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bacchus · Jun 25, 2003, 03:36 AM

So fast, expose so unbelievably cool, tab switching behaves like lightswitch, user switching will blow you away...

and did i mention fast!!

Cipher13 · Jun 25, 2003, 05:52 AM

On your dual 1.42?

Guy Incognito 2 · Jun 25, 2003, 06:00 AM

Originally posted by Cipher13:
On your dual 1.42?

He's got a TiBook, assmonkey.

JLL · Jun 25, 2003, 06:01 AM

Originally posted by Cipher13:
On your dual 1.42?

Trouble reading?

TiBook .:1ghz:. Superdrive

Cipher13 · Jun 25, 2003, 07:37 AM

As if I read peoples signatures

Good to hear, though I'm wary of how it will perform on inferior systems.

calumr · Jun 25, 2003, 08:03 AM

I wonder what was used in the keynote. Dual 2GHz G5 no doubt.

DaveGee · Jun 25, 2003, 08:12 AM

Originally posted by Cipher13:
As if I read peoples signatures

Good to hear, though I'm wary of how it will perform on inferior systems.

I'm just shocked that FUD (fear, uncertainty and doubt) would be voiced by Cipher13 of all people...

Cipher13 · Jun 25, 2003, 08:15 AM

Originally posted by DaveGee:
I'm just shocked that FUD (fear, uncertainty and doubt) would be voiced by Cipher13 of all people...

Yeah, realism is such a rare quality nowadays, eh Dave?

DaveGee · Jun 25, 2003, 08:25 AM

Originally posted by Cipher13:
Yeah, realism is such a rare quality nowadays, eh Dave?

Despite what you may think realism and pessimism are not one and the same.

A realist may have said:

" Okay, but what kinda system are you running "

A pessimist would say:

" On your dual 1.42?

"

Notice that one was written in a way to promote a continued friendly discussion to ascertain the configuration of the system the poster was using, while the other came off as a snide remark that implied that the OS was slow and the author was simply inflating the truth?

D

P.S. this is getting off topic so I'll stop where I am... Apologies to the topic starter for going OT.

diamondsw · Jun 25, 2003, 03:27 PM

I don't know about "F$ck Panther Rules", but on an iBook/800 it certainly is a lot faster. Sheets, window resizing, and effects are all much faster. Logging in occurs in about two seconds. Boot seems a bit faster.

That aside, I have a lot of concerns with the general disorganization of System Preferences, but we'll see how that's cleaned up by release.

ratlater · Jun 25, 2003, 03:29 PM

It's noticeably faster than Jag on an iBook 600 with 8mb graphics. Everything is quicker from app launch to graphics.

-matt

tRr · Jun 25, 2003, 03:48 PM

Very much faster as well on my G4 466mhz with GeForce 2MX graphics.

Application launch times are incredible improved.

Busemann · Jun 25, 2003, 03:49 PM

They also fixed the "scrollbars stick at the top when pushing z in a long list of files in list view bug"

Thanks!

Skywalkers new Hand · Jun 25, 2003, 03:53 PM

We heard this all before from 10.0 to 10.2

Things should faster then an instant by now

Busemann · Jun 25, 2003, 03:55 PM

Originally posted by Skywalkers new Hand:
We heard this all before from 10.0 to 10.2

Things should faster then an instant by now

Well, if its any comfort, Finder is noticeably slower at resizing now.

Mike the Knife · Jun 25, 2003, 04:01 PM

Let me be the first, or second, or maybe third, to say that expose is FAST, even on my 667mhz TiBook.

Really fast.

daydreamer · Jun 25, 2003, 04:01 PM

Originally posted by Busemann:
Well, if its any comfort, Finder is noticeably slower at resizing now.

This is something that has always been there in OSX, the resizing of windows lags a bit , the corner of the window never really sticks 100% to the mouse cursor... I have the WWDC preview to and Panther doesn't really feel faster than Jaguar , up till now, but it doesn't feel slower either, bout the same... I guess these thing will only vanish on a G5.

