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starman Feb 12, 2007 03:41 PM
What was the first "rap" song?
I'm listening to "Rapture" from Blondie - 1979. Was this the first rap song? I don't remember rap being what we know it now until a few years later.
 
Velocity211 Feb 12, 2007 03:49 PM
rapper's delight? also from 1979
 
Severed Hand of Skywalker Feb 12, 2007 03:51 PM
Well I don't know about first but the first to get on the top 10 charts might be:

Can't touch this or maybe Backbone slide?
 
OAW Feb 12, 2007 03:57 PM
Rapper's Delight by the Sugarhill Gang in 1979 is generally recognized as the first rap song. At least the first with widespread radio play.

OAW
 
starman Feb 12, 2007 04:02 PM
Ok, I was wrong about the year "Rapture" came out. It was 11/80, not 1979.

However, from
Blondie (band) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"Rapture" was the first song containing elements of rap music vocals to reach number one in the U.S. and helped introduce the then underground rap genre to a larger audience.

I do remember Rapper's Delight, but I thought it was out a year after Rapture.
 
BlueSky Feb 12, 2007 04:22 PM
I'm looking forward to the last rap song.
 
kc311v2 Feb 12, 2007 04:38 PM
You won't live that long.
 
turtle777 Feb 12, 2007 05:22 PM
Quote, Originally Posted by BlueSky (Post 3300171)
I'm looking forward to the last rap song.
:lol:

-t
 
macintologist Feb 12, 2007 05:42 PM
The first REAL rap album was "The Chronic" by Dr DRE. Everything before that sounds a little too rudimentary or soft to be considered true gangsta rap.
 
Jim Paradise Feb 12, 2007 05:56 PM
King Tim III (Personality Jock) by the Fatback Band.
 
::maroma:: Feb 12, 2007 05:59 PM
Quote, Originally Posted by macintologist (Post 3300268)
The first REAL rap album was "The Chronic" by Dr DRE. Everything before that sounds a little too rudimentary or soft to be considered true gangsta rap.
So gangsta rap is real rap?

Anyways, yes Rapper's Delight is recognized as the first rap song to reach any sort of popularity.
 
El Gato Feb 12, 2007 06:01 PM
Quote, Originally Posted by OAW
Rapper's Delight by the Sugarhill Gang in 1979 is generally recognized as the first rap song. At least the first with widespread radio play.
What about Grandmaster Flash's "The Message" - I thought that was considered the first.
 
ort888 Feb 12, 2007 06:26 PM
From wiki...

The main historical eras of hip hop are the old school hip hop era (1970 to 1985), which spanned from the beginning of hip hop until its emergence into the mainstream, and the golden age hip hop era (1985 to 1993), which consolidated the sounds of the East Coast and the West Coast and transitioned into the modern era with the rise of gangsta rap and G-funk, created by the West Coast. The years after 1993 contain the hardcore hip hop, bling, and underground genres, which largely define the modern era.
Hip hop arose during the 1970s at block parties in New York City, at which the DJs began isolating the percussion breaks to hit funk, soul, R&B and disco songs. The roots of this type of songs stem back to the mid-1950s when soul/funk rock artist James Brown credit Little Richard's band as having been the first to put the funk in the rock beat. These songs were based on – "breakbeat" DJing. As hip hop became popular, performers began speaking while the music played, and became known as MCs or emcees. In 1979, the first commercially issued hip hop recordings were released: "Rapper's Delight" by The Sugarhill Gang which became a Top 40 hit on the U.S. Billboard pop singles chart. 'Rapper' in reference to music was actually coined by this song. Some historians cite King Tim III (Personality Jock) by the Fatback Band to be the first commercially released hip hop recording but they were a funk and disco group.
During the 1980s, hip hop began to diversify and develop into a more complex form. At the same time, more sophisticated techniques were developed, including scratching, and electronic recording. In the late 1980s, a number of new hip hop styles and subgenres began appearing as the genre gained popularity. Hip hop musicians collaborated with rock bands and spread out into the genres of conscious hip hop, jazz-rap and gangsta rap.
In the 1990s, a prolonged confrontation between West Coast gangsta rappers and the resurging East Coast began. It centered around Tupac Shakur and The Notorious B.I.G. and led to both of their deaths, in 1996 and 1997 respectively. In 1996, Cleveland-based rap group Bone Thugs-N-Harmony tied The Beatles' 32-year-old record for fastest-rising single with "Tha Crossroads," and in 2000, Scottish-American White rapper Eminem's The Marshall Mathers LP sold over nine million copies and won a Grammy Award.
 
