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If you're claiming that treating the symptoms is... 56,196 Views / 3,493 Replies  
If you're claiming that treating the symptoms is a bad decision, then only one counter-example is sufficient to disprove such a generalization. There are far more that one, of course.


Being too...
Posted by Uncle Skeleton, on Aug 22, 2016 at 01:26 PM, in Political/War Lounge
You said it yourself: it's the only way to make... 56,196 Views / 3,493 Replies  
You said it yourself: it's the only way to make the "winning strategy" switch from pro-murder to anti-murder. If the other such mechanisms are broken, then that makes this last one MORE important to...
Posted by Uncle Skeleton, on Aug 20, 2016 at 09:43 PM, in Political/War Lounge
The system in question includes the constitution,... 56,196 Views / 3,493 Replies  
The system in question includes the constitution, which includes the bill of rights, which includes the second amendment. The "winning strategy" would have to account for being fired, account for...
Posted by Uncle Skeleton, on Aug 16, 2016 at 12:02 PM, in Political/War Lounge
After the system fails to compel morality, there... 56,196 Views / 3,493 Replies  
After the system fails to compel morality, there is still the golden rule: do to others what you will accept them doing back to you. If you go around shooting people dead, you can expect that...
Posted by Uncle Skeleton, on Aug 13, 2016 at 07:07 AM, in Political/War Lounge
Heh, the link I posted agrees with you, but I was... 56,196 Views / 3,493 Replies  
Heh, the link I posted agrees with you, but I was too lazy to have read it before posting. Apparently Ben Franklin is the person who decided to bump it up to 100. Point taken


Something about...
Posted by Uncle Skeleton, on Aug 11, 2016 at 07:23 AM, in Political/War Lounge
mutual trust, shame and guilt [/QUOTE] :err: ... 56,196 Views / 3,493 Replies  
mutual trust, shame and guilt [/QUOTE]
:err:


It's kind of a gray area. Fear of being shamed, fear of feeling guilt. I think you meant to distinguish these from retribution or retaliation, not...
Posted by Uncle Skeleton, on Aug 9, 2016 at 09:52 AM, in Political/War Lounge
:lol: You don't even know what "A" is, it's a... 56,196 Views / 3,493 Replies  
:lol:
You don't even know what "A" is, it's a blank spot for anything. How can you say what it's not?


Yes. And if you start your process by assuming the equivalence is true, then you are:...
Posted by Uncle Skeleton, on Aug 9, 2016 at 08:55 AM, in Political/War Lounge
How are the police going to modify the behavior... 56,196 Views / 3,493 Replies  
How are the police going to modify the behavior of the gangs? Through fear, right?

Fear is the currency of morality. Fear of speeding tickets, fear of jail time, fear of armed home-owners...
Posted by Uncle Skeleton, on Aug 8, 2016 at 03:30 PM, in Political/War Lounge
Linguistically a conclusion isn't a conclusion... 56,196 Views / 3,493 Replies  
Linguistically a conclusion isn't a conclusion unless it concludes, so sticking with linguistics rather than mathematics may be a better way to resolve this issue.

Mathematically/ Logically/...
Posted by Uncle Skeleton, on Aug 8, 2016 at 06:22 AM, in Political/War Lounge
Outside of mathematics, you can't prove A by... 56,196 Views / 3,493 Replies  
Outside of mathematics, you can't prove A by first assuming A is true.
In a mathematical proof, you can't prove A by first assuming A is true.
In a mathematical equivalence, you can't prove A by...
Posted by Uncle Skeleton, on Aug 7, 2016 at 10:30 PM, in Political/War Lounge
I was referring to the Paul O'Neal... 56,196 Views / 3,493 Replies  
I was referring to the Paul O'Neal (http://forums.macnn.com/95/political-war-lounge/512874/police-discrimination-misconduct-ferguson-mo-roman/69/#post4363341) case, and I probably should have thought...
Posted by Uncle Skeleton, on Aug 7, 2016 at 09:24 AM, in Political/War Lounge
:thumbsup: I don't think I like the... 56,196 Views / 3,493 Replies  
:thumbsup:


I don't think I like the implication that the police are the only delicate flowers whose egos need stroking, and everyone else needs to pussyfoot around them. What about how your...
Posted by Uncle Skeleton, on Aug 6, 2016 at 09:36 PM, in Political/War Lounge
Ok I'm game for that too. I'll try my best to... 56,196 Views / 3,493 Replies  
Ok I'm game for that too. I'll try my best to follow your theme for a while.


