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mattyb Aug 12, 2008 02:18 PM
Halo is for children, real men play Call of Duty 4
Nuf said.
 
Dakar the Fourth Aug 12, 2008 02:26 PM
I have trouble accepting suppositions of what "real men" do from people located in France.
 
boy8cookie Aug 12, 2008 02:33 PM
Agree.
with both
 
mattyb Aug 12, 2008 02:35 PM
Quote, Originally Posted by Dakar the Fourth (Post 3706906)
I have trouble accepting suppositions of what "real men" do from people located in France.
What makes a half English, half American male, who has fathered children any less of a man because he lives in France?
 
Dakar the Fourth Aug 12, 2008 02:37 PM
Quote, Originally Posted by mattyb (Post 3706913)
What makes a half English, half American male, who has fathered children any less of a man because he lives in France?
Willingly surrounding yourself with the French.
 
mattyb Aug 12, 2008 02:42 PM
Quote, Originally Posted by Dakar the Fourth (Post 3706915)
Willingly surrounding yourself with the French.
While its tempting to reply, to point out the make-up of the American population, I shall not allow this thread to be hijacked in an attempt to stop the truth about Halo and Call of Duty 4 from being heard.
 
Dakar the Fourth Aug 12, 2008 02:43 PM
Quote, Originally Posted by mattyb (Post 3706920)
While its tempting to reply, to point out the make-up of the American population, I shall not allow this thread to be hijacked in an attempt to stop the truth about Halo and Call of Duty 4 from being heard.
In other words, you surrender.
 
Chuckit Aug 12, 2008 02:51 PM
Quote, Originally Posted by Dakar the Fourth (Post 3706922)
In other words, you surrender.
It's a cultural thing.

Anyway, I think it would be more accurate to say that Halo is for people who enjoy killing a bunch of annoying teenagers over the Internet, whereas Call of Duty 4 is for people who enjoy sitting in broken-down houses for 15 minutes doing jack-all until somebody happens to walk in front of your window or you get stabbed in the back.

(I'm aware that there are other ways to play COD4, but this seems to be the most popular playstyle.)
 
mattyb Aug 12, 2008 02:53 PM
Quote, Originally Posted by Dakar the Fourth (Post 3706922)
In other words, you surrender.
Ahhh, I see. No, not me sir. Your needle gun is useless against my AK-47 with grenade launcher. I flick your stickies off like flies.
 
sek929 Aug 12, 2008 02:54 PM
Video games in general are for children. Of course both games cater to entirely different types of gameplay.

COD4 is about sneaky killing, and you can be killed within seconds. Halo is about arming yourself to the teeth for long, drawn-out battles against multiple opponents. Not to mention....Vehicles, equipment, invisibility, etc...

Real men play Braid :D
 
sek929 Aug 12, 2008 02:55 PM
Quote, Originally Posted by mattyb (Post 3706935)
Ahhh, I see. No, not me sir. Your needle gun is useless against my AK-47 with grenade launcher. I flick your stickies off like flies.
A cybernetic 8-foot tall war machine that can jump 10 feet in the air and has a regenerative shield would murder an entire match full of COD4 players.

Both games are awesome, are you just jealous Halo always has the most online players of any game?
 
Dakar the Fourth Aug 12, 2008 02:57 PM
Quote, Originally Posted by mattyb (Post 3706935)
Ahhh, I see. No, not me sir. Your needle gun is useless against my AK-47 with grenade launcher. I flick your stickies off like flies.
Yeah... and my Turret will hose your AK.

Quote, Originally Posted by sek929 (Post 3706936)
Video games in general are for children.
Except for that part about the majority of gamers being over 18.
 
sek929 Aug 12, 2008 02:57 PM
I wasn't really being serious, jerk.

Edit: 25,000 people played Halo 2 over the last 24hrs. How many are playing the old COD games? Anyone?
 
mattyb Aug 12, 2008 03:06 PM
On another forum, somebody said that CoD4 (fairly new, game of the year and all that IIRC) was played more than any other Xbox Live game. I can't verify this - haven't got Xbox Live yet.