IceEnclosure Feb 12, 2007 06:30 PM
Top 10?? Who gives a crap. Gangster rap? Gangster rap came well over a decade after rap was introduced.

Go watch WildStyle or Style Wars you numbskulls. Beat Street even.
 
OAW Feb 12, 2007 06:32 PM
Quote, Originally Posted by El Gato (Post 3300286)
What about Grandmaster Flash's "The Message" - I thought that was considered the first.
That would be 1982! Another classic though. :)

OAW
 
Face Ache Feb 12, 2007 06:41 PM
Lou Reed's "Take a walk on the wild side" (1974).
 
Sub Feb 12, 2007 06:43 PM
Quote, Originally Posted by BlueSky (Post 3300171)
I'm looking forward to the last rap song.
Nice, me too.
 
Face Ache Feb 12, 2007 06:45 PM
Bob Dylan's "Subterranean Homesick Blues" (1965)
 
Severed Hand of Skywalker Feb 12, 2007 06:47 PM
Rap was awesome in the 80's as it was fun as they sang about going to the principles office or break-dancing at a friends house party. Then by the mid 90's it got to be all about shootn' disrespecting niggas and smacking hoes.
 
Stogieman Feb 12, 2007 06:50 PM
Quote, Originally Posted by IceEnclosure (Post 3300321)
Go watch WildStyle or Style Wars you numbskulls. Beat Street even.
Don't forget "Breakin' 2 - Electric Boogaloo" featuring Ice-T. :D
 
Face Ache Feb 12, 2007 07:02 PM
The Diamonds "Little Darlin'" (1957).
 
wataru Feb 12, 2007 07:07 PM
Quote, Originally Posted by Sub (Post 3300339)
Nice, me too.
It's one thing to dislike a genre of music, and another thing to wish for its demise. You must be one intolerant asshole.
 
Sub Feb 12, 2007 07:23 PM
I think we all know the real reason why your calling me an intolerant asshole, and it's not because of music. :p
 
wataru Feb 12, 2007 08:24 PM
Quote, Originally Posted by Sub (Post 3300391)
I think we all know the real reason why your calling me an intolerant asshole, and it's not because of music. :p
Actually if you look at the times of my posts, yes, I called you an intolerant asshole about music first. Only afterwards did I realize you were an intolerant asshole about other things too.
 
LegendaryPinkOx Feb 12, 2007 09:10 PM
Quote, Originally Posted by Face Ache (Post 3300345)
Bob Dylan's "Subterranean Homesick Blues" (1965)
Also "It's Alright, Ma (I'm Only Bleeding)" from the same album.

Pointed threats, they bluff with scorn
Suicide remarks are torn
From the fool's gold mouthpiece
The hollow horn plays wasted words Proves to warn
That he not busy being born
Is busy dying.

Werd Bob!
 
Face Ache Feb 12, 2007 09:40 PM
Sly Stone's "Thank You (Falettinme Be Mice Elf Agin)" (1970)

Curtis Mayfield's "Pusherman" (1972)
 
Atomic Rooster Feb 12, 2007 09:51 PM
'Ringo' by Lorne Greene. Long freaking time ago.

Or how bout George Burns. He was a rapper.
 
Buckaroo Feb 12, 2007 10:31 PM
I remember back in the early or mid 70's there was a song about Vietnam that I thought was rap.
 
Dark Helmet Feb 12, 2007 10:34 PM
Quote, Originally Posted by Buckaroo (Post 3300553)
I remember back in the early or mid 70's there was a song about Vietnam that I thought was rap.
Sucky sucky, me love you long time?
 
Buckaroo Feb 12, 2007 10:40 PM
Quote, Originally Posted by Dark Helmet (Post 3300556)
Sucky sucky, me love you long time?
Noooo. There were no Vietnamees singing. It was american. I recall it kept saying 19, the average age of an American soldier 19.
 
Buckaroo Feb 12, 2007 10:43 PM
I don't know if this is a remake or the original. It sounds like a remake, but I'm not sure. YouTube - Paul Hardcastle - Nineteen
 
- - e r i k - - Feb 13, 2007 04:12 AM
Not the song you were thinking about, but appropriate:

YouTube - I Was Only 19
 
Face Ache Feb 13, 2007 05:12 AM
Quote, Originally Posted by - - e r i k - - (Post 3300790)
Not the song you were thinking about, but appropriate:

YouTube - I Was Only 19
Gah! Some things shouldn't be rappinated.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=OHbR_W0eIpA

^Original. Better.
 