Skywalkers new Hand · Jun 25, 2003, 04:17 PM

Originally posted by daydreamer:
I have the WWDC preview to and Panther doesn't really feel faster than Jaguar , up till now, but it doesn't feel slower either, bout the same... I guess these thing will only vanish on a G5.

Funny how half the people say it is totally fast and the other half say it isn't any faster at all.

That is what all these comments on the speed are total CRAPOLA!

Saetre · Jun 25, 2003, 04:25 PM

It is day and night faster on my 1ghz powerbook. I didn't notice much of a difference when updating from 10.1 to jag...this is just nuts fast...although i had it slow down on me after about a day of use. Rebootinf fixed that. Hopefully all will be well.

I was really just hoping it wouldnt get slower...this is almost as nice as the boost from 10.0 to 10.1....much less needed though...

I was expecting a buggy piece of crap...this is just heaven...im so glad i didnt get that ibm thinkpad last month when it came time to get a new laptop...up until now i wasnt sure if i made the right choice...

the finder needs work though...network access is improved but it is hideous and inefficient with space...

::maroma:: · Jun 25, 2003, 04:41 PM

Perceived OS speed is relative. There are so many factors that go into measuring the speed by perception alone. Always take speed comments with a grain of salt.

ckohler · Jun 25, 2003, 04:42 PM

Originally posted by Skywalkers new Hand:
[B]Funny how half the people say it is totally fast and the other half say it isn't any faster at all.

No, it's completely logical. Look at it another way, if 80 of 100 random Mac users say Panther is faster then you likely have an 80% chance of it being faster for you. Yet you always have 50/50 odds it won't be faster because you A) have a different config and B) your expectations are unique.

Skywalkers new Hand · Jun 25, 2003, 04:47 PM

Originally posted by ::maroma:::
Perceived OS speed is relative. There are so many factors that go into measuring the speed by perception alone. Always take speed comments with a grain of salt.

I am, totally ignore them actually.

Miniryu · Jun 25, 2003, 05:01 PM

I know people keep asking about how well Panther works on older machines, but I have a Performa and I wanted to know if it will run on that? I hope I don't have to buy a new machine, damn I hate Apple for forcing everyone to upgrade thier hardware all the time!!!!!

brainchild2b · Jun 25, 2003, 05:03 PM

This is not a perceived speed issue.

It really is the big one.

I've been testing previews since Rahpodsody. this one is way faster it's not a just you have a clean install overall speed. And it's nothing like jaguar. It's a huge difference.
Huge.

I've installed it on 7 machines now, and all have the same effect.

If you doubt it then tough for you.

brainchild2b · Jun 25, 2003, 05:06 PM

performa? That thing is like 40 years old. don't hell at apple, blame yourself.

You should budget for new computer equipment.

Skywalkers new Hand · Jun 25, 2003, 05:17 PM

Originally posted by brainchild2b:
This is not a perceived speed issue.

It really is the big one.

I've been testing previews since Rahpodsody. this one is way faster it's not a just you have a clean install overall speed. And it's nothing like jaguar. It's a huge difference.
Huge.

I've installed it on 7 machines now, and all have the same effect.

If you doubt it then tough for you.

You're they same smartass that smashed his Apple mouse with a hammer cuz it didn't have a second button right?

::maroma:: · Jun 25, 2003, 07:17 PM

Originally posted by brainchild2b:
performa? That thing is like 40 years old. don't hell at apple, blame yourself.

You should budget for new computer equipment.

I think that his post was a joke.

(....at least I hope it was!

)

Mac Guru · Jun 25, 2003, 07:30 PM

Tested over a FIREWIRE connected HD to a 500 MHz iBook, not one chug, burp or slowdown, Panther is what we've been whining for...

As for all of these dang Panther threads PLEASE can't we just consolidate???

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