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SimeyTheLimey · Mar 1, 2003, 03:49 PM

I think we can all agree that this is good news.

ISLAMABAD (Reuters) - Pakistan said it had arrested the suspected mastermind behind the September 11 attacks, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, on Saturday in a major breakthrough in the international crackdown against Osama bin Laden's network.

I Bent My Wookiee · Mar 1, 2003, 03:50 PM

So why the heck have they not found bin Laden when he was really the one behind it?

daimoni · 08:50 PM

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I Bent My Wookiee · Mar 1, 2003, 04:33 PM

Originally posted by daimoni:
Patience. Young Wookie. Patience.

Osama Bin Laden can't do everything single-handedly. He's not a terrorist network of one.

You have to chop the heads off the Hydra on neck at a time.

Well over a year seems long for someone with so many spy planes.

snotnose · Mar 1, 2003, 04:40 PM

you wookie intuition is still growing. jk, i think bin laden will be found maybe in the next 3 months, dead, committing suicide. what a pathetic infidel he is...

Zimmerman · Mar 1, 2003, 04:59 PM

Originally posted by SimeyTheLimey:
I think we can all agree that this is good news.

Well, I don't use it much, but I feel its time to break out the

Zimphire · Mar 1, 2003, 04:59 PM

Originally posted by I Bent My Wookiee:
Well over a year seems long for someone with so many spy planes.

A WHOLE YEAR!?!?! WOW

Damn they work slow.

I Bent My Wookiee · Mar 1, 2003, 05:22 PM

Originally posted by Zimphire:
A WHOLE YEAR!?!?! WOW

Damn they work slow.

Sorry, 17 months and they still can't find the most wanted man in the world.

Zimphire · Mar 1, 2003, 05:27 PM

Originally posted by I Bent My Wookiee:
Sorry, 17 months and they still can't find the most wanted man in the world.

Most think Osama is dead.

I suppose Canada could have done a better job?

When was the last time you put together a team to find the most wanted man in the World? How long did it take you?

voodoo · Mar 1, 2003, 05:54 PM

Originally posted by I Bent My Wookiee:
So why the heck have they not found bin Laden when he was really the one behind it?

The Wookie speaks wisely. Even if OBL isn't a terrorist network of one, *he* was the mastermind of 9/11 and the top Al-Qaida leader.

Congratulations on cathing him, good work and all, but no need to blow this out of proporion.

One step closer to OBL. No need to pet yourself on the back just yet.

Ozmodiar · Mar 1, 2003, 05:55 PM

Originally posted by Zimphire:
When was the last time you put together a team to find the most wanted man in the World? How long did it take you?

He has a point. Trying to find one person out of several billion can't be that easy.

Zimphire · Mar 1, 2003, 06:00 PM

Originally posted by Ozmodiar:
He has a point. Trying to find one person out of several billion can't be that easy.

Esp when said man has a lot of money and backing to hide himself. A year is nothing.

xtal · Mar 1, 2003, 06:10 PM

Originally posted by daimoni:
You have to chop the heads off the Hydra on neck at a time.

Agreed. Let's hope that two don't grow back in every chopped one's place.

Psychonaut · Mar 1, 2003, 06:23 PM

Does anyone know how old he is? He didn't look rather healthy in the last video he released. Could be that old age or some disease/condition (he does require a dialysis machine if I remember correctly) might get him before we ever do. That, or he gets eaten by a Sarlacc pit.

xtal · Mar 1, 2003, 06:26 PM

Originally posted by Psychonaut:
Does anyone know how old he is

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontl...n/who/bio.html

macvillage.net · Mar 1, 2003, 06:40 PM

Originally posted by I Bent My Wookiee:
So why the heck have they not found bin Laden when he was really the one behind it?

Honestly... cause they really don't want to. Strategy really... look at it this way:

We capture him, someone will takeover for him. He's just a figurehead... Just like if Bush died, the US government doesn't go away... it will continue to run, our defense will still be there, congress will be there... everything will go on.