Predicting human behavior is notoriously faulty. For example, I doubt there is a single expert who predicted that...
Posted by Uncle Skeleton, on Aug 6, 2016 at 06:43 PM, in Political/War Lounge
What about a bucket trap: Bucket Mouse Traps... 464 Views / 26 Replies  
What about a bucket trap:

Bucket Mouse Traps | (http://fivegallonideas.com/bucket-mouse-trap/)
Posted by Uncle Skeleton, on Aug 6, 2016 at 09:27 AM, in MacNN Lounge
No I'm not mixing them up at all. They are... 56,196 Views / 3,493 Replies  
No I'm not mixing them up at all. They are precisely what I'm trying to focus your attention on (and snow-i's). Maybe you didn't notice the post...
Posted by Uncle Skeleton, on Aug 6, 2016 at 07:37 AM, in Political/War Lounge
Who said it would work? I thought this was about... 56,196 Views / 3,493 Replies  
Who said it would work? I thought this was about the second amendment. The 2nd doesn't say you'll win, only that you'll get a chance to play. Kind of like the declaration of independence, it...
Posted by Uncle Skeleton, on Aug 5, 2016 at 04:42 PM, in Political/War Lounge
The contention is whether you can start by... 56,196 Views / 3,493 Replies  
The contention is whether you can start by assuming your conclusion is true. I'm pretty sure your conclusion is that the two statements are equivalent. But that equivalency was not assumed at the...
Posted by Uncle Skeleton, on Aug 5, 2016 at 12:32 PM, in Political/War Lounge
I'm game I object. This perpetuates the... 56,196 Views / 3,493 Replies  
I'm game


I object. This perpetuates the lie that we're talking about a chess game. It's not a chess game, it's a bar brawl. I think I was clear in my emphasis of the phrase "last resort" (and...
Posted by Uncle Skeleton, on Aug 5, 2016 at 09:44 AM, in Political/War Lounge
None of those start by assuming the conclusion is... 56,196 Views / 3,493 Replies  
None of those start by assuming the conclusion is true.



Actually your second line is false. 1/16 + 1/16 is not equal to 1/256. :P
Even if it were true, it does nothing to support the...
Posted by Uncle Skeleton, on Aug 5, 2016 at 08:33 AM, in Political/War Lounge
I'm not giving him the benefit of the doubt, but... 56,196 Views / 3,493 Replies  
I'm not giving him the benefit of the doubt, but my bias is towards you, not him, so I'm trying not to be convinced by my bias (especially since I haven't read the entire thread; I assume that you...
Posted by Uncle Skeleton, on Aug 4, 2016 at 08:45 AM, in Political/War Lounge
Take all the time you need. I'm saving a seat... 56,196 Views / 3,493 Replies  
Take all the time you need. I'm saving a seat for you.

:)
Posted by Uncle Skeleton, on Aug 4, 2016 at 07:21 AM, in Political/War Lounge
I'm skeptical. Can you give an example of one of... 56,196 Views / 3,493 Replies  
I'm skeptical. Can you give an example of one of these equations in a proof?



Which of those two outcomes is the good one?
Posted by Uncle Skeleton, on Aug 4, 2016 at 07:19 AM, in Political/War Lounge
Memory is time-sensitive, yes. Both yours and... 56,196 Views / 3,493 Replies  
Memory is time-sensitive, yes. Both yours and his (and the rest of us reading). Citing evidence is the generally accepted way to use technology to mitigate the inherent weaknesses of (biological)...
Posted by Uncle Skeleton, on Aug 4, 2016 at 07:07 AM, in Political/War Lounge
In a mathematical proof you can't start with your... 56,196 Views / 3,493 Replies  
In a mathematical proof you can't start with your conclusion either. One style (indirect proof) starts by assuming the conclusion is false and if it leads to a contradiction then the assumption that...
Posted by Uncle Skeleton, on Aug 2, 2016 at 04:36 PM, in Political/War Lounge
When your conclusion is your premise that is... 56,196 Views / 3,493 Replies  
When your conclusion is your premise that is circular reasoning