Anyway, Sergeant "Soap" MacTavish has far bigger balls than Master Chef.[sic]
 
Dakar the Fourth Aug 12, 2008 03:10 PM
LIVE Activity for week of August 4th


Xbox 360 Top Live Titles (based on UU’s)
1 Halo 3
2 Call of Duty 4
3 GTA IV
4 Gears of War
5 Guitar Hero III
6 Rock Band
7 Battlefield: Bad Company
8 SOULCALIBUR IV
9 Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six Vegas 2
10 Geometry Wars Evolved²
 
sek929 Aug 12, 2008 03:11 PM
Considering Halo 3 has a minimum of 2 million matches and 800K+ unique gamertags every 24 hours I'm going to go ahead and call BS on that.

Edit: Dakar beat me to it.

Editx2: Halo 2 currently has 336,555,601 logged player matches.
 
mattyb Aug 12, 2008 03:21 PM
The fact that more children play Halo 3 than adults playing Call of Duty 4 just proves my point.

Anyway some weeks its CoD4.

Master Chef pees sitting down.

/and then the demographics of Halo3 players are Googled
 
sek929 Aug 12, 2008 03:23 PM
Quote, Originally Posted by mattyb (Post 3706947)
I can't verify this - haven't got Xbox Live yet.
Must've missed this. You are judging Halo without an Xbox Live account. I see now.

I'll give it to you that the single player campaign of CoD4 spanks Halo 3's campaign...but since Halo 2 noone cares about that anyways, it allll about MP.
 
Dakar the Fourth Aug 12, 2008 03:23 PM
I can't believe this is turning into a "legitimate" debate, but...
Quote, Originally Posted by mattyb (Post 3706969)
The fact that more children play Halo 3 than adults playing Call of Duty 4 just proves my point.
Where in the hell did you come up with that?
 
mattyb Aug 12, 2008 03:29 PM
Quote, Originally Posted by Dakar the Fourth (Post 3706972)
I can't believe this is turning into a "legitimate" debate, but...

Where in the hell did you come up with that?
Standard French argument.

Reels another one in.
 
Dakar the Fourth Aug 12, 2008 03:31 PM
Yeah, that argument kinda of applies to all online gamers. So you kinda shot yourself in the foot there.
 
sek929 Aug 12, 2008 03:32 PM
How do determine age online? Voice?

If so then Dakar is a 16-year old emo kid.
Who knows what the hell I sound like...
 
Dakar the Fourth Aug 12, 2008 03:33 PM
Quote, Originally Posted by sek929 (Post 3706979)
If so then Dakar is a 16-year old emo kid.
I beginning to remember why I enjoyed my time away from Halo.
 
mattyb Aug 12, 2008 03:39 PM
lol.

On a more serious note, I guess that I have to give Halo 3 more of a chance. I played it a bit then went out and got CoD4 (having been a CoD2 fan) and stayed up all night.
 
sek929 Aug 12, 2008 03:46 PM
Halo 3's campaign isn't worth much more than a training course for multiplayer.

Get Xbox Live, come join the crew for a few meet-ups and then make your decision.

Otherwise I dare say you're not qualified to judge both games in any accurate manner.
 
mattyb Aug 12, 2008 04:07 PM
Quote, Originally Posted by sek929 (Post 3706994)
Halo 3's campaign isn't worth much more than a training course for multiplayer.

Get Xbox Live, come join the crew for a few meet-ups and then make your decision.

Otherwise I dare say you're not qualified to judge both games in any accurate manner.
I'm not comfortable yet with the thumb aiming (either in Halo 3 or CoD4) to go online. I actually think that the campaign is worthwhile for me to get used to the controls. I'll play them both, and someday I may just beat you on the battlefield.

/going home after a VERY long day at work - its 22H00 here in surrender land.
 
