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The Final Dakar Apr 8, 2013 04:34 PM
Joystick Layout - Symmetrical vs. Asymmetrical
Part of my reluctance to jump on the PS4 bandwagon (aside from, you know, not actually knowing anything about the next XBOX) is the controller. First thre triggers, but after that, the joystick layout. So I put it to you, NN, where do your preferences lie? With the left joystick in the top left spot, center stage as it were, or with the left joystick at the bottom of the controller, mirror opposite to the right?
 
sek929 Apr 8, 2013 05:27 PM
I'm obviously a bit biased towards my beloved 360 controller, but even after playing World at War on a PS3 for many hour I got very used to those joysticks as well.

What I really don't like are the triggers, this is one area the PS controller has always annoyed me. If it came down to just the joysticks, however, they wouldn't be enough to sway me away from the PS4.
 
mattyb Apr 9, 2013 11:49 AM
As someone who went from keyboard + mouse FPS playing to an Xbox, I reckon that it'll take you about (max) 2 months to get used to the change. You already know how to play with a controller, you just have to adjust your muscle movement a bit.

I'd like to see a rifle controller for BF4, like Killzone has.
 
The Final Dakar Apr 9, 2013 11:53 AM
Quote, Originally Posted by mattyb (Post 4225398)
As someone who went from keyboard + mouse FPS playing to an Xbox, I reckon that it'll take you about (max) 2 months to get used to the change. You already know how to play with a controller, you just have to adjust your muscle movement a bit.

I'd like to see a rifle controller for BF4, like Killzone has.
Motion control? Get out.

I suppose this thread illustrates a weakness of mine. I am famously poor at adapting to controls. Switching between games and such has always been a chore that takes time to adjust. I started the gen on the old GoldenEye legacy stick layout and it took wanting to play BioShock to finally convert over to what is considered standard. A lot of walking to walls and poor reflexes for a while, though.
 
sek929 Apr 9, 2013 03:17 PM
I complain more about the concave vs. convex tops of the joysticks. I find my fingers slip off the PS3 sticks easier, but the PS4 controller appears to have gone more towards the concave style of the Xbox controllers.
 
boy8cookie Apr 14, 2013 06:18 PM
No Mouse+keyboard option?
 
The Final Dakar Apr 15, 2013 10:24 AM
There's joysticks on keyboard/mouse?
 
The Final Dakar Apr 15, 2013 10:25 AM
Weird, no one voted for PS3 and I know we have a decent amount of PS3 owners on here.
 
boy8cookie Apr 15, 2013 09:11 PM
Quote, Originally Posted by The Final Dakar (Post 4226193)
There's joysticks on keyboard/mouse?
Yep. I have a mouse with 3 joysticks. I'll find a link... it's some off-brand "3D mouse."
 
The Final Dakar Apr 16, 2013 08:57 AM
You have my curiosity.
 
boy8cookie Apr 16, 2013 04:25 PM
Sandio Technology - 3D Input Technology and Makers of the 3D Mouse

Unfortunately, no mac driver... They gave me one for free at an expo, said they were working on a Mac driver. That was like 2 years ago.
 
subego Apr 16, 2013 08:23 PM
Dual Shock is my favorite controller ever, though I'll agree the triggers blow.

I have small hands, so that may factor into it.
 
subego Apr 16, 2013 08:25 PM
Y'all invert the Y-Axis? Can't play without doing that.
 
mattyb Apr 18, 2013 06:27 AM
Quote, Originally Posted by subego (Post 4226449)
Y'all invert the Y-Axis? Can't play without doing that.
No thats for weirdos.
 
The Final Dakar Apr 18, 2013 09:08 AM
Quote, Originally Posted by subego (Post 4226449)
Y'all invert the Y-Axis? Can't play without doing that.
Like jet plane controls? Hells to the yeah.
 
subego Apr 18, 2013 05:15 PM
You kids and your fancy jet planes.

In my day we had to glue feathers to wax.
 
subego Apr 18, 2013 07:12 PM
In that vein, I'm curious why those who use inverted Y do so.

For me, it actually is an age issue. Flight sims were the first 3D games, so I was trained to think in those terms before free look existed.
 
sek929 Apr 19, 2013 10:21 PM
I assume Dakar's reason is similar, he's an old fossil that couldn't adapt to the proper control scheme.
 
subego Apr 19, 2013 10:32 PM
 
mattyb Apr 21, 2013 12:26 PM
Must admit that I had trouble going from flying the choppers in BF3 to being a gunner. But, even at my age, I can adapt and overcome.
 
exca1ibur Apr 21, 2013 01:29 PM
I ONLY use inverted when flying games and standard for camera movement.
 
The Final Dakar Apr 21, 2013 05:08 PM
Quote, Originally Posted by sek929 (Post 4226886)
I assume Dakar's reason is similar, he's an old fossil that couldn't adapt to the proper control scheme.
Whoa, whoa, whoa. If inverted is the default this gen, I have not noticed. Also, proper my ass.
 
The Final Dakar Apr 22, 2013 10:05 AM
Quote, Originally Posted by boy8cookie (Post 4226420)
Sandio Technology - 3D Input Technology and Makers of the 3D Mouse

Unfortunately, no mac driver... They gave me one for free at an expo, said they were working on a Mac driver. That was like 2 years ago.
That's rather unique. Still, this is about peeps who use controllers.
 
subego Apr 22, 2013 05:59 PM
Who likes pushing the stick in as a "button"?

I'm way too much of a spaz for that to be of any utility, and it's often actively harmful.
 
Stogieman Apr 22, 2013 06:49 PM
I don't. That damn push stick button screws me over in Halo all the time.
 
mattyb Apr 24, 2013 07:42 AM
Quote, Originally Posted by subego (Post 4227260)
Who likes pushing the stick in as a "button"?
I fail at that time and time again.
 
The Final Dakar Apr 24, 2013 12:19 PM
A good percentage of my CQ deaths in BF3 come from me pressing the right joystick too hard in surprise, causing my soldier to go prone (during which i can't fire).
 
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