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It's not an iPhone, but I do use my 3G mobile... 898 Views / 16 Replies  
It's not an iPhone, but I do use my 3G mobile phone for internet at my home. It's good enough for online banking, email and looking up information occasionally. Unfortunately tethering is not an...
Posted by Saetre, on Oct 23, 2008 at 11:14 AM, in MacNN Lounge
Even so, it seems very unlikely that the error... 1,868 Views / 60 Replies  
Even so, it seems very unlikely that the error protection would be that good.
Posted by Saetre, on Sep 6, 2007 at 10:34 PM, in Political/War Lounge
Couldn't the DNA be a promoter for any number of... 1,868 Views / 60 Replies  
Couldn't the DNA be a promoter for any number of number of essential genes that would not show up in a laboratory setting? Perhaps the mutated mice now lack the ability to metabolize certain plant...
Posted by Saetre, on Sep 6, 2007 at 10:27 PM, in Political/War Lounge
Just a little, but very worth it. ... 1,131 Views / 23 Replies  
Just a little, but very worth it.

http://homedir-c.libsyn.com/podcasts/6fdbe2a12326fc1816b445405666c6f9/46d1e1b4/brewcast/images/smithwicks_small.jpg...
Posted by Saetre, on Aug 26, 2007 at 04:32 PM, in MacNN Lounge
He did have Welsh ancestry though. 825 Views / 26 Replies  
He did have Welsh ancestry though.
Posted by Saetre, on Aug 12, 2007 at 05:48 PM, in MacNN Lounge
Except that atheists are one of the most educated... 6,739 Views / 182 Replies  
Except that atheists are one of the most educated groups when it comes to evolution. I would agree that many of them get it wrong, but they are nowhere near as bad as the general population. Why...
Posted by Saetre, on Jul 31, 2007 at 09:33 AM, in Political/War Lounge
I'll check it out. I've been researching... 20,976 Views / 321 Replies  
I'll check it out. I've been researching consciousness for years, and have recently come across an introductory text that does a great job of putting all the major theories into perspective:...
Posted by Saetre, on Jun 19, 2007 at 12:54 PM, in Political/War Lounge
Those people probably did have beliefs about the... 20,976 Views / 321 Replies  
Those people probably did have beliefs about the afterlife. But it doesn't seem to me that such complex behavior would just arise out of nowhere...
Posted by Saetre, on Jun 18, 2007 at 05:35 PM, in Political/War Lounge
Here's the previous response to your post, which... 20,976 Views / 321 Replies  
Here's the previous response to your post, which I didn't post because I thought we had veered too far off the subject:



I can't follow your argument.



My intention was demonstrate that...
Posted by Saetre, on Jun 18, 2007 at 01:33 PM, in Political/War Lounge
This is fun, isn't it? ;) See, we are talking... 20,976 Views / 321 Replies  
This is fun, isn't it? ;) See, we are talking past eachother. You are not understanding me, and I have no idea what you are trying to do. I would like to keep this civil if possible, so I apologize...
Posted by Saetre, on Jun 18, 2007 at 01:32 PM, in Political/War Lounge
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Posted by Saetre, on Jun 18, 2007 at 11:56 AM, in Political/War Lounge
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Posted by Saetre, on Jun 18, 2007 at 11:55 AM, in Political/War Lounge
As far as I can tell, you once again failed to... 20,976 Views / 321 Replies  
As far as I can tell, you once again failed to address my question. I don't see what any of this has to do with our discussion. I also don't see what faith has to do with our discussion. Do you mean...
Posted by Saetre, on Jun 15, 2007 at 11:30 PM, in Political/War Lounge
I wrote up another point-by-point reply, but have... 20,976 Views / 321 Replies  
I wrote up another point-by-point reply, but have decided not to post it. Let's get back to the basics. Your assertion seems to be that god instilled in us an "innate reverence for our creator". For...
Posted by Saetre, on Jun 15, 2007 at 10:18 AM, in Political/War Lounge
I am unfamiliar with Dawkin's... 20,976 Views / 321 Replies  
I am unfamiliar with Dawkin's "Compartmentalization of the mind" idea so I can't really follow your argument.



Actually, I did consider various god hypotheses. Here are a few of them:

1) God...
Posted by Saetre, on Jun 11, 2007 at 04:37 PM, in Political/War Lounge
Well, I provided some potential answers on page... 20,976 Views / 321 Replies  
Well, I provided some potential answers on page 3, if you're still curious.
Posted by Saetre, on Jun 10, 2007 at 02:39 PM, in Political/War Lounge
You and Erik haven't addressed the question, as... 20,976 Views / 321 Replies  
You and Erik haven't addressed the question, as far as I can tell. Your first post starts to explain why you believe, but that was not the question.