::maroma:: Aug 12, 2008 05:26 PM
Man, this thread was awesome. If its over that is. If not, then this thread is awesome.
 
mattyb Aug 12, 2008 06:35 PM
Just played (off-line) a bit of Halo 3, then a bit of CoD4. I'm shite at both so pwning Dakar and sek929 will have to wait a while.

And, a little question : have sek929 or Dakar ever played CoD4?
 
Stogieman Aug 12, 2008 07:02 PM
Does CoD4 allow guests to play online like Halo 3? I don't own the game myself but everytime I go over to my friends house, no can can figure out how to play with other people online. The four of us have to resort to just playing each other. It gets boring after awhile with the limited number of maps and game types. (Can you download extra maps like Halo?) To me it seems that Halo has a bigger variety maps and game types (CTF, Assualt, Territories, Rocket Race, Grift Ball, etc). Does CoD4 have something simular to Halo's theater? Can you save and post pictures or videos of your previous matches?

Don't get me wrong, CoD4 is a great game. The campaign is much better than Halo 3 but when it comes to multiplayer, Halo wins hands down.
 
Chuckit Aug 12, 2008 07:49 PM
COD4 doesn't allow guests to play on Xbox Live. You either have one player per Xbox and play on XBL or you have 2-4 players per Xbox and play locally.

And yeah, there are DLC maps.
 
sek929 Aug 12, 2008 09:24 PM
Quote, Originally Posted by mattyb (Post 3707098)
I'm shite at both so pwning Dakar and sek929 will have to wait a while.
You would probably pwn me in CoD4 online, but good luck not embarrassing yourself playing Halo against me. ;)

Quote, Originally Posted by mattyb (Post 3707098)
And, a little question : have sek929 or Dakar ever played CoD4?
Yup, played most of the campaign when I borrowed the game. Played a smattering of online at friend's houses and beat the campaign.
 
sek929 Aug 12, 2008 09:26 PM
Quote, Originally Posted by Stogieman (Post 3707113)
Does CoD4 have something simular to Halo's theater? Can you save and post pictures or videos of your previous matches?
IMO a feature most games need to consider from now on. Halo really set the bar with theirs.

Also, I have yet to find a console matchmaking system that has the right to lick Halo's feet.
 
klb5090 Aug 12, 2008 10:55 PM
i will say it took some balls to post a thread title like this when the Halo 3 Thread has 1800+ posts and the Call of Duty 4 thread has how many? can someone remind me?

oh and on a side note,
when call of duty produces a ranking/matchmaking system (as sek said), vehicles, screenshots, videos, re-playability of campaign (with campaign scoring and 4 player co-op), customizable characters, did i mention multiple grenades and. vehicles
 
Stogieman Aug 13, 2008 12:18 AM
Quote, Originally Posted by mattyb (Post 3706947)
Anyway, Sergeant "Soap" MacTavish has far bigger balls than Master Chef.[sic]
What good is having bigger balls if you can't tea bag your opponents?
 
sek929 Aug 13, 2008 11:20 AM
Does Master Chief even have balls?

..and if he does, are they bionic balls?
 
mattyb Aug 13, 2008 01:45 PM
Real men don't need post count to show how rock hard they are.

Matchmaking? wtf is that? I'm already married.

Vehicles, not sure about on-line, but I've done : helos with machine gun, helos with grenade launcher, AC-130 gunship (25mm, 40mm and 105mm weapons), you can even carry your mate to safety !!!

Teabags are for kids, men skull f**k.
 
Dakar the Fourth Aug 13, 2008 01:49 PM
Quote, Originally Posted by mattyb (Post 3707098)
And, a little question : have sek929 or Dakar ever played CoD4?
Yes, I have. Stylistically, I prefer COD (and the gameplay was not unappealing, at least 1 v 1). And there's no gay superjumping.

That said, Halo has more people, more modes (as far as I can tell), and COD4s level design didn't knock me off my feet.

