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subego Nov 2, 2013 01:42 AM
WTF, Toronto?
Is your mayor smoking crack or not? Make up your mind.
Ω Nov 2, 2013 01:46 AM
Crack is whack
subego Nov 2, 2013 02:05 AM
Phileas Nov 2, 2013 02:07 PM
Hands off our stash.
Shaddim Nov 2, 2013 04:02 PM
He could always run against Barry in DC.
ShortcutToMoncton Nov 2, 2013 07:21 PM
He's basically driven Toronto's already-struggling right-wing political movement into the ditch at full speed

You almost would believe the full story if you read it.
subego Nov 2, 2013 07:36 PM
The key details of the story I'm interested in is the part between "mayor" and "smoking crack".
turtle777 Nov 2, 2013 08:53 PM
Uhm, the part between "mayor" and "smoking crack" ?

* "IS"
* "WAS"


----> ;)

lpkmckenna Nov 2, 2013 10:11 PM
When the story first appeared in The Toronto Star and Gawker, I had no doubt in my mind it was true. Rob Ford behaved like a guilty man by refusing to answer questions, hiding from the media, firing staffers without public explanation, and being a whiny b!tch non-stop.

The worst of it isn't that he was smoking crack or hanging out with shady people, it's the way he characterized the issue as a witch hunt, demonizing "the media" and "the left wingers" as if they were the only ones with a concern about what was going on in the mayor's office.

And now, he still refuses to address the media or answer any questions. And his lawyer is behaving like a twit as well, claiming "we can't know it was crack he was smoking," as if anyone in their right mind would believe he might be smoking tobacco or pot from a crack pipe. :roll eyes:
besson3c Nov 2, 2013 11:51 PM
Why doesn't he just admit to taking crack, but that he no longer is?
lpkmckenna Nov 3, 2013 07:14 AM
Rob Ford is the type of man who never admits a mistake until he's embarrassed with hard proof.

BTW, Ford and his brother broadcast a weekly radio show every Sunday, and tonight he's planning some kind of big announcement. I wouldn't be surprised if he announces that he's stepping down "for the good of the city."

There won't be an apology, he won't admit to lying, he won't admit to anything, he'll just claim the legal "persecution" is making it hard to be mayor. He'll bash the liberals, the leftists, and the media as usual.

Just look at the last time Ford was caught in a lie about drug and alcohol abuse, and you'll see how he plans to handle things: Rob Ford to Miami cop: 'Take me to jail' - Toronto - CBC News
lpkmckenna Nov 3, 2013 08:06 AM
There's an unfortunate rumor going around that there's a second Rob Ford video in police hands. A sex video. With a very young-looking girl.

There's a reddit thread about it: Second Rob Ford video an alleged sex video : toronto

And a columnist at the Toronto Star says:
But wait. There are two videos, (police chief) Blair revealed at his shocking press conference.

What’s on the other one? Are we not to know? Because a few reporters have already been told by sources what its contents might be.

If true, believe me, you ain’t seen nothing yet.
I was giddy when the crack story came out. But I hope this other story isn't true.

BTW, the police have requested an interview with Rob Ford. So far, he has refused to talk to them. Which is not surprising, since he refuses to talk to anyone who isn't a "Ford Nation" bootlicker.
lpkmckenna Nov 3, 2013 06:10 PM
Rob Ford apologizes for 'mistakes' but won't step down - Toronto - CBC News

First rule of making an admission: be specific. Telling people you "made mistakes" is just being insincere. (At least he didn't say "mistakes were made.")

Quote, Originally Posted by Mayor McCrack
"And first of all, I believe that this video, I want the police chief, Bill Blair, to release this video for every single person in this city to see. That is the right thing to do and chief, I am asking you to release this video now."
Both Ford and his lawyer have said this, and both should know better. The chief can't release the video evidence without court approval, as it's relevant to the case against Sandro Lisi. Ford knows this, and he's trying to fool people and garner false sympathy.

And do everyone a favour: don't presume to lecture the police chief on "the right thing to do."

The mayor said the video should be released, so that "whatever this video shows… people need to judge for themselves what they see on this video."
Hey Rob, how about you tell us what YOU think about this video.

"I’m going to do my very best to make sure these mistakes don’t happen again. And I don’t know what else to say."
I and everyone else know exactly what you need to say:

"I did/did not smoke crack from a crack pipe. And I apologize/have no reason to apologize."
subego Nov 3, 2013 09:15 PM
What's this supposed "other" story?
Phileas Nov 3, 2013 10:29 PM
We don't know yet. Rumour has it, it's a sex video. Personally, I don't think that's the case. I don't think women, of any age, are his weakness. Drugs, booze and power on the other hand...
subego Nov 3, 2013 10:33 PM
Which is somehow equal or more damning than smoking crack?

Is it with a child?
OreoCookie Nov 4, 2013 10:27 AM
How come that guy is still in office? I've just passed a few newspaper stands on my way to work and I was surprised about the headlines.
subego Nov 4, 2013 12:05 PM
Do you prefer the Hilbert Chronicle, or the National Hilbert?
The Final Dakar Nov 4, 2013 12:09 PM
I was reading this last week, had a great title in mind over the weekend but it slipped my mind...