I feel like I missed the part of your story where you make it sound like it's not hopeless. Was the end of that story a happy...
Posted by Uncle Skeleton, on Aug 2, 2016 at 03:29 PM, in Political/War Lounge
If the police's mindset is that they are at war... 56,196 Views / 3,493 Replies  
If the police's mindset is that they are at war with the populace, there's no point in trying to find a solution. That is a hopeless premise.
Posted by Uncle Skeleton, on Aug 2, 2016 at 11:59 AM, in Political/War Lounge
You're begging the question of whether this is... 56,196 Views / 3,493 Replies  
You're begging the question of whether this is warfare. This brings up another reason that should be in my list above (if I had thought of it in time), both sides of this conflict are innately "us."...
Posted by Uncle Skeleton, on Aug 2, 2016 at 10:13 AM, in Political/War Lounge
If killing police indiscriminately is terrorism... 56,196 Views / 3,493 Replies  
If killing police indiscriminately is terrorism then the police killing black men indiscriminately is also terrorism. I don't agree that either are terrorism.
Posted by Uncle Skeleton, on Aug 2, 2016 at 09:41 AM, in Political/War Lounge
I'm confused, because I thought you were asking... 56,196 Views / 3,493 Replies  
I'm confused, because I thought you were asking me why this use of force was different from terrorism, and I was trying to provide reasons it was different from terrorism (well, I had 2 it was...
Posted by Uncle Skeleton, on Aug 2, 2016 at 07:47 AM, in Political/War Lounge
Excellent point. I can stand behind a number... 56,196 Views / 3,493 Replies  
Excellent point.

I can stand behind a number of meaningful differences.
1. Terrorists aren't responding in-kind, to precisely the same nature and degree of affront which the victim group itself...
Posted by Uncle Skeleton, on Jul 31, 2016 at 07:01 PM, in Political/War Lounge
I think I get it. Now our unknowns can focus on... 56,196 Views / 3,493 Replies  
I think I get it. Now our unknowns can focus on a new question:


This seems like a pretty good mad-lib for testing the concept. For example, for George Washington I would put
(a) defeating the...
Posted by Uncle Skeleton, on Jul 31, 2016 at 10:13 AM, in Political/War Lounge
:thumbsup: The way I see it, the... 56,196 Views / 3,493 Replies  
:thumbsup:



The way I see it, the second amendment provides a last resort. You seem to be describing it as quite a different beast, something to only use if assured of victory. A last resort...
Posted by Uncle Skeleton, on Jul 30, 2016 at 06:31 PM, in Political/War Lounge
Racism puts me on edge. I'm not ashamed of that... 56,196 Views / 3,493 Replies  
Racism puts me on edge. I'm not ashamed of that in the least. You gave no indication that you were suddenly reviving a three-month old dialog with someone who was not active in the last several...
Posted by Uncle Skeleton, on Jul 30, 2016 at 05:56 PM, in Political/War Lounge
The flexibility with which you are applying the... 56,196 Views / 3,493 Replies  
The flexibility with which you are applying the term makes it meaningless; it could be applied to anything. Example: the government entity facing destruction is the over-use of force (see the recent...
Posted by Uncle Skeleton, on Jul 30, 2016 at 01:31 PM, in Political/War Lounge
:rolleyes: ditto if you care whether people know... 56,196 Views / 3,493 Replies  
:rolleyes: ditto if you care whether people know what you're replying to, quotes are a nice way to make that happen


Yeah, except for the "cause" part. "Didn't completely fix" is a far sight...
Posted by Uncle Skeleton, on Jul 30, 2016 at 12:57 PM, in Political/War Lounge
Perhaps I'm the only one, but I don't think any... 56,196 Views / 3,493 Replies  
Perhaps I'm the only one, but I don't think any of these details were clear to me by inference alone, and I'm sure there are still many more that you're implying but I'm not inferring.

Let's skip...
Posted by Uncle Skeleton, on Jul 30, 2016 at 07:18 AM, in Political/War Lounge
begging the question? non sequitur? wrong... 56,196 Views / 3,493 Replies  
begging the question? non sequitur? wrong thread? Otherwise, you think that just because Obama IS black, that you expected him to give hand-outs to blacks (so much so that it makes your face hurt...
Posted by Uncle Skeleton, on Jul 30, 2016 at 01:08 AM, in Political/War Lounge
I'm pretty sure you started this train by... 56,196 Views / 3,493 Replies  
I'm pretty sure you started this train by claiming they were the same (or blurred). Now you're claiming to argue they're different. I don't even know why you think it matters.


