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turtle777 Oct 5, 2013 08:45 PM
Lightning car charger + audio out
I don't understand why this is so complicated to find, does it even exist ?

I'm looking for a CLA (car charger) that also has an 3.5mm audio out port to connect to the car stereo.

The only thing I could find is this:

http://img.dxcdn.com/productimages/sku_230850_1.jpg

However, this won't work with any iPhone case / sleeve. I need something that has just a Lightning cable end.

It's absolutely amazing that this doesn't seem to exist. Any ideas / recommendations ?

-t
 
turtle777 Oct 5, 2013 09:02 PM
I'm looking for something like this, just with Lightning adapter:

http://blog.xtrememac.com/wp-content...s-high-res.jpg

http://www.xtrememac.com/en-US/produ...arge-auto-aux/

-t
 
subego Oct 5, 2013 09:21 PM
I'd say "**** it" and get a 30-pin to Lightning jobby.
 
turtle777 Oct 5, 2013 09:25 PM
Quote, Originally Posted by subego (Post 4251352)
I'd say "**** it" and get a 30-pin to Lightning jobby.
Jobby ? Are you talking about the adapters ?

I have those, but they don't work with cases because the adapter is flush against the phone.

My only other solution would be the Apple Lightning to 30-pin Adapter (0.2 m) cable, and then use my old 30pin audio adapter.

-t
 
subego Oct 5, 2013 09:42 PM
Gotcha. I go caseless, so I've never had a problem with the adapter jobby.
 
subego Oct 5, 2013 09:44 PM
You know they were going to make one which worked with cases, but then Jony curbstomped whoever came up with it.
 
turtle777 Oct 5, 2013 09:49 PM
Quote, Originally Posted by subego (Post 4251358)
Gotcha. I go caseless, so I've never had a problem with the adapter jobby.
I went caseless for one year with the 5. It got scratched quite a bit, and the sides of the bezel are worn off. I typically pass on my 1 year old phone to my wife, and after another year, it gets unlocked and sold. Therefore, less scratches would be desirable. Plus, the new leather cases do look nice.

-t
 
subego Oct 5, 2013 10:18 PM
Mine survived well. Couple of small dings on the bezel and some barely visible scratches on the glass. We'll see whether Gazelle agrees.

However, I have a strictly enforced "nothing goes in the phone pocket except the phone" policy.

I was going to hand-off my old 5, but that person isn't planning on leaving AT&T, so they'd be shooting themselves in the foot by not getting their own 5s with the Gazelle money.
 
subego Oct 6, 2013 04:13 AM
My 5s already has similar micro-scratches BTW...

SCRATCHGATE!
 
Spheric Harlot Oct 6, 2013 06:48 AM
I cannot believe that there are no iPhone 5/s car mounts that do power and audio.
 
turtle777 Oct 6, 2013 09:36 AM
Quote, Originally Posted by Spheric Harlot (Post 4251386)
I cannot believe that there are no iPhone 5/s car mounts that do power and audio.
Well, after hours of googling, I found exactly *one* car mount. It's a Frankenstein for $70.

http://www.belkin.com/images/productmt/656197/372.jpg

I don't need that freaking arm that holds the iPhone up. I have a perfectly working dash mount.

-t
 
Spheric Harlot Oct 6, 2013 09:45 AM
And that ****ing thing doesn't even DO audio. It still requires you to plug into the headphone port, which defeats part of the point of having a cradle you can just pop the phone into.

Sorry to hijack your thread, but I'm looking for something to replace my TOmTom cradle, which held, charged, and just had a simple mini jack on the side that I have connected to the stereo.

The 5s won't fit that.
 
turtle777 Oct 6, 2013 10:01 AM
The Frankenstein unit does provide audio out - that's what the cable with the 3.5mm jack is for.

TuneBase« Hands-Free AUX for iPhone 5 | In-Car | Lightning | Products | Belkin USA Site

However, this is still BS. The whole concept of an arm held by the CLA is just plain stupid.

-t
 
turtle777 Oct 6, 2013 10:05 AM
Quote, Originally Posted by Spheric Harlot (Post 4251389)
The 5s won't fit that.
One of the issues I have with many cradles is that they don't work with any cases.

So if you want to have a cradle that can adjust to a case, you can never have a Lightning port that automatically connects to the iPhone.

The plus side of flexible cradles: they don't care about what phone you have.
I have been using one like this for the past 5 years, and it's still working.

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/...aL._SX300_.jpg

-t
 
Spheric Harlot Oct 6, 2013 10:30 AM
Quote, Originally Posted by turtle777 (Post 4251390)
The Frankenstein unit does provide audio out - that's what the cable with the 3.5mm jack is for.

TuneBase´┐Ż Hands-Free AUX for iPhone 5 | In-Car | Lightning | Products | Belkin USA Site
Doesn't the Belkin just grab the audio from the headphone jack, and NOT through the Lightning connector?

