your reason for why it is and will be a painfully slow process. Here's your government for you.

Personally, i can't wait until they get it together and just legalize it.
     
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Jan 6, 2014, 07:07 PM
 
Don't criticize it...
     
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Don't criticize it...
Peter Tosh - Legalize It - YouTube

     
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Weeds was a cautionary tale to big business, to get in on the ground floor? Huh. Gotta watch out for the Nancy's of the world.

Also, if everyone who wants to grow their own have the same kind of luck I do just growing $%^&* tomatoes, I don't think commercial growers have an issue.
My sister used to grow some mad ass sinsemilla sh*t
     
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My sister used to grow some mad ass sinsemilla sh*t
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Originally Posted by andi*pandi View Post
Also, if everyone who wants to grow their own have the same kind of luck I do just growing $%^&* tomatoes, I don't think commercial growers have an issue.
But have you tried growing Tomacco? It tastes like Grandma.
     
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Originally Posted by Shaddim View Post
They already have the facilities and infrastructure to become "Big Ganja", so I'm sure they aren't sweating it too much.
Tobacco is also a lot harder to grow in your home, being the big difference.
     
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Originally Posted by The Final Dakar View Post
Tobacco is also a lot harder to grow in your home, being the big difference.
With cannabis, all you need to do is throw a handful seeds in your yard and your in business.
     
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If you want mostly THC-challenged male plants, that taste like sh*t. Good cannabis requires care in cultivation, not that I've ever done anything like that...
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Originally Posted by Shaddim View Post
If you want mostly THC-challenged male plants, that taste like sh*t. Good cannabis requires care in cultivation, not that I've ever done anything like that...
Like I said, my sister did. She did "weed" out the male plants for some fine sinsemilla. A little tomato plant food helped as well. That was well over twenty years ago. Random drug testing at work put a quick end to that.
     
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Jan 7, 2014, 05:59 PM
 
I wasn't saying it can't be privately grown, there's a reason it's the #1 specialty cash crop in the world, but there's a lot more involved than simply throwing out a handful of seeds in your yard.
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Originally Posted by Shaddim View Post
I wasn't saying it can't be privately grown, there's a reason it's the #1 specialty cash crop in the world, but there's a lot more involved than simply throwing out a handful of seeds in your yard.
darn right. it's a serious business - strains, growing mediums/techniques, light spectrums, etc...
lots of hard work goes into the #1 crop!
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Jan 8, 2014, 04:02 PM
 
Oh, and I'm jealous. We probably won't legalize for at least another 2 years.
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Jan 9, 2014, 08:21 AM
 
Wait, do you need ID to get the pot?
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Originally Posted by ebuddy View Post
Wait, do you need ID to get the pot?
I imagine it gets treated like cigarettes.

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Also, I read they did $5 million in sales the first week.
     
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Jan 9, 2014, 03:14 PM
 
Originally Posted by ebuddy View Post
Wait, do you need ID to get the pot?
Yes, you have to have a CO drivers license.
     
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Jan 9, 2014, 03:15 PM
 
Originally Posted by The Final Dakar View Post
I imagine it gets treated like cigarettes.

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Also, I read they did $5 million in sales the first week.
Not quite, you have to have a CO drivers license to be able to go to a dispensary. Source: I was just out there for 2 weeks.
     
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Not quite, you have to have a CO drivers license to be able to go to a dispensary. Source: I was just out there for 2 weeks.
What's the difference between that and cigarettes?
     
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Jan 9, 2014, 04:52 PM
 
Originally Posted by The Final Dakar View Post
What's the difference between that and cigarettes?
I can buy cigarettes in CO with an IA driver's license. I get the feeling you have to have a CO license for pot.
     
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Originally Posted by Laminar View Post
I can buy cigarettes in CO with an IA driver's license. I get the feeling you have to have a CO license for pot.
That's splitting hairs in regards to ebuddy's question.
     
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Let's just blame you to keep things simple.
     
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Originally Posted by Laminar View Post
I can buy cigarettes in CO with an IA driver's license. I get the feeling you have to have a CO license for pot.
I believe if it's over 1/4 ounce you need a CO license. Less, no - according to CNN.
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