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Because you're trying to change the rules at 10... 2,516 Views / 180 Replies  
Because you're trying to change the rules at 10 seconds left in the 4th quarter because your team isn't good enough.

You can't marry if you are gay because you can't reproduce with your 'partner.'...
Posted by krankklown, on Apr 29, 2005 at 08:43 PM, in Political/War Lounge
Do you think that people who have offspring... 2,516 Views / 180 Replies  
Do you think that people who have offspring should not get special tax benefits, incentives, etc. to have those offspring?

If people are not going to have offspring then it's not the same as...
Posted by krankklown, on Apr 29, 2005 at 08:36 PM, in Political/War Lounge
Those who can and choose to reproduce should... 2,516 Views / 180 Replies  
Those who can and choose to reproduce should always be entitled to special benefits because without those willing to do so we are at a dead end.

How do you suppose we'll create new citizens, new...
Posted by krankklown, on Apr 29, 2005 at 07:23 PM, in Political/War Lounge
I said I support the ability for any two or more... 2,516 Views / 180 Replies  
I said I support the ability for any two or more people to enter into a civil union. I do not support the priviledge, however, of those who cannot possible reproduce to ever call that union a...
Posted by krankklown, on Apr 29, 2005 at 07:21 PM, in Political/War Lounge
But the fact is those relationships do in fact... 2,516 Views / 180 Replies  
But the fact is those relationships do in fact result in a permanent genetic bond between both members in the relationship, correct?

If you are going to bring up the divorce rate, then, consider...
Posted by krankklown, on Apr 29, 2005 at 07:18 PM, in Political/War Lounge
I have yet to see a reason why gay marriage... 1,343 Views / 68 Replies  
I have yet to see a reason why gay marriage should BE allowed.
Posted by krankklown, on Apr 29, 2005 at 04:07 PM, in Political/War Lounge
Tell me, zigzag, how do any two gay people make a... 2,516 Views / 180 Replies  
Tell me, zigzag, how do any two gay people make a permanent bond between themselves?

The only way I see this as being possible is to procreate...passing the genes on from both parents to create a...
Posted by krankklown, on Apr 29, 2005 at 03:49 PM, in Political/War Lounge
I think the government, as a reflection of the... 2,516 Views / 180 Replies  
I think the government, as a reflection of the moral compass of the nation, has a duty to regulate many types of behavior including who can marry and who cannot. The government, for example, already...
Posted by krankklown, on Apr 29, 2005 at 03:22 PM, in Political/War Lounge
Alaska, Arkansas, Georgia, Kansas, Kentucky, ... 2,516 Views / 180 Replies  
Alaska, Arkansas, Georgia, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Michigan, Mississippi, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, Nevada, North Dakota, Ohio, Oklahoma, Oregon, Utah, with Massachusetts, Tennessee, and...
Posted by krankklown, on Apr 29, 2005 at 02:32 PM, in Political/War Lounge
Alas, and behavior shouldn't be constitutionally... 2,516 Views / 180 Replies  
Alas, and behavior shouldn't be constitutionally protected, however......



....there is no justifiable reason to prevent two heterosexuals from marrying for any reason aside from an existing...
Posted by krankklown, on Apr 29, 2005 at 01:49 PM, in Political/War Lounge
I can have genetically related children with my... 1,343 Views / 68 Replies  
I can have genetically related children with my wife and have a real marriage. How many gays can say that?
Posted by krankklown, on Apr 28, 2005 at 10:43 PM, in Political/War Lounge
The big problem here is that you are comparing a... 2,516 Views / 180 Replies  
The big problem here is that you are comparing a chosen, controllable behavior with one that is immutable. Ordinary majorities in what, 13 states now, have seen through the smokescreens and realize...
Posted by krankklown, on Apr 28, 2005 at 10:03 PM, in Political/War Lounge
You cannot ignore the overwhelming support for... 2,516 Views / 180 Replies  
You cannot ignore the overwhelming support for state constitutional amendments that clarify exactly what defines a marriage either without following the road to anarchy. I wouldn't want to be the...
Posted by krankklown, on Apr 28, 2005 at 06:47 PM, in Political/War Lounge
Bingo. Next thing you know they'll argue that tax... 2,516 Views / 180 Replies  
Bingo. Next thing you know they'll argue that tax breaks for couples with children are discriminatory against childless couples.

