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esMan Dec 24, 2012 04:10 AM
New SSD: Samsung or OCZ Vector?
Hi,

I need help in purchasing a ssd hard drive for a New Macbook Pro that I will be purchasing shortly. I can't decide btw Samsung 830 or the recently release OCZ Vector. I am interested in getting the 128 gbs size. The two drives got great reviews. Any suggestions? I am interested in hearing from current owners of either of these two drives.

Your comments will be very appreciated.

Thanks,
 
Shaddim Dec 24, 2012 04:39 AM
Do not buy OCZ, ever. Their QC is horrid, as is their customer service. I've had the best luck with Intel, but Samsung drives are robust as well.
 
Pao|o Dec 24, 2012 09:19 AM
I would go with a Samsung 840 if you are planning to use it for less than a decade.

If you do use it for a decade I salute you! :)
 
jmiddel Dec 24, 2012 07:31 PM
Yes. avoid ocz. Samsung Intel and Kingston seem to get the best reviews.
 
mduell Dec 25, 2012 05:33 PM
Samsung 840
 
jmiddel Dec 26, 2012 03:59 PM
:thumbsup:
 
OreoCookie Dec 26, 2012 05:52 PM
I'd either go with an Intel 330 series SSD or with a Samsung, preferably the 840 series.
 
billmboy Dec 28, 2012 11:06 AM
Look at what OWC ( Macsale.com ) has to offer here
http://eshop.macsales.com/shop/SSD/OWC/

The have great support.
 
Bobbo Dec 28, 2012 12:26 PM
I read a bunch of reviews on many ssd's and it was down to Samsung and OCZ. I got a deal on an OCZ 250. Then I started to read horror stories about fails. I installed it in my late 2011 MBP 15" and converted the existing 750G drive into an external/bootable drive. I booted off the external and formatted the ssd then loaded it using Time Machine. With trepidation I fired up the new ssd. It worked fine and I have had no trouble with it for months now. I DID follow directions VERY closely. YMMV, but the OCZ has worked great for me and makes that i7 MBP scream.
 
mduell Dec 28, 2012 01:39 PM
Quote, Originally Posted by billmboy (Post 4209244)
Look at what OWC ( Macsale.com ) has to offer here
http://eshop.macsales.com/shop/SSD/OWC/
The have great support.
They have terrible prices for off the shelf hardware.
 
James Katt Dec 30, 2012 09:05 AM
The Samsung 840 is set to fail faster than the 830 SSD. This is why it costs much less than the 830 SSD. For ultimate in reliability I recommend the OWComputing SSDs. No other brand is higher in quality.
 
James Katt Dec 30, 2012 09:10 AM
Quote, Originally Posted by mduell (Post 4209270)
They have terrible prices for off the shelf hardware.
You're talking about SSDs to feed your Mac and you're being cheap. Realize that SSDs fail suddenly and catastrophically without warning, unlike hard drives. Thus for peace of mind and data security, you have to backup your SSD much more regularly than a hard drive. And you have to buy the most reliable ones - which are from OWC. Yes they have slightly higher prices. But like Macs vs PCs, the prices are highly competitive compared to the best SSDs from Samsung and other competitors. For example, the Samsung 830 is about the same price as the OWC version. Thus I would rather buy the more reliable and compatible OWC version.
 
CharlesS Dec 30, 2012 01:02 PM
You're joking, right? Those OWC drives are just using a stock SandForce controller. They're no different from OCZ or any of the other generic SandForce drives on the market. They're certainly not more reliable than high-end brands such as Samsung, Crucial, etc.
 
Shaddim Dec 30, 2012 01:29 PM
Quote, Originally Posted by CharlesS (Post 4209486)
You're joking, right? Those OWC drives are just using a stock SandForce controller. They're no different from OCZ or any of the other generic SandForce drives on the market. They're certainly not more reliable than high-end brands such as Samsung, Crucial, etc.
I think they're worse, because OCZ's ratings are worse than other makers' SF drives. Maybe they're using lower bin parts, I dunno.

Stick with Intel or Samsung.
 
mduell Dec 30, 2012 09:05 PM
The higher failure rate of OCZ SF drives is probably due to firmware development. Given their performance angle, I wouldn't be surprised if they're developing for performance moreso than reliability.


Quote, Originally Posted by James Katt (Post 4209466)
You're talking about SSDs to feed your Mac and you're being cheap. Realize that SSDs fail suddenly and catastrophically without warning, unlike hard drives. Thus for peace of mind and data security, you have to backup your SSD much more regularly than a hard drive. And you have to buy the most reliable ones - which are from OWC. Yes they have slightly higher prices. But like Macs vs PCs, the prices are highly competitive compared to the best SSDs from Samsung and other competitors. For example, the Samsung 830 is about the same price as the OWC version. Thus I would rather buy the more reliable and compatible OWC version.
Are you the new face of OWC on MacNN?

OWC was cute in the days of G4 upgrades.
 
jmiddel Dec 31, 2012 03:10 PM
Quote, Originally Posted by mduell (Post 4209507)
OWC was cute in the days of G4 upgrades.
Oh yes, those were the good old days, when you could upgrade the 'daughterboard' (cpu). And everything else.
 
Shaddim Dec 31, 2012 03:21 PM
Quote, Originally Posted by jmiddel (Post 4209617)
Oh yes, those were the good old days, when you could upgrade the 'daughterboard' (cpu). And everything else.
I still use my upgraded Cube. It runs 9.2.2 very well.
 
P Jan 6, 2013 04:30 PM
OCZs return rates are partially due to the transition to 25nm flash. OCZ quietly switched some drives to 25nm flash, and in the uproar of lower performance at certain capacities, offered to replace them with older 34nm drives. This meant that the return rate went up, but that was not due to drive failures. The OCZ Sandforce drives fail as often as any other Sandforce drives. Right now they're not using Sandforce controllers at all, and likely won't be (Sandforce was bought by LSI, and OCZ bought Indilinx, and everyone is transitioning to using "their own" controllers rather than buying ready products).
 
comdoc Jan 25, 2013 11:04 PM
I'm with Bobbo on Samsung and OCZ. Have decided to buy Samsung 840 Pro because it uses 2bit cells (more reliable), has a 5 year warranty, and is also fast. Expensive, 256GB is $227.49 with free shipping, but may be worth it.

Amazon.com: Samsung Electronics 840 Pro Series 2.5-Inch 256 GB SATA 6GB/s Solid State Drive MZ-7PD256BW: Computers & Accessories
 
cgc Jan 26, 2013 07:32 AM
How's the Crucial M4 compare? Looking at specs and reviews it seems comparable to the Samsung 840 to me.
 
mduell Jan 26, 2013 03:20 PM
They don't deliver the same IOPS, but it hardly matters, and they're wonderfully cheap.
 
Hawkeye_a Jan 26, 2013 05:16 PM
I picked up an Intel SSD for my first gen unibody, about a year ago. They are a bit pricy(i got mine on special), but i've heard that they are more reliable.
 
CharlesS Jan 26, 2013 06:55 PM
Quote, Originally Posted by cgc (Post 4213843)
How's the Crucial M4 compare? Looking at specs and reviews it seems comparable to the Samsung 840 to me.
They're not as fast, but they're very reliable and have fantastic support.
 
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