The guy is putting a clinic on "Deny, deny, deny."
osiris Nov 4, 2013 12:12 PM
I thought crack went out of fashion. Oh well.
The Final Dakar Nov 4, 2013 12:16 PM
Quote, Originally Posted by subego (Post 4255780)
Do you prefer the Hilbert Chronicle, or the National Hilbert?
Don't forget The Hilbert Times or The Hilbert Post
subego Nov 4, 2013 12:24 PM
Those are rags.
The Final Dakar Nov 4, 2013 12:24 PM
Well, they're certainly no Hilbert Daily.
osiris Nov 4, 2013 01:02 PM
Nor Tyne Daly.
subego Nov 4, 2013 01:24 PM
No Dick Daley?
lpkmckenna Nov 4, 2013 01:28 PM
Quote, Originally Posted by OreoCookie (Post 4255749)
How come that guy is still in office?
There's no mechanism in Canadian municipal politics for removing someone for being a lying douche-canoe. If it doesn't hold up in court, it may as well not exist.
OreoCookie Nov 5, 2013 11:14 AM
Quote, Originally Posted by lpkmckenna (Post 4255800)
There's no mechanism in Canadian municipal politics for removing someone for being a lying douche-canoe. If it doesn't hold up in court, it may as well not exist.
Aren't people from his own party pressuring him to resign?
Phileas Nov 5, 2013 12:13 PM
Quote, Originally Posted by OreoCookie (Post 4255962)
Aren't people from his own party pressuring him to resign?
Yes, but he doesn't have to listen.
lpkmckenna Nov 5, 2013 12:26 PM
Quote, Originally Posted by OreoCookie (Post 4255962)
Aren't people from his own party pressuring him to resign?
You Americans might need to sit down for this. Ready? Here goes....

There are no party politics in Toronto. There are no primaries, there are no party candidates. You vote for ROB FORD, not ROB FORD - CONSERVATIVE.

As far as I'm aware, most of Canadian municipal politics functions in much the same way.

That's not to say candidates aren't easily identified as small-c conservatives, or small-l liberals, or whatever. But there is no "machine," and no party "base" to suck up to.

Yes, it's awesome.

Yes, there are fellow small-c conservatives pressuring Ford to step down. In fact, every paper in Canada, including the conservative National Post and Toronto Sun, are demanding he step down.

And how's this for theatre-of-the-absurd:

The police chief should step down over a video of the mayor smoking a crack-pipe? The fnck?

For outsiders: Mayor Rob Ford is the Fredo of the family, while his brother Doug is Sonny.
The Final Dakar Nov 5, 2013 12:44 PM
lpkmckenna Nov 5, 2013 01:12 PM
“I wasn’t lying. You didn’t ask the correct questions.”

Toronto politics is now a text adventure game from the DOS era.

“I don’t even remember. Probably in one of my drunken stupors. You guys have seen the state I’ve been in.”

I'm not a crack addict. I'm not an alcoholic. But I do drink enough alcohol to make me smoke crack and not remember doing it."

"Never" has become "once." Pretty soon, we'll move up to "occasionally" and then "often."
The Final Dakar Nov 5, 2013 01:13 PM
I love the "probably". I don't remember when, but I feel it likely I was loaded at the time. Just because.
subego Nov 5, 2013 01:14 PM
I always feel bad for morbidly obese crack smokers.
subego Nov 5, 2013 01:15 PM
Quote, Originally Posted by The Final Dakar (Post 4255988)
I love the "probably". I don't remember when, but I feel it likely I was loaded at the time. Just because.
It was social crack smoking.
The Final Shortcut Nov 5, 2013 04:10 PM
OAW Nov 5, 2013 05:23 PM
You smoke crack don't ya!!!???


OreoCookie Nov 5, 2013 07:41 PM
This whole affair is really bizarre.
The Final Shortcut Nov 6, 2013 10:34 AM
Hence the media frenzy...
subego Nov 6, 2013 12:55 PM
I knew there was some way to get Americans to give a shit about what happens in Canada.
Phileas Nov 6, 2013 05:36 PM
You're just jealous.
subego Nov 6, 2013 05:57 PM
Any chance you have others available for export?
subego Nov 8, 2013 01:23 PM
I guess the other video is just him threatening murder while drunk. What a letdown.

Also, I think this belongs here...
besson3c Nov 8, 2013 01:36 PM
subego Nov 8, 2013 01:46 PM
The Final Dakar Nov 8, 2013 01:49 PM
subego Nov 8, 2013 01:56 PM
zro Nov 8, 2013 10:37 PM
Every time I hear about this shit heel mf: [NSFW] ▶ Bicycle Race (promo video, 1978) - YouTube
Phileas Nov 9, 2013 12:45 PM
We need a "making of" video of that video. For, um, educational purposes.
Eug Nov 12, 2013 08:12 AM
kmkkid Nov 12, 2013 08:45 AM
"I smoked crack in one of my drunken stupors, you guys know how many times I have drunken stupors"


Maybe the crack isn't the substantial problem here........

A raging alcoholic mayor, is no better than a crackhead mayor imho.

I hate Ford mainly because he almost single handedly destroyed Toronto Pride a few years ago. No city funding, The mood sucked, and it wasn't festive at all. Worst Pride ever.
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