The fact is that homosexual couples and heterosexual couples will...
Posted by krankklown, on Apr 27, 2005 at 05:40 PM, in Political/War Lounge
And it's a perfectly good reason why marriage... 2,516 Views / 180 Replies  
And it's a perfectly good reason why marriage should be kept solely the realm of heterosexuals. Gays can't reproduce amongst themselves, therefore, naturally there isn't any way for them to continue...
Posted by krankklown, on Apr 27, 2005 at 03:02 PM, in Political/War Lounge
You really ought to reread my posts. Civil union,... 2,516 Views / 180 Replies  
You really ought to reread my posts. Civil union, then, marriage if a child is born of the parents. If the parents had child first, then, the civil union would therefore automatically be converted to...
Posted by krankklown, on Apr 26, 2005 at 10:13 PM, in Political/War Lounge
How would first-born children be illegitimate if... 2,516 Views / 180 Replies  
How would first-born children be illegitimate if the child came from both parents?

No, what I've come up with is an air-tight argument which fits the standard necessary to be a reasonable law:...
Posted by krankklown, on Apr 26, 2005 at 07:46 PM, in Political/War Lounge
I believe that the greatest gift of nature is the... 2,516 Views / 180 Replies  
I believe that the greatest gift of nature is the ability to fall in love and have children. This is a real marriage....i.e. the union of two people to create a new one.

Two people who fall in...
Posted by krankklown, on Apr 26, 2005 at 07:09 PM, in Political/War Lounge
The state should only sanction a marriage when a... 2,516 Views / 180 Replies  
The state should only sanction a marriage when a child is born of both parents. Otherwise, it should only be a civil union.
Posted by krankklown, on Apr 26, 2005 at 06:24 PM, in Political/War Lounge
I believe that the legality of the union would be... 2,516 Views / 180 Replies  
I believe that the legality of the union would be a contract between the parties involved. I don't need the government's permission to get a credit card, however, the government oversees the creditor...
Posted by krankklown, on Apr 25, 2005 at 09:34 PM, in Political/War Lounge
What I mean is those who reproduce within the... 2,516 Views / 180 Replies  
What I mean is those who reproduce within the legal framework of a civil union deserve to be called married. After all, there is no greater possible love than for two people to unite and create a...
Posted by krankklown, on Apr 25, 2005 at 09:05 PM, in Political/War Lounge
Except that in the sense of marriage limiting it... 2,516 Views / 180 Replies  
Except that in the sense of marriage limiting it to a man and a woman makes sense, after all, naturally that's the way humans fit together, penis and vagina and all that. All other forms of sex, for...
Posted by krankklown, on Apr 25, 2005 at 07:21 PM, in Political/War Lounge
If it's a kind of right then why does one have to... 2,516 Views / 180 Replies  
If it's a kind of right then why does one have to obtain a license to engage in it?

I don't need a license to vote, don't need a license to write a letter to the editor of the local paper, don't...
Posted by krankklown, on Apr 25, 2005 at 06:47 PM, in Political/War Lounge
No, what I'm pointing out is that those who... 2,516 Views / 180 Replies  
No, what I'm pointing out is that those who support gay marriage tend to ignore all others who for one reason or another aren't being allowed to marry.

In fact, it's akin to screaming about...
Posted by krankklown, on Apr 25, 2005 at 06:39 PM, in Political/War Lounge
What is the harm to society for denying these... 2,516 Views / 180 Replies  
What is the harm to society for denying these marriages? We already regulate marriage to the degree that only a single man and a single woman can marry.

So, let's up the ante. Let's have civil...
Posted by krankklown, on Apr 25, 2005 at 05:19 PM, in Political/War Lounge
Why is prohibiting polygamy any different than 2... 2,516 Views / 180 Replies  
Why is prohibiting polygamy any different than 2 gays or a man and a woman?