And yeah, the theater mode is the ****. Not to mention Forge.
 
mattyb Aug 13, 2008 02:17 PM
One of the criticisms of my PC using CoD4 playing clan was that the CoD4 maps were too small. Seem OK to me so far, but on-line playing is (to me anyway) a different game entirely.

Not sure if I said if before, but in CoD2 I only ever played Team Deathmatch and Capture the Flag style matches. Search and Destroy (where you don't respawn), Deathmatch (everyone for himself) and Headquarters never appealed.

When I break the chains of servitude tonight, I shall try and get some Halo3 time in.
 
Chuckit Aug 13, 2008 02:26 PM
I don't play either game single-player on a regular basis. I think the online multiplayer for COD is a bit plodding and cheap (and this isn't coming from being defeated — I'm usually in the top half of the rankings). It's not apparent in one-on-one fights, but Xbox Live seems to work out to camp or be killed. This is realistic, because if you're a soldier in a field full of snipers, you probably aren't going to go out in the open. In COD, you're playing a realistic soldier with realistic weapons in a realistic environment (more or less). In Halo, you're playing a superhero with laser guns and alien hovercraft tanks. It makes for very different play styles despite the fact that both are in the FPS genre.
 
JayMan8081 Aug 14, 2008 02:10 PM
I'm putting my voice in for Halo 3's multiplayer and for CoD4's campaign. I agree that CoD4's campaign was highly addictive and the story it told was amazing! At the moment Halo 3 has churned out more DLC so it's multiplayer can be a little more diverse.
 
::maroma:: Aug 14, 2008 05:31 PM
I'm trading in my CoD4 disc today for a new game. I played through the campaign and really enjoyed it. I tried some multi-player but I didn't really enjoy it. I haven't touched the game in months. But I will never trade in my Halo 3, that is until Halo 4 arrives. ;)
 
olePigeon Aug 14, 2008 07:02 PM
I think it comes down to the majority of Americans are completely ignorant when it comes to France and its people, especially in regards to the Revolutionary (American) War and World War II. Carry on about Halo and other unoriginal and unimaginative games.
 
Dakar the Fourth Aug 14, 2008 08:31 PM
Quote, Originally Posted by olePigeon (Post 3708332)
I think it comes down to the majority of Americans are completely ignorant when it comes to France and its people, especially in regards to the Revolutionary (American) War and World War II. Carry on about Halo and other unoriginal and unimaginative games.
You're looking for this thread.

And what are you, some kind of Wii lvr?
 
sek929 Aug 14, 2008 09:58 PM
OlePigeon gets the gold medal in random spitefulness!
 
sogbrightlight Aug 15, 2008 02:22 AM
WoW beats both COD4 and Halo3 together. Over 10 million subscribers.
 
calverson Aug 15, 2008 04:38 AM
Quote, Originally Posted by sogbrightlight (Post 3708494)
WoW beats both COD4 and Halo3 together. Over 10 million subscribers.
WoW is for people without real lives.
 
Dakar the Fourth Aug 15, 2008 08:05 AM
Quote, Originally Posted by sogbrightlight (Post 3708494)
WoW beats both COD4 and Halo3 together. Over 10 million subscribers.
WoW is the worst FPS since Final Fantasy XII.
 
growlf Aug 15, 2008 02:25 PM
Warhawk
Quote, Originally Posted by mattyb (Post 3706904)
Nuf said.
Actually, while I certainly appreciate Call of Duty 4 and its trouncing of Halo 3, I would like to offer up Warhawk as a wonderfully manly game as well. Every time I play Warhawk, I can't stop asking WHY Halo 3 wins awards?

Warhawk offers an online battle on an epic (for a VG) scale... way beyond what Halo 3 dishes out.

http://www.warhawk.com/
 
::maroma:: Aug 15, 2008 02:31 PM
PS3 only... bleh!
 
Jawbone54 Aug 15, 2008 02:43 PM
I don't know why, but I can't convince myself to pick up Warhawk.
 
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