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gbvaughan Dec 20, 2000 01:03 AM
Mac OS X icons in OS9?
I would very much like to have a few of those gorgeous OS X icons on my OS 9 desktop at their full size.
Does anyone know of a way to get these sizes to be recognized and displayed?


spicyjeff Dec 20, 2000 01:53 AM
OS 9 icons are 32x32 pixels. OS X icons are 128x128 pixels. So sure you can go grab them in OS X but you will have to scale them down to 32x32 for OS 9 using Photoshop (or similar). By doing this you will no longer have the big, hi-res icon you think looks so good. So in short, no, you cannot really do this.
MikeM32 Dec 20, 2000 02:14 AM
I just tried this upon reading the opening post here. I booted into OSX and then dragged an icon from the inspector window (command + i). I then dragged the alias over to my OS 9 partition.

I tried a generic folder and an actual Hard Disk icon. The hard disk icon maintains it's original appearance under OS 9, but the folder defaults to an OS 9.0.4 folder icon.

Just a sidenote (alot probably already know this) by using the inspector (command + i while highlighting an item) and dragging the icon out your'e actually creating an alias that you can place just about anywhere in OSX.

Maybe 9.1 will offer some other options with using OSX icons within the 9.1 environment.


Just wanted to add just now I moved the icon on the desktop and it actually changed from the OSX icon to the generic 9x hard drive icon before my eyes!!!

so much for that idea

[This message has been edited by MikeM32 (edited 12-20-2000).]
Aussiemac Dec 20, 2000 03:48 AM
click on icons and then osx pack it still works
gbvaughan Dec 20, 2000 11:30 AM
Thanks everyone for the help. I guess I was hoping for a resedit fix to enable support or something like that. Guess I'll wait for the release of OS X. The beta is to slow with all the debug code still in it.

MikeM32 Dec 20, 2000 11:40 AM
Aussie thanks for the link. I just downloaded 'em.

Oneota Dec 20, 2000 01:28 PM
What in the heck are you guys talking about?? Of course you can use OS X icons in OS 9, and no, you don't need to use Photoshop to do it! All you have to do is paste the icon onto the desired object, and if it's an OS X icon, OS 9 will display the maximum size that it knows how (32x32) and OS X will display the maximum size that *it* knows how (128x128).

The reason that your folder icon changed was because it is a generic icon, not a custom icon. OS X and OS 9 have different generic icons for the same object. Try this: Copy the folder icon, then paste it back on (which will create a custom icon that is, in fact, identical to OS X's generic one). Then boot into OS 9. Voila; you'll have a folder with a 32x32 OS X folder icon. No, you can't get the bigger size 'cause OS 9 doesn't have support for icons bigger than 32x32 (I think the OS itself can do 48x48, but the Finder doesn't know how).
spicyjeff Dec 20, 2000 03:18 PM
Yes you can let the OS resize the icon to 32x32 but it will look even worse than if you resize it yourself. But either way you are cutting down the resolution of your icon and its not going to look as good as the OS X hi-res icons.
Paul Crawford Dec 21, 2000 01:35 AM
Hi all,

Just wanted to expand a little on the last thing that Oneota said in a previous post. The "classic" Mac OS 8.5+ did introduce system-level support for the so-called "huge" icon size of 48x48 pixels [I guess "huge" is a relative term :-)], a.k.a. the "default" TIFF icon size in NextStep / Mac OS X Server, and the "scaled down" icon size in early Mac OS X. Also, Mac OS 8.5+ introduced support for photo-realistic 32-bit-colour or "deep" icons. In theory at least, any application (including the Finder) that's aware of the new all-in-one 'icns' resource (which houses the "huge" size and the "deep" variants, and can also include the other sizes) should be able to display these larger and/or deeper icons.

E.g., as the author of the shareware icon editor Iconographer has mentioned, Sherlock2's Search/Stop buttons are 48x48 icons. This can be confirmed by browsing Sherlock2's 'icns' resource in Iconographer or any other 'icns'-aware icon editor. However, as Oneota mentioned, it seems that the Mac OS 8.5.x and 9.0.x Finders were never updated to natively display icons at sizes larger than 32x32.

In any event, the 48x48 "huge" size doesn't have quite the same look as the 128x128 "preview" or "thumbnail" size (although the look & size may be considered better or worse, depending on your tastes). As others have said, Mac OS X will probably remain the best place to display 128x128 icons in the foreseeable future [unless there are some major suprises coming in Mac OS 9.1+ ;-)].



[This message has been edited by Paul Crawford (edited 12-21-2000).]
iPaul UK Dec 21, 2000 08:02 PM
This may or may not be of use..

On that website/page is an Aqua theme pack thing.. Changes lots of things so that OS 9 looks quite a lot like OS X, including icons. Albeit in OS 9 friendly resolutions. Well worth the short download time.
Ruby Dec 21, 2000 08:27 PM
Icons are cooler in Mac OS X than they are in 9?? Oh, I'm jealous

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