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mattyb Jan 19, 2013 02:45 PM
Magic Trackpad
I'm going to be getting a Mac Mini and a site that I'd read a review on said to get the Magic Trackpad instead of the Magic Mouse. Now I'm not a fan of the pads on laptops, but maybe I'll like the latest and greatest from Apple. I've always used a non-Apple mouse with my iMac.

So, trackpad or mouse to go with the Mini?
 
Thorzdad Jan 19, 2013 03:10 PM
Personally, I hate using trackpads, so I'd opt for the mouse. It really depends on what you're doing. I do a lot of detail work in Illustrator and Photoshop, and I can't imagine trying to do anything with a trackpad.
 
Spheric Harlot Jan 19, 2013 06:16 PM
Never again a mouse if I can help it.
 
ibook_steve Jan 20, 2013 01:12 AM
Logitech mouse. Accept no substitutes.

I can't imagine relying exclusively on a trackpad, despite what Apple would have you believe.

Steve
 
subego Jan 20, 2013 02:38 AM
If you don't do detail work, trackpad, 100%. Why?

A) Gestures
B) Takes up less space
C) Two finger control-click
D) Gestures

It is still a trackpad, so you have to get in the trackpad frame of mind, but I highly recommend it.
 
raleur Jan 20, 2013 09:21 AM
I love both, but the other commenters are right: it depends on what you do.

In my experience, the trackpad was surprisingly easy to get used to, but I still switch to mouse for design apps.
 
mattyb Jan 20, 2013 12:44 PM
Since Mrs. Mattyb also has to use the computer, I have a feeling that a mouse will be better to keep the peace.

Cheers for the advice.
 
Spheric Harlot Jan 20, 2013 12:59 PM
Have her try it if you can!

I've had casual newbies try a Magic Trackpad for the first time and *immediately* realize that it's just the thing for them. It's *far* more "organic" and "natural" (particularly with the Lion/Mountain Lion default settings) than a mouse.

Things like pinching to resize in Pages, or generally just zoom (in properly coded applications), or twisting to rotate stuff (like in Pages, again), are the icing: just *so* nice and much less easily done on a mouse. And that's before you get to gestures. :)
 
cgc Jan 20, 2013 01:17 PM
Quote, Originally Posted by ibook_steve (Post 4212745)
Logitech mouse. Accept no substitutes.

I can't imagine relying exclusively on a trackpad, despite what Apple would have you believe.

Steve
I LOVE Logitech v450 laser notebook mice for my desktop (I use mice with fingertips only) but my wife has a Microsoft Wireless Mouse 6000 that is fantastic.

I too despise trackpads...
 
Thorzdad Jan 20, 2013 01:30 PM
Quote, Originally Posted by subego (Post 4212746)
...
B) Takes up less space
...
How does a 5x5" trackpad take up less space than a 4.5 x 2.25" magic mouse?
 
raleur Jan 20, 2013 01:34 PM
Quote, Originally Posted by Thorzdad (Post 4212805)
How does a 5x5" trackpad take up less space than a 4.5 x 2.25" magic mouse?
Really, really high acceleration settings?
 
Spheric Harlot Jan 20, 2013 02:05 PM
Quote, Originally Posted by Thorzdad (Post 4212805)
How does a 5x5" trackpad take up less space than a 4.5 x 2.25" magic mouse?
You sure you've ever used a mouse before? You're supposed to move them on the desk.
 
Thorzdad Jan 20, 2013 02:09 PM
Yeah, but I have the tracking set fairly high, so it's very minimal movement. It's not like I'm moving a foot in any direction.
 
Spheric Harlot Jan 20, 2013 02:57 PM
.5" in one direction would be enough to render your previous post dumb disingenuous.
 
subego Jan 20, 2013 05:54 PM
Quote, Originally Posted by Thorzdad (Post 4212810)
Yeah, but I have the tracking set fairly high, so it's very minimal movement. It's not like I'm moving a foot in any direction.
Most people mouse within an area about, let's see... carry the four...

By my calculations, about the size of a mousepad.
 
subego Jan 20, 2013 06:06 PM
Quote, Originally Posted by Spheric Harlot (Post 4212811)
.5"
You misspelled ½. :P
 
Spheric Harlot Jan 20, 2013 07:00 PM
You forgot the units.
 
subego Jan 20, 2013 07:49 PM
You didn't misspell the units.
 
