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How do you feel about: Welfare Drug Testing?
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Mar 20, 2017, 07:45 PM
 
Yet another Obama reg repealed. Let's hear it: Who here is for drug testing? Other than emotional satisfaction or just vindictiveness, I don't see the point. All this does is enrich drug testing companies.
     
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Mar 20, 2017, 09:24 PM
 
At the very least, no matter where you stand on it, it should make financial sense to do so, and so far that doesn't seem to be the case.
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Mar 20, 2017, 09:38 PM
 
It's just throwing red meat to the GOP base. It has no basis if fiscally prudent policy at all as the link above makes abundantly clear. But OTOH there is always this irony.

GOP Rep. Trey Radel, Busted On Cocaine Charge, Voted For Drug Testing Food Stamp Recipients

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Mar 20, 2017, 10:28 PM
 
It's something that sounds like a valid idea, certainly my facebook feed is in favor of it, but the cost benefit doesn't seem to show it saves us any money. Could the threat of looming random testing be a middle ground? There would probably be issues with "random."
     
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Mar 20, 2017, 10:35 PM
 
It's basically voter id for welfare. Sounds logical in theory but in reality the violation rate is very low.
     
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Mar 20, 2017, 10:41 PM
 
Originally Posted by andi*pandi View Post
It's something that sounds like a valid idea, certainly my facebook feed is in favor of it, but the cost benefit doesn't seem to show it saves us any money. Could the threat of looming random testing be a middle ground? There would probably be issues with "random."
If drug tests were used as a scalpel, e. g. to prevent children from growing up with addicts as parents, then spending the money makes sense. However, their blanket use is a waste of money according to the data, and should therefore be discontinued.
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Mar 21, 2017, 08:47 AM
 
So some welfare scammer has a meth lab in the basement and it catches fire. You seem to disconnect the mindset of addicts from being welfare recipients.
     
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Mar 21, 2017, 09:54 AM
 
That escalated quickly.
     
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Mar 21, 2017, 10:41 AM
 
Originally Posted by BadKosh View Post
So some welfare scammer has a meth lab in the basement and it catches fire. You seem to disconnect the mindset of addicts from being welfare recipients.
You seem to disconnect that the number of freeloading meth cooks is minuscule compared to the number of welfare recipients.
     
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Mar 21, 2017, 05:17 PM
 
Originally Posted by BadKosh View Post
So some welfare scammer has a meth lab in the basement and it catches fire. You seem to disconnect the mindset of addicts from being welfare recipients.
yup there's that careful appreciation of nuanced and complex situations again.
     
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Mar 21, 2017, 09:15 PM
 
Originally Posted by BadKosh View Post
So some welfare scammer has a meth lab in the basement and it catches fire. You seem to disconnect the mindset of addicts from being welfare recipients.
???
Have you seen the statistics? They are much lower than the population average, and a meth lab isn't something agencies dealing with welfare should be concerned about, but law enforcement.
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Mar 22, 2017, 06:37 PM
 
a meth lab isn't something agencies dealing with welfare should be concerned about
Yeah, because they don't involve the public's welfare at all.
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Mar 23, 2017, 07:25 AM
 
People are far too trusting/gullible. Where are the anti-corruption/scamming mechanisms in the legislation?
     
   
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