None of that...
Posted by Uncle Skeleton, on Jul 29, 2016 at 10:36 PM, in Political/War Lounge
So after the conflict there was no sheriff's... 56,196 Views / 3,493 Replies  
So after the conflict there was no sheriff's department?

I disagree that one person being removed from office, to be replaced by a new person (a better person) in the same office is a fair use of...
Posted by Uncle Skeleton, on Jul 29, 2016 at 04:51 PM, in Political/War Lounge
So what? We could just say "and then something... 56,196 Views / 3,493 Replies  
So what? We could just say "and then something else might happen" to every post. You have to support the logic of the connection. We can't live our lives in fear of the butterfly effect.


...
Posted by Uncle Skeleton, on Jul 29, 2016 at 03:41 PM, in Political/War Lounge
What government entity was totally destroyed? 56,196 Views / 3,493 Replies  
What government entity was totally destroyed?
Posted by Uncle Skeleton, on Jul 29, 2016 at 03:26 PM, in Political/War Lounge
Cap'n tightpants' most recent post seems to be a... 56,196 Views / 3,493 Replies  
Cap'n tightpants' most recent post seems to be a perfect counterexample. I am not familiar enough with it to know whether you can poke holes in it, but on the surface it seems like it proves that...
Posted by Uncle Skeleton, on Jul 29, 2016 at 11:14 AM, in Political/War Lounge
Ok, fair enough. I'm going to list the... 56,196 Views / 3,493 Replies  
Ok, fair enough. I'm going to list the true/false statements that I believe lead me to my suspicion, and you can tell me if you think any of them are false.
1. A pattern is emerging of police...
Posted by Uncle Skeleton, on Jul 29, 2016 at 11:07 AM, in Political/War Lounge
The powers that be have had their chance to... 56,196 Views / 3,493 Replies  
The powers that be have had their chance to deliver justice. We're not idiots. At this point, it's obvious that no justice is forthcoming. Justice is simply not on the menu. Now what is better,...
Posted by Uncle Skeleton, on Jul 29, 2016 at 07:38 AM, in Political/War Lounge
so..... what? Maybe I'm not catching your... 56,196 Views / 3,493 Replies  
so..... what? Maybe I'm not catching your inference, but that seems completely irrelevant to me. It doesn't seem likely, and even if it did come about it wouldn't undermine the effectiveness of...
Posted by Uncle Skeleton, on Jul 28, 2016 at 09:52 PM, in Political/War Lounge
The former is what I'm trying to say about the... 56,196 Views / 3,493 Replies  
The former is what I'm trying to say about the latter. It's not necessarily one "big red button" that all the citizens press together as a unified group. It's a separate "big red button" for each...
Posted by Uncle Skeleton, on Jul 28, 2016 at 06:17 PM, in Political/War Lounge
The constitution provides a check/balance against... 2,975 Views / 292 Replies  
The constitution provides a check/balance against the presidency. Impeachment. The main reason it hasn't been used in the past is because of party unity behind their respective candidates. The...
Posted by Uncle Skeleton, on Jul 28, 2016 at 03:54 PM, in Political/War Lounge
The inherent believability of your statement... 56,196 Views / 3,493 Replies  
The inherent believability of your statement relies on the term "government" and by implication "army." But I think "police" is more accurate than "government", and I also think that would call your...
Posted by Uncle Skeleton, on Jul 28, 2016 at 02:06 PM, in Political/War Lounge
I am trying to say that it's a method of... 56,196 Views / 3,493 Replies  
I am trying to say that it's a method of expression that, by its very nature, ensures it will only be used on matters of utmost importance. You would not use this measure on trivial matters, because...
Posted by Uncle Skeleton, on Jul 28, 2016 at 01:13 PM, in Political/War Lounge
I missed it. Come again? I think the... 56,196 Views / 3,493 Replies  
I missed it. Come again?



I think the tool in question has more than one use. Another use is to effect the death of a certain chosen person. Ordinarily it's not the job of random wackos to...
Posted by Uncle Skeleton, on Jul 28, 2016 at 09:36 AM, in Political/War Lounge
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