IceEnclosure Feb 13, 2007 06:27 AM
ahem.. PLEASE PAY ATTENTION:

RIGHT CLICK, SAVE AS:

1979:
http://www.brooklynradio.net//20070205therub.mp3

1980:
http://www.brooklynradio.net//20070212therub.mp3

WELCOME!
 
- - e r i k - - Feb 13, 2007 07:11 AM
Quote, Originally Posted by Face Ache (Post 3300805)
Gah! Some things shouldn't be rappinated.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=OHbR_W0eIpA

^Original. Better.
I dunno. I don't mind that one at all. And apparently Redgum agrees :)
 
Sky Captain Feb 13, 2007 09:49 AM
My wife says Frank Zappa was the original rapper.
 
GFitzy Feb 13, 2007 12:45 PM
Quote, Originally Posted by Sky Captain (Post 3300906)
My wife says Frank Zappa was the original rapper.
"Now is that a real poncho or is that a Sears poncho? "

:p
 
cespilot Feb 18, 2007 10:17 PM
First Rap song
Nobody here is even close.
The first rap song is "Walk This Way" by Aerosmith
1975 Toys In The Attic.
 
cespilot Feb 18, 2007 10:19 PM
Nope...Aerosmith... Walk This Way 1975
 
cespilot Feb 18, 2007 10:20 PM
Nope.
Aerosmith...Walk This Way...1975
 
- - e r i k - - Feb 19, 2007 12:04 AM
:lol:

Way to check your facts there squire:
Quote
In addition to being one of the songs that helped break Aerosmith into the mainstream in the 1970s, it also helped resurrect their career and revolutionized rock and roll and hip hop music when it was re-made in 1986 with rappers Run-D.M.C. on their album Raising Hell. It became an international hit and won both groups a Soul Train Music Award for Best Rap - Single in 1987.
 
P-Jamm Mar 2, 2007 01:58 PM
King Tim III (Personality Jock) was the first Rap song for the history books!
The history making first ever rap record/song was King Tim III (Personality Jock) done by Rap pioneer Mr. Tim Washington from New York in 1979 Music by The Fatback Band. You can impress folks by explaining to them that only educated musicologists know that King Tim III (Personality Jock) was the first rap song... So many are clueless about this fact in music history. I see some people write stupid articles saying that it was a recording from a non rap group? He is a rapper with backup music from a soul/funk group, so what? This is nothing new in the industry. Rappers Delight released months later was not the first rap song/record regardless of it's commercial success at that time. Many would like to dismiss this fact,but you cannot change music history! I was in high school when all the early rap hits came out. I was there ,and lived through the birth of Hip hop. It was a fun time!
 
P-Jamm Mar 2, 2007 02:11 PM
Early Hip Hop was Raw
 
P-Jamm Mar 2, 2007 02:22 PM
King Tim 3rd
The Fatback Band provided the music for King Tim III (KING TIM the THIRD) Rapper who was not a member of the band. The same way Chic provided the music sample "Good Times" for the Sugarhill Gang
KING TIM III

Picture link below of the rap pioneer:
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/137/4...f281fe06_o.jpg
 
hayesk Mar 3, 2007 05:44 PM
Quote, Originally Posted by Face Ache (Post 3300805)
Gah! Some things shouldn't be rappinated.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=OHbR_W0eIpA

^Original. Better.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byCCmBwRjGw

:P
 
Rock On Jul 25, 2012 08:23 PM
Frank Zappa...Don't Eat the Yellow Snow. Good tunes and good times!

I remember lots of good tunes with various twists and turns on rap music. There does exist many different styles of RAP from various artists throughout decades of music history. Everyone has their own taste in music and according to our US constitution we have the right to our opinion. Thank the stars above for the right to listen to the music we like. Just keep in mind, the freedom to choose what we like should never be put down; respect the choice of others to choose their own style. I do respect yours :)
 
Spheric Harlot Jul 25, 2012 11:27 PM
Appropriate link (START READING AT THE BOTTOM):

http://boingboing.net/2012/04/17/brain-rot-hip-hop-family-tree-16.html
 
Chongo Jul 26, 2012 04:29 AM
Quote, Originally Posted by - - e r i k - - (Post 3300790)
Not the song you were thinking about, but appropriate:

YouTube - I Was Only 19
This may be the one .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJetZ-x1YaU
 
Chongo Jul 26, 2012 04:32 AM
Luke The Drifter (Hank Williams Sr.) was the first!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1QhVghiddM
 
BadKosh Jul 26, 2012 05:00 AM
Long John Baldry - Don't try to lay no Boogie Woogie on the King of Rock n Roll.


Step Right Up - Tom Waits
 
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