Spheric Harlot Jan 20, 2013 08:01 PM
I spelt ".5" absolutely correctly — for Americans.

AFAIK, the rest of the world requires the leading zero.

If even pandering to your cultural deficits doesn't eliminate confusion, I really can't help you. ;)
 
subego Jan 21, 2013 06:53 AM
Quote, Originally Posted by Spheric Harlot (Post 4212849)
I spelt
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v8...9D30D0DBDB.jpg
 
raleur Jan 21, 2013 11:58 AM
Ouch.
 
mattyb Jan 21, 2013 02:26 PM
 
The Final Dakar Jan 21, 2013 02:29 PM
Quote, Originally Posted by Spheric Harlot (Post 4212849)
"pandering to your cultural deficits"
Highbrow burn of the day.
 
Spheric Harlot Jan 21, 2013 03:23 PM
I work hard at my Eurosnobbery. :)
 
mattyb Jan 21, 2013 04:27 PM
Quote, Originally Posted by Spheric Harlot (Post 4212802)
Have her try it if you can!

I've had casual newbies try a Magic Trackpad for the first time and *immediately* realize that it's just the thing for them. It's *far* more "organic" and "natural" (particularly with the Lion/Mountain Lion default settings) than a mouse.

Things like pinching to resize in Pages, or generally just zoom (in properly coded applications), or twisting to rotate stuff (like in Pages, again), are the icing: just *so* nice and much less easily done on a mouse. And that's before you get to gestures. :)
How many apps, outside of Apple apps, actually make use of the Trackpad though?
 
Spheric Harlot Jan 21, 2013 05:03 PM
Gestures work throughout the OS.

Come to think of it, the only non-Apple apps I use are various little utilities, and an older version of Ableton (rarely).

But I freely admit that at least part of the reason I use Apple's stuff over others is precisely *because* it supports the cool stuff Macintosh does. That's kind of the point of the platform.
 
subego Jan 21, 2013 05:46 PM
Quote, Originally Posted by mattyb (Post 4212969)
How many apps, outside of Apple apps, actually make use of the Trackpad though?
The gesture you'll use the most (if you're like me) is the three-finger swipe between apps, so, any app which has a fullscreen mode.
 
mattyb Jan 22, 2013 12:14 PM
Quote, Originally Posted by subego (Post 4212986)
The gesture you'll use the most (if you're like me) is the three-finger swipe between apps, so, any app which has a fullscreen mode.
Well, last time I used the "But it's the 21st century and telephones need the firmware updating sometimes." to Mrs. Mattyb, there were some choice words exchanged. I can't even imagine how to sell the trackpad.
 
The Final Dakar Jan 22, 2013 12:46 PM
Quote, Originally Posted by mattyb (Post 4213106)
I can't even imagine how to sell the trackpad.
Comes with jewelry?
 
Spheric Harlot Jan 22, 2013 01:00 PM
Quote, Originally Posted by mattyb (Post 4213106)
I can't even imagine how to sell the trackpad.
Again: I just showed some of the basic functionality (not even the gestures) to customers, and the response, especially from the newbies, was invariably "wow". Pages and Safari tend to be the clinchers.

If you're on Word and Firefox, you're not doing the wife a favor.
 
abbaZaba Jan 22, 2013 01:55 PM
the Magic Trackpad has been one of the best purchases I have made. Thoroughly enjoy it and use it over a mouse for 98% of computer time.
 
cgc Jan 22, 2013 05:52 PM
I don't buy anything with the word "magic" in it...
 
Spheric Harlot Jan 22, 2013 06:20 PM
No Magic Markers for you!
 
subego Jan 22, 2013 06:50 PM
More shrooms for me!
 
shifuimam Jan 23, 2013 04:32 PM
I rather like my Magic Trackpad, and there are third-party Windows drivers available that make it pretty great in Win7, too.

I reallllly wish there were PPC drivers, though. I'd use it with my iMac G5 in a heartbeat.
 
jmiddel Jan 24, 2013 12:27 AM
Quote, Originally Posted by Spheric Harlot (Post 4212709)
Never again a mouse if I can help it.
I totally agree. Been using a Magic Trackpad (MTP) since June/2011 and just love it. Going back to the mouse on my wife's Mini seems just so primitive anymore, especially with ML allowing us to use iOs gestures. I fully understand that folks who need the greatest precision, eg graphic artists, find an ultra-precise mouse preferable, but even working in InDesign, the MTP allows me to skate, rather than walk my cursor :)
 
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