In which case, the only reason to go through the Belkin at all is to allow it to inject the mic signal into the headphone port for hands-free, which I neither want nor need. Otherwise, I could just get a generic cradle and plug the 3.5mm cable into the headphone jack.

I need something that will hold my phone, charge it, and give me line-level output, without me having to plug something in before I mount it. No more, no less.
 
P Oct 6, 2013 12:27 PM
I use this. The audio goes over Bluetooth from the phone, but that's just an advantage in my book. If I need to charge it, I use the regular USB-to-lightning or 30-pin with the provided port.
 
Spheric Harlot Oct 6, 2013 12:50 PM
I have pretty specific needs, I guess.

Calls run through a Jawbone ERA, and that will stay that way. I hate having calls routed through a car stereo, whether I'm the one making the call or (arguably worse) just along for the ride.

Anything that has a 3.5mm cable permanently attached is a kludge, because my car stereo's Aux in is at the rear of the radio, running through a proprietary Blaupunkt plug. That can be fixed, though (I have no problem using a m-to-f adapter or soldering another plug onto the cable), if everything else is perfect.

Is it possible to route calls through one Bluetooth device, and music through another?
 
P Oct 6, 2013 03:50 PM
I don't know with multiple Bluetooth connections, but in general you can move the call from Bluetooth to a wired handsfree or the phone itself.
 
P Oct 6, 2013 04:03 PM
Quote, Originally Posted by turtle777 (Post 4251350)
I don't understand why this is so complicated to find, does it even exist ?
I think accessory makers are moving from 30-pin to Bluetooth rather than to Lightning. iPhones work well with Bluetooth, and you get the Android market as well.
 
turtle777 Oct 6, 2013 04:17 PM
Yeah, the bad thing is, you need a fairly recent car that supports Bluetooth audio.

-t
 
P Oct 6, 2013 04:29 PM
No, that's the point about the adapter I posted. It plugs into the line in in the car and uses Bluetooth to the phone.
 
turtle777 Oct 6, 2013 04:33 PM
Oh, wait, let me check that out.

-t
 
turtle777 Oct 6, 2013 04:37 PM
Quote, Originally Posted by P (Post 4251417)
No, that's the point about the adapter I posted. It plugs into the line in in the car and uses Bluetooth to the phone.
Does it remember to automatically connect, or do you have to manually tell the iPhone to connect every time ?

-t
 
P Oct 6, 2013 04:58 PM
You place a big button somewhere on your dash (it is also the microphone for when you make a call). To connect after the power has been off, you push the button once to reconnect to the last device connected. This is by design, because the iPhone will automatically start playing the last thing played when it reconnects. In practice, it works well. If you want to play something off the phone, set the stereo to AUX and push the button once. If there is a call, push the button again to take the call. If there is a call and you are not connected, switch the stereo to AUX and press the button. It will connect and answer the call. This takes a few seconds, but it works the same otherwise.
 
turtle777 Oct 6, 2013 06:35 PM
Thanks. This might be a real option.

-t
 
turtle777 Oct 6, 2013 11:41 PM
Amazon reviews are good. I'm giving it a spin. Thanks again.

-t
 
P Oct 7, 2013 03:29 AM
Good luck. I'm using mine a lot, it's a real improvement over plugging in that cable every time even if I'm not getting phone calls.
 
turtle777 Oct 12, 2013 03:14 PM
Got my Belkin BT adapter. First impression: good.

Audio quality playing music is very good. I like how you can start / stop playing music by pressing the button. I don't even have to remove my phone from my pocket if I just want to reconnect and listen to the last item played.

However, downside: audio quality for phone calls is really bad. A lot of distortion. Doesn't matter too much for me, since I don't need the hands-free functionality very often.

-t
 
P Oct 12, 2013 05:44 PM
Glad you like it. What do you mean about distortion, what you hear or what the other person hears? The second sounds like you might have a bad mic.

Note: two pushes means skip to the next song, three means go back one. The rhythm for doing it is tricky, though - it's a fairly slow rhythm.
 
turtle777 Oct 12, 2013 07:29 PM
Quote, Originally Posted by P (Post 4252393)
Glad you like it. What do you mean about distortion, what you hear or what the other person hears? The second sounds like you might have a bad mic.
Oddly enough, even Siri voice was distorted. This might be partially iOS 7 fault, I noticed how Siri voice quality via BlueTooth has gotten worse in general.

I probably have to do multiple calls and see how it compares.
But as I said, I don't really need that feature all that much.

-t
 
Spheric Harlot Oct 13, 2013 06:16 AM
Siri and hands-free calling sound fine and do not distort on my Jawbone ERA headset.
 
P Oct 13, 2013 03:53 PM
Odd. Phonecalls sound fine to me.
 
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