Secondly, and most important... The clausewitz....

Every war must have a clear obtainable goal. "Get Bin Laden" is a good clear, focal point that everyone agrees on. It's easy.... Now to do it, we must follow steps 1-1million.... but there is 1 clear obtainable goal.

If we caught Bin Laden... hunt over. 1 obtainable goal done... Then Bush has to rally people for yet another goal... not an easy task.

Yes this is silly, and really just mind games... but it's been the US war strategy for some time, and many other militaries use the same... and it works.

The one time this wasn't evident in our history (Vietnam)... look what happened.

NeoMac · Mar 1, 2003, 11:21 PM

Khalid Sheikh Mohammed will be experiencing the joys of a cattle prod to his nuts this evening.

bzzzzzzzz ... bzzzzzzzzzz

snotnose · Mar 1, 2003, 11:25 PM

Originally posted by NeoMac:
Khalid Sheikh Mohammed will be experiencing the joys of a cattle prod to his nuts this evening.

bzzzzzzzz ... bzzzzzzzzzz

they should do that regardless. he is going to claim they did either way, so they should twist those things til he passes out then do it again and again...

macvillage.net · Mar 1, 2003, 11:42 PM

Originally posted by NeoMac:
Khalid Sheikh Mohammed will be experiencing the joys of a cattle prod to his nuts this evening.

bzzzzzzzz ... bzzzzzzzzzz

Actually, I was hoping he would get a chance to experience gay prison rape.

<-- Kind of like this, just a giant ____ instad of a stick... in the backdoor.

spacefreak · Mar 2, 2003, 12:13 PM

Originally posted by Zimphire:
I suppose Canada could have done a better job?

They'd have done a better job of being a host.

Mar 2, 2003, 06:03 PM

Originally posted by spacefreak:
They'd have done a better job of being a host.

Explain.

macvillage.net · Mar 2, 2003, 07:58 PM

Good thing is he's being taken to an "undisclosed location"... a few months ago on TV, the explantion was that this involves handing him over to another company for interogation (since we can't abuse a prisoner... other countries will have no problem doing so).

Good system eh?

zigzag · Mar 2, 2003, 08:20 PM

Originally posted by I Bent My Wookiee:
So why the heck have they not found bin Laden when he was really the one behind it?

bin Laden is working at a Kentucky Fried Chicken in Trenton, New Jersey. No one in their right mind would go there, so he's considered safe for the time being.

I Bent My Wookiee · Mar 2, 2003, 08:33 PM

Originally posted by Zimphire:
Most think Osama is dead.

I suppose Canada could have done a better job?

When was the last time you put together a team to find the most wanted man in the World? How long did it take you?

Give me an unlimited amount of money and I will nab him in 20 minutes.

rambo47 · Mar 2, 2003, 11:57 PM

Now let's shoot this rat fsck up with Scapalomine and listen to him blather about all his assh0le buddies. A couple of SEAL teams should wrap it up nicely once they have hard intel on locations.

Zimphire · Mar 3, 2003, 03:10 AM

Originally posted by I Bent My Wookiee:
Give me an unlimited amount of money and I will nab him in 20 minutes.

Just like OJ looking for Nichols murderers on the Golf course, you'd be searching for him in ever gay bar in Canada.

dillerX · Mar 3, 2003, 06:55 AM

Originally posted by Zimphire:
Just like OJ looking for Nichols murderers on the Golf course, you'd be searching for him in ever gay bar in Canada.

I must admit. That right there was funny.