Don't get me wrong, I love these forums, I just...
Posted by Saetre, on Jun 10, 2007 at 02:35 PM, in Political/War Lounge
I'm not claiming it has anything to do with the... 20,976 Views / 321 Replies  
I'm not claiming it has anything to do with the religiosity of the members of the forum, if that's what you're thinking. I tried starting this discussion here once before in a maximally respectful...
Posted by Saetre, on Jun 9, 2007 at 04:43 PM, in Political/War Lounge
It has been reviewed favorably by many of my... 20,976 Views / 321 Replies  
It has been reviewed favorably by many of my favorite authors. I have heard him speak about it several times and have read his other books, which are excellent. He has a great mind, so whether it's...
Posted by Saetre, on Jun 9, 2007 at 04:27 PM, in Political/War Lounge
Agreed, of course. 20,976 Views / 321 Replies  
Agreed, of course.
Posted by Saetre, on Jun 8, 2007 at 05:33 PM, in Political/War Lounge
For those who are interested in this topic you... 20,976 Views / 321 Replies  
For those who are interested in this topic you might want to check out "Breaking the Spell - Religion As a Natural Phenomenon" by the philospher Daniel Dennet. I haven't read it myself, but own it,...
Posted by Saetre, on Jun 8, 2007 at 11:32 AM, in Political/War Lounge
Well, not everybody. I was just defending the... 20,976 Views / 321 Replies  
Well, not everybody. I was just defending the idea of the thread, which I believe is a good one, even if it was implemented poorly and MacNN is a poor environment for it.
Posted by Saetre, on Jun 4, 2007 at 10:38 PM, in Political/War Lounge
I disagree. I think people are naturally somewhat... 20,976 Views / 321 Replies  
I disagree. I think people are naturally somewhat evangelical about religion (or lack thereof), in the same way that they tend to be evangelical about their music and beer tastes. The main difference...
Posted by Saetre, on Jun 4, 2007 at 08:31 PM, in Political/War Lounge
This thread isn't intended to convert believers... 20,976 Views / 321 Replies  
This thread isn't intended to convert believers in unbelievers or vice versa. It was meant to be a discussion about the origin of religious behavior in man. "Why do people even care to spread their...
Posted by Saetre, on Jun 4, 2007 at 10:56 AM, in Political/War Lounge
It sure seems like "shrewd, nimble, inquiring,... 20,976 Views / 321 Replies  
It sure seems like "shrewd, nimble, inquiring, and perspicacious" minds wouldn't "surrender" to dogma, but they do. This is why religion is such a puzzling phenomenon. A good proportion (probably the...
Posted by Saetre, on May 31, 2007 at 03:45 PM, in Political/War Lounge
Most of these tenets are completely... 20,976 Views / 321 Replies  
Most of these tenets are completely unreasonable*, and only a person deeply entranced by their religion would see them as self-evident. Not only that, but these most defintely do not form the basis...
Posted by Saetre, on May 31, 2007 at 02:28 PM, in Political/War Lounge
This is a bit of a strawman. Very few atheists... 20,976 Views / 321 Replies  
This is a bit of a strawman. Very few atheists claim to have as much certainty as you say. Most atheists just see the very obvious problems with each extant religion and reject them each in turn. We...
Posted by Saetre, on May 30, 2007 at 01:47 PM, in Political/War Lounge
No, it's not. At least it looks like none I have... 2,738 Views / 27 Replies  
No, it's not. At least it looks like none I have ever seen. Poison Ivy does have a whole bunch of forms, but I'm nearly 100% positive it never looks at all like that. The teeth are just too sharp and...
Posted by Saetre, on May 29, 2007 at 08:15 PM, in MacNN Lounge
I don't know what to say. I don't share your... 20,976 Views / 321 Replies  
I don't know what to say. I don't share your pessimism. Three hundred years ago no one would have accepted that we would walk on the moon or be able to wipe out whole cities with the press of a...
Posted by Saetre, on May 28, 2007 at 03:55 PM, in Political/War Lounge
First, lets clarify exactly what you are... 20,976 Views / 321 Replies  
First, lets clarify exactly what you are claiming. Are you claiming that human behavior is unexplainable in principle or only in practice? Second, what aspects of human behavior do you consider to be...
Posted by Saetre, on May 25, 2007 at 10:28 PM, in Political/War Lounge
That's a mighty strong statement. Can you back it... 20,976 Views / 321 Replies  
That's a mighty strong statement. Can you back it up?
Posted by Saetre, on May 25, 2007 at 08:40 PM, in Political/War Lounge
Religion is among the strangest of human... 20,976 Views / 321 Replies  
Religion is among the strangest of human behaviors and it's just screaming for an explaination. How come everyone is focusing on the tired debate about the merits and vices of religion? Because it's...
Posted by Saetre, on May 25, 2007 at 07:34 PM, in Political/War Lounge
It's happened to me plenty of times. It can be... 20,976 Views / 321 Replies  
It's happened to me plenty of times. It can be pretty disappointing.
Posted by Saetre, on May 25, 2007 at 07:25 PM, in Political/War Lounge
I think you may be the only person who even... 20,976 Views / 321 Replies  
I think you may be the only person who even bothered to read all that. Thank you. I didn't put much time into, so I realize it's a little dense, poorly written and under-explained.

