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Image server hiccups - I think I know why
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Mac Elite
Join Date: May 2001
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It just happened to me again and I turned on iCab's log feature, then tried to load a single picture and looked at the log.
The interesting part was a cookie that was being sent:
bbthreadview=a%3A28%3A%7Bi%3A171799%3Bi%3A10610128 98%3Bi%3A172502%3Bi%3A1060950472%3Bi%3A172428%3Bi% 3A1060915421%3Bi%3A172474%3Bi%3A1060958223%3Bi%3A1 72513%3Bi%3A1060958640%3Bi%3A172422%3Bi%3A10609598 08%3Bi%3A172519%3Bi%3A1060960119%3Bi%3A172510%3Bi% 3A1060968833%3Bi%3A172467%3Bi%3A1060960606%3Bi%3A1 72548%3Bi%3A1061013200%3Bi%3A172147%3Bi%3A10609609 32%3Bi%3A172228%3Bi%3A1060966696%3Bi%3A171844%3Bi% 3A1060968879%3Bi%3A172549%3Bi%3A1060969280%3Bi%3A1 70725%3Bi%3A1060969292%3Bi%3A172551%3Bi%3A10610160 28%3Bi%3A172394%3Bi%3A1060979364%3Bi%3A172395%3Bi% 3A1060979373%3Bi%3A165932%3Bi%3A1060979656%3Bi%3A1 72584%3Bi%3A1061013391%3Bi%3A172585%3Bi%3A10609824 64%3Bi%3A172586%3Bi%3A1060983711%3Bi%3A172334%3Bi% 3A1060983971%3Bi%3A166205%3Bi%3A1061013714%3Bi%3A1 65869%3Bi%3A1061014354%3Bi%3A171147%3Bi%3A10610146 27%3Bi%3A172621%3Bi%3A1061016130%3Bi%3A172615%3Bi% 3A1061018578%3B%7D;
And yes, I thought the same that it might be a bit long. Now I turned just that cookie off, left all others as they were, and bingo, image loads fine. Turned it on again just to check and I get that 400 response again.
So it seems that a) the info in that cookie does not get (properly) purged and it just grows with the time, and b) the image server chokes when it is force fed too big cookies.
This cookie expires with the browser session, so restarting the browser or flushing the cookies does help this until the problem is fixed on the server side.
Happy bug fixing
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Professional Poster
Join Date: May 2001
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I have experienced the image server problems twice in the last 2 days...
On each occasion clearing the cookies in Safari fixed it.
Looks like there could be something to this errant cookie as the possible cause...
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woah
a%3A29%3A%7Bi%3A172755%3Bi%3A1061694261%3Bi%3A1735 85%3Bi%3A1061855980%3Bi%3A173140%3Bi%3A1061696960% 3Bi%3A173250%3Bi%3A1061703247%3Bi%3A173747%3Bi%3A1 061846881%3Bi%3A172127%3Bi%3A1061781425%3Bi%3A1737 17%3Bi%3A1061781450%3Bi%3A173770%3Bi%3A1061820168% 3Bi%3A173245%3Bi%3A1061859445%3Bi%3A173484%3Bi%3A1 061785136%3Bi%3A173776%3Bi%3A1061786261%3Bi%3A1737 91%3Bi%3A1061848483%3Bi%3A173889%3Bi%3A1061856259% 3Bi%3A173054%3Bi%3A1061856303%3Bi%3A169705%3Bi%3A1 061856339%3Bi%3A173734%3Bi%3A1061856398%3Bi%3A1738 26%3Bi%3A1061856483%3Bi%3A173168%3Bi%3A1061856623% 3Bi%3A173847%3Bi%3A1061856654%3Bi%3A173007%3Bi%3A1 061856712%3Bi%3A173583%3Bi%3A1061856861%3Bi%3A1722 24%3Bi%3A1061856887%3Bi%3A172571%3Bi%3A1061856991% 3Bi%3A173822%3Bi%3A1061857141%3Bi%3A173805%3Bi%3A1 061857202%3Bi%3A173472%3Bi%3A1061857252%3Bi%3A1736 49%3Bi%3A1061859219%3Bi%3A173798%3Bi%3A1061859413% 3Bi%3A172639%3Bi%3A1061859491%3B%7D
Can you repost it in the omniweb thread in software?
It's probably a webcore bug, but the omnigroup is much more responsive and responsible regarding fixing bugs (and I use omniweb )
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Originally posted by Scotttheking:
woah
Can you repost it in the omniweb thread in software?
It's probably a webcore bug, but the omnigroup is much more responsive and responsible regarding fixing bugs (and I use omniweb )
iCab does not use webcore (does OmniWeb?).
I was now able to fix this behaviour a few more times by just deleting that single cookie.
So it looks to me like I said above, that the vBulletin script just appends data to that cookie without ever deleting old parts of it which makes it grow with the time, and when it's grown larger than some size the image server (www4.macnn.com running Boa) responds with a 400 error rather than the requested pic.
It appears that a fix has to be done in the vBulletin code since increasing some buffer size in the webserver might only help for a while until the cookie outgrows it. But if you think the Omni Group might be of help, feel free to copy anything over there
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Professional Poster
Join Date: Nov 2000
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So that's why Safari stops loading all images in the forum sometimes? A restart of the browser fix it.
Or perhaps I don't have a clue what you guys are talking about..
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Sniffer gone old-school sig
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Mac Elite
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Hey wow! I haven't had images on here for about 3 weeks now! Just went and deleted the macnn.com cookies (Safari) and now they load.
Nice
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Mac Elite
Join Date: Apr 2003
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Well sometimes the images don't load for me either. And I use Camino (which is not webcore based, just like iCab). It's indeed the cookie.
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Administrator
Join Date: Mar 2000
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i've reported this problem to people who can fix such things. i'll get back to you folks once i hear more.
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Mac Elite
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Originally posted by Demonhood:
i've reported this problem to people who can fix such things. i'll get back to you folks once i hear more.
Not that I expected to get mentioned in MacNN's scroll of honor immediately when I started this thread, but it's nice to see someone cares about.
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2002
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Any progress on this front? It is most definitely the problem for me.
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Senior User
Join Date: Jan 1999
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Yes, how goes this?
I was starting to think of a Konfabulator widget that would strip the offending entry from Cookies.plist.
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