Superchicken · Mar 3, 2003, 07:16 AM

10 bucks says they've had benladin all year what do you think they have area 51 for? They've still got hitler there too

typoon · Mar 3, 2003, 07:49 AM

Capturing him is almost as important as capturing Bin Ladin. I mean he did plan the attacks on the WTC and supposedly according to Newsweek he had other cells planning on slicing the cables on a suspension bridge in NYC. He is probably the highest ranking person they have captured from Al Qaida. I would think this is a Major win for the feds and the "war" on terrorism

SimeyTheLimey · Mar 3, 2003, 08:00 AM

Originally posted by typoon:
I would think this is a Major win for the feds and the "war" on terrorism

Several commentators over the weekend also made the intelligent observation that this capture severely undermines the argument that we can't fight the war on terror and confront Iraq at the same time. The fact is they can and arre being conducted simultaneously because the means used are completely different. One involves armies, the other involves intelligence agencies and police forces.

Logic · Mar 3, 2003, 08:05 AM

Originally posted by SimeyTheLimey:
Several commentators over the weekend also made the intelligent observation that this capture severely undermines the argument that we can't fight the war on terror and confront Iraq at the same time. The fact is they can and arre being conducted simultaneously because the means used are completely different. One involves armies, the other involves intelligence agencies and police forces.

But what about the cost of doing these things simultaneously? It costs a fortune to do these things at the same time, and therefor it would be best to focus on one thing at a time.

SimeyTheLimey · 08:50 AM

Originally posted by Logic:
But what about the cost of doing these things simultaneously? It costs a fortune to do these things at the same time, and therefor it would be best to focus on one thing at a time.

The dollar cost of the war on terror probably isn't that high. The intelligence and police resources used already exist. It is just a matter of directing them and giving that effort priority over other things. The trade off is probably against things like drug interdiction and environmental monitoring, both of which were given to the intelligence community in the 1990s mainly in order to keep them busy.

The costly portion is confronting Iraq. Given the fear that is driving the policy - that Iraq could not only acquire nuclear weapons in addition to their current WMD stockpiles, but also act as a WalMart for terrorists - I would ask what the potential cost is of not acting. The human and economic costs of the Sept 11th attacks would pale besides the cost of an attack on a western city (e.g my city, surely the #1 target). I therefore think the costs of acting early are far less than the cost of waiting until it is too late.

Besides, why are you worrying about the financial cost? It isn't as though it is going to cost you a penny either way.

scottiB · Mar 3, 2003, 08:55 AM

Khalid Shaikh Mohammed IS RON JEREMY!?!

zigzag · Mar 3, 2003, 09:27 AM

Originally posted by scottiB:
Khalid Shaikh Mohammed IS RON JEREMY!?!

LOL - it's true!

There goes his last hope of getting invited to the Lincoln Bedroom . . .

boots · Mar 3, 2003, 09:54 AM

Originally posted by scottiB:
Khalid Shaikh Mohammed IS RON JEREMY!?!

That's probably the funniest thing I've heard/seen in weeks! Thanks:

May God have mercy on his soul....because we certainly won't.

typoon · Mar 3, 2003, 10:36 AM

When they are done interrogating him put him in with the GP in prison. I'm sure they would be more than happy to take care of him

davesimondotcom · Mar 3, 2003, 10:49 AM

Originally posted by scottiB:
Khalid Shaikh Mohammed IS RON JEREMY!?!

Now that is some funny sh*t.

Zimphire · Mar 3, 2003, 01:33 PM

Originally posted by SimeyTheLimey:
Several commentators over the weekend also made the intelligent observation that this capture severely undermines the argument that we can't fight the war on terror and confront Iraq at the same time. The fact is they can and arre being conducted simultaneously because the means used are completely different. One involves armies, the other involves intelligence agencies and police forces.

Exactly.

typoon · Mar 3, 2003, 04:44 PM

MSNBC just posted an article on how his Capture might be more important than even the Capture of Bin Ladin.

http://www.msnbc.com/news/879516.asp

awaspaas · Mar 3, 2003, 04:53 PM

Bush's response to capture of 9/11 mastermind: "We must immediately invade Iraq!"