Mirror neurons...
Posted by Saetre, on May 25, 2007 at 11:46 AM, in Political/War Lounge
Oh wow, I missed that on my quick skim through... 20,976 Views / 321 Replies  
Oh wow, I missed that on my quick skim through his post. What a way to defenestrate ones credibility!
Posted by Saetre, on May 25, 2007 at 03:19 AM, in Political/War Lounge
I do think that if we do something, we should... 3,323 Views / 106 Replies  
I do think that if we do something, we should keep Israel out of it as much as possible. Getting them involved will only add insult to injury, and increase the chances of igniting the powder keg.
Posted by Saetre, on May 24, 2007 at 11:59 PM, in Political/War Lounge
I'm a litte torn. I agree that there is a... 3,323 Views / 106 Replies  
I'm a litte torn. I agree that there is a reasonable chance that this could lead to WWIII. Then again, I certainly don't trust Iran's president with nukes and if we are going to do something about...
Posted by Saetre, on May 24, 2007 at 11:57 PM, in Political/War Lounge
My post was addressing the ultra-zealous... 20,976 Views / 321 Replies  
My post was addressing the ultra-zealous religious. I was talking about those people who are so obsessed with religion that they do not lead mentally or (dare I say) spiritually happy lives. Taken to...
Posted by Saetre, on May 24, 2007 at 11:48 PM, in Political/War Lounge
Any when I say 'idiots' I mean the fanatics, not... 20,976 Views / 321 Replies  
Any when I say 'idiots' I mean the fanatics, not the ordinary religious folks.
Posted by Saetre, on May 24, 2007 at 07:41 PM, in Political/War Lounge
They annoy me. The thought of my child growing up... 20,976 Views / 321 Replies  
They annoy me. The thought of my child growing up to be one of them scares me. I'm also scared about the direction my country is going in, due largely to the control the religious right has over my...
Posted by Saetre, on May 24, 2007 at 07:34 PM, in Political/War Lounge
Fine. Call the bloody ones Bloodhristians then. I... 20,976 Views / 321 Replies  
Fine. Call the bloody ones Bloodhristians then. I don't approve of Bloodhristians or the Christians I mentioned in my previous post. Happy?
Posted by Saetre, on May 24, 2007 at 07:02 PM, in Political/War Lounge
Did I ever say they tried to do that? I do worry... 20,976 Views / 321 Replies  
Did I ever say they tried to do that? I do worry somewhat that they will try and turn my children into lunatics who will then end up waisting their lives in the name of God. But I'm pretty sure I'll...
Posted by Saetre, on May 24, 2007 at 07:01 PM, in Political/War Lounge
But I'm most concerned about a resurgence of... 20,976 Views / 321 Replies  
But I'm most concerned about a resurgence of Christianity's bloody past. You all killed and converted most of the 'savages', but there are still all those damn Muslim's to attend to...
Posted by Saetre, on May 24, 2007 at 06:55 PM, in Political/War Lounge
These guys (especially when they hold political... 20,976 Views / 321 Replies  
These guys (especially when they hold political power. We have some real nutters here in the states):

The End is Nigh? Newsweek Periscope Patton Dodd FAQ End Times Evangelical Christians --...
Posted by Saetre, on May 24, 2007 at 06:49 PM, in Political/War Lounge
What Erik said. Some brands of Christianity are... 20,976 Views / 321 Replies  
What Erik said. Some brands of Christianity are worrysome too, but not so much as Islam. Those other religions haven't been infected as much with the stuff I mentioned in section 4. But whether I...
Posted by Saetre, on May 24, 2007 at 06:38 PM, in Political/War Lounge
I could be wrong, but aren't you one of those who... 20,976 Views / 321 Replies  
I could be wrong, but aren't you one of those who harps against the dangers of the Muslim terrorists?
Posted by Saetre, on May 24, 2007 at 06:15 PM, in Political/War Lounge
This really is a stumper. I've been thinking... 20,976 Views / 321 Replies  
This really is a stumper. I've been thinking about this question for years and I've come to the conclusion that religion belief is probably the result of several miscellaneous facts about the human...
Posted by Saetre, on May 24, 2007 at 05:46 PM, in Political/War Lounge
Nice. 1,127 Views / 48 Replies  
Nice.
Posted by Saetre, on May 24, 2007 at 01:10 PM, in MacNN Lounge
You couldn't possibly mean what you are saying... 8,204 Views / 300 Replies  
You couldn't possibly mean what you are saying here. A quick thought experiment will prove that your position is logically untenable. You ought to clariffy what you actually mean by this.
Posted by Saetre, on May 23, 2007 at 12:01 PM, in Political/War Lounge
Why the hostile attitude? I don't have an agenda.... 1,552 Views / 36 Replies  
Why the hostile attitude? I don't have an agenda. You are right that waterfowl use sexual imprinting. Humans don't use this method, but at some point the sexual orientation is 'set' in the brain,...
Posted by Saetre, on May 7, 2007 at 11:26 AM, in Political/War Lounge
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