The government is in fact banning a relationship based on some sense of morality if it bans polygamy, correct?

Laws...
Posted by krankklown, on Apr 25, 2005 at 04:33 PM, in Political/War Lounge
Only if the people are willing to acknowledge the... 2,516 Views / 180 Replies  
Only if the people are willing to acknowledge the legitimacy of the law in the first place.

If the majority feel that the government isn't doing the right thing then the people have the right to...
Posted by krankklown, on Apr 25, 2005 at 04:19 PM, in Political/War Lounge
Only because it's easier to coddle your enemy... 1,580 Views / 97 Replies  
Only because it's easier to coddle your enemy than to stand firm and tall. If the nations of the world had courage and extended the right of recognition for the democracy on Taiwan then China would...
Posted by krankklown, on Apr 25, 2005 at 04:17 PM, in Political/War Lounge
I have an idea that's foolproof. Everyone... 2,516 Views / 180 Replies  
I have an idea that's foolproof.

Everyone gets a civil union when they want to join with another partner. Then, when a child is born from the union (must be a child of both spouses) then the...
Posted by krankklown, on Apr 25, 2005 at 04:12 PM, in Political/War Lounge
There is no Constitutional right to marry without... 2,516 Views / 180 Replies  
There is no Constitutional right to marry without restrictions. We can and do in fact place limits on relationships through legal processes. For example, it's illegal for one man to marry two women.
Posted by krankklown, on Apr 25, 2005 at 04:05 PM, in Political/War Lounge
But if the process of the law works against them... 2,516 Views / 180 Replies  
But if the process of the law works against them then they complain about how unfair it is that the majority of citizens of a state would define marriage as only between a man and a woman.

You...
Posted by krankklown, on Apr 25, 2005 at 04:02 PM, in Political/War Lounge
If we considered Taiwan to be part of China then... 1,580 Views / 97 Replies  
If we considered Taiwan to be part of China then it would have happened long ago, wouldn't it have?

As typical American John Kerry Waffle House fashion we want our cake and eat it too because...
Posted by krankklown, on Apr 19, 2005 at 08:30 PM, in Political/War Lounge
A bit of a stretch? GMAFB. The ROC was one of the... 1,580 Views / 97 Replies  
A bit of a stretch? GMAFB. The ROC was one of the victors of World War II and was one of the original UN Security Council members FCOL.

Just admit you were wrong. History proves you wrong no...
Posted by krankklown, on Apr 19, 2005 at 08:21 PM, in Political/War Lounge
...yet all the aforementioned characteristics I... 1,580 Views / 97 Replies  
...yet all the aforementioned characteristics I listed of any other sovereign nation on Earth apply to Taiwan as well, do they not?

The day that Beijing rules over Taipei is the day we can...
Posted by krankklown, on Apr 19, 2005 at 07:56 PM, in Political/War Lounge
Terrible analogy BECAUSE THE GOVERNMENT OF THE... 1,580 Views / 97 Replies  
Terrible analogy BECAUSE THE GOVERNMENT OF THE PEOPLE'S REPUBLIC HAS NEVER ONCE CONTROLLED THE ISLAND OF TAIWAN.

You analogy should be as follows: I own two houses and I have some presents. You...
Posted by krankklown, on Apr 19, 2005 at 07:52 PM, in Political/War Lounge
Absolutely and 100% WRONG. The Republic of... 1,580 Views / 97 Replies  
Absolutely and 100% WRONG.

The Republic of China was founded upon the ending of the Qing Dynasty on October 10, 1911 and was officially declared on January 1, 1912 by Dr. Sun Yat-Sen. Hence the...
Posted by krankklown, on Apr 19, 2005 at 07:41 PM, in Political/War Lounge
It isn't. Taiwan has its own democratically... 1,580 Views / 97 Replies  
It isn't. Taiwan has its own democratically elected sovereign government. A President, vice-president, legislature, and court system. Taiwan has full control over its territory via its own military...
Posted by krankklown, on Apr 19, 2005 at 07:37 PM, in Political/War Lounge
Which came first? The People's Republic? Or the... 1,580 Views / 97 Replies  
Which came first? The People's Republic? Or the Republic of China?

The ROC came into being in 1911. When was the PRC established?
Posted by krankklown, on Apr 19, 2005 at 07:21 PM, in Political/War Lounge
Oh, yeah, and: "Taiwan is not a part of... 1,580 Views / 97 Replies  
Oh, yeah, and:

"Taiwan is not a part of China" - Taiwanese Vice President Lu (http://www.philstar.com/philstar/News200504172602.htm)
Posted by krankklown, on Apr 19, 2005 at 07:05 PM, in Political/War Lounge
That's right. How much of the budget is spent on... 1,580 Views / 97 Replies  
That's right. How much of the budget is spent on entitlements? How many carriers could we have for the hundreds of billions WASTED on failed social schemes like welfare, Medicare, Social Security,...
Posted by krankklown, on Apr 19, 2005 at 06:59 PM, in Political/War Lounge
Wrong. Taiwan Province is not a part of mainland... 1,580 Views / 97 Replies  
Wrong. Taiwan Province is not a part of mainland China. (http://www.gio.gov.tw/)

I guess if England passes a law making the United States part of the UK then, therefore, we are subjects of the...
Posted by krankklown, on Apr 19, 2005 at 06:58 PM, in Political/War Lounge
Or we could chop away all the social bloat,... 1,580 Views / 97 Replies  
Or we could chop away all the social bloat, therefore balancing the budget, and in the process strengthen our national security.
Posted by krankklown, on Apr 19, 2005 at 05:50 PM, in Political/War Lounge
Yes.... 1,580 Views / 97 Replies  
Yes. (http://www.atimes.com/atimes/China/DK07Ad03.html)
Posted by krankklown, on Apr 19, 2005 at 05:18 PM, in Political/War Lounge
We aren't exactly rolling in dough either, and,... 1,580 Views / 97 Replies  
We aren't exactly rolling in dough either, and, neither are we even an Asian country. Yet, despite our large deficits we still managed to find the humanity to contribute to the relief efforts. And...
Posted by krankklown, on Apr 19, 2005 at 04:25 PM, in Political/War Lounge
The stuff I own made by Apple wasn't made in... 1,580 Views / 97 Replies  
The stuff I own made by Apple wasn't made in China. I wasn't aware that Singapore, Thailand, and Taiwan were provinces of China.
Posted by krankklown, on Apr 19, 2005 at 03:50 PM, in Political/War Lounge
Ah, the left shows its true colors. Now I'm a... 1,580 Views / 97 Replies  
Ah, the left shows its true colors. Now I'm a racist because I choose not to buy products made in a country that is an enemy of America? :rolleyes:
Posted by krankklown, on Apr 19, 2005 at 03:49 PM, in Political/War Lounge
So, in other words, the 30 year old house I live... 1,580 Views / 97 Replies  
So, in other words, the 30 year old house I live in was retroactively build using Chinese nails that couldn't have been exported at the time it was built? The packages I buy are all lying with...
Posted by krankklown, on Apr 19, 2005 at 03:48 PM, in Political/War Lounge
Economics 101: I don't own a single thing made in... 1,580 Views / 97 Replies  
Economics 101: I don't own a single thing made in China and I never will. I make sure everything I buy comes from a country friendly to the United States.

China is our enemy. Some people would...
Posted by krankklown, on Apr 19, 2005 at 03:27 PM, in Political/War Lounge
China needs to learn to grow up. First, not... 1,580 Views / 97 Replies  
China needs to learn to grow up. First, not sending much in the way of assistance during the tsunami relief effort was a major slap in the face to the rest of Asia. Second, the lack of sympathy for...
Posted by krankklown, on Apr 19, 2005 at 02:46 PM, in Political/War Lounge
But we don't throw out the entire system of... 6,787 Views / 146 Replies  
But we don't throw out the entire system of punishment on the basis of a few innocent people being incarcerated. Isn't it more cruel and inhumane to lock someone up for the rest of their life rather...
Posted by krankklown, on Apr 15, 2005 at 04:38 PM, in Political/War Lounge
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