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Sealobo
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Nov 25, 2003, 05:31 PM
 
Everybody post a quote you like!

I will start:

"Every man gets a narrower and narrower field of knowledge in which he must be an expert in order to compete with other people. The specialist knows more and more about less and less and finally knows everything about nothing."

~ Konrad Lorenz
     
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Nov 25, 2003, 05:37 PM
 
In the realm of scientific observation, luck is granted only to those who are prepared.

-Albert Hofmann

If Heaven has a dress code, I'm walkin to Hell in my Tony Lamas.
     
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Nov 25, 2003, 05:42 PM
 

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"Wise man once say, men with large sigs have small..."

Well, you know the rest.
( Last edited by Sig Nazi; Nov 25, 2003 at 06:20 PM. )
     
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Nov 25, 2003, 05:43 PM
 
"To alcohol... the cause of, and solution to, all of life's problems." - Homer J. Simpson
     
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Nov 25, 2003, 06:15 PM
 
Originally posted by Sig Nazi:
"Wise man once say, men with large sigs have small..."

Well, you know the rest.
How bout not .....

Notice how he didn't include retarded in his title before "Quotes"
     
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Nov 25, 2003, 06:20 PM
 
"If you dont enjoy what you have, how could you be happier with more?"
- Mark Twain

"There is one thing stronger than all the armies in the world, and that is an idea whose time has come."
-Victor Hugo
     
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Nov 25, 2003, 06:21 PM
 
"There's no point in being grown up if you can't be childish sometimes."

-Doctor Who (Tom Baker)

"I'm for anything that gets you through the night, be it prayer, tranquilizers, or a bottle of Jack Daniel's."
     
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Nov 25, 2003, 06:23 PM
 
"I want my monkey brains well done!"
-- "Bob" to cook at Dobbstown, Malaysia
     
Sig Nazi
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Nov 25, 2003, 06:24 PM
 
Originally posted by Dex13:
How bout not .....

Notice how he didn't include retarded in his title before "Quotes"
Why do people insist on using the word "retarded" like you do?

Sigh...

Oh, and Dex13, thank you for complying with signature regulations. Have a nice day.
     
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Nov 25, 2003, 06:27 PM
 
"Imagine listening to Beethoven with the prepossession that C is a good note and F a bad one; yet this is exactly the standpoint from which all uninitiates contemplate the universe._ Obviously, they miss the music."

-Aleister Crowley
"Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must, like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it."
- Thomas Paine
     
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Nov 25, 2003, 06:45 PM
 
Apple related quote....
So we went to Atari and said, 'Hey, we've got this amazing thing, even built with some of your parts, and what do you think about funding us?
Or we' ll give it to you. We just want to do it. Pay our salary, we'll come work for you.' And they said, 'No.'
So then we went to Hewlett-Packard, and they said, 'Hey, we don't need you. You haven't got through college yet.'"

Apple Computer Inc. founder Steve Jobs on attempts to get Atari and H-P interested in his and Steve Wozniak's personal computer.
     
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Nov 25, 2003, 06:53 PM
 
"Aaah...a bear in his natural habitat...a Studebaker."
- Fozzy Bear, The Muppet Movie

"Vice, virtue...it's best not to be too moral. You cheat yourself out of too much life. Aim above morality. If you apply that to life, then you're bound to live it fully."
- Maude, Harold and Maude
     
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Nov 25, 2003, 06:57 PM
 
Quayle-isms...


"If we don't succeed, we run the risk of failure."
-- Vice President Dan Quayle, to the Phoenix Republican Forum, 3/23/90 (reported in Esquire, /92) Also reported by Reuters, 5/2/90

"Republicans understand the importance of bondage between a mother and child."
-- Senator Dan Quayle, US News and World Report (10/10/88)

"Mars is essentially in the same orbit... Mars is somewhat the same distance from the Sun, which is very important. We have seen pictures where there are canals, we believe, and water. If there is water, that means there is oxygen. If oxygen, that means we can breathe."
-- Vice President Dan Quayle, 8/11/89 (reported in Esquire, 8/92)

"What a waste it is to lose one's mind. Or not to have a mind is being very wasteful. How true that is."
-- Vice President Dan Quayle winning friends while speaking to the United Negro College Fund, 5/9/89 (reported in Esquire, 8/92) (reported in the NY Times, 12/9/92)

"The Holocaust was an obscene period in our nation's history. I mean in this century's history. But we all lived in this century. I didn't live in this century."
-- Senator Dan Quayle, 9/15/88 (reported in Esquire, 8/92, The New Yorker, 10/10/88, p.102)

"I believe we are on an irreversible trend toward more freedom and democracy - but that could change."
-- Vice President Dan Quayle, 5/22/89 (reported in Esquire, 8/92)

"One word sums up probably the responsibility of any vice president, and that one word is 'to be prepared.'"
-- Vice President Dan Quayle, 12/6/89 (reported in Esquire, 8/92)

"May our nation continue to be the beacon of hope to the world."
-- The Quayles' 1989 Christmas card. [Not a beacon of literacy, though.]

"Verbosity leads to unclear, inarticulate things."
-- Senator Dan Quayle, 10/30/88 (reported in Esquire, 8/92 and the LA Times, 10/30/88)

"We don't want to go back to tomorrow, we want to go forward."
-- Vice President Dan Quayle

"I have made good judgments in the Past. I have made good judgments in the Future."
-- Vice President Dan Quayle

"The future will be better tomorrow."
-- Vice President Dan Quayle

"We're going to have the best-educated American people in the world."
-- Senator Dan Quayle, 9/21/88 (reported in Esquire, 8/92)

"And it was a very good book of Rasputin's involvement in that, which shows how people that are really very weird can get into sensitive positions and have a tremendous impact on history."
-- Senator Dan Quayle gives his opinion of the book 'Nicholas and Alexandra,' to Hendrick Hertzberg of the New Republic, 9/28/88 (reported in Savvy Woman, 1/89, p. 56)

"I stand by all the misstatements that I've made."
-- Vice President Dan Quayle to Sam Donaldson, 8/17/89 (reported in Esquire, 8/92)

"We have a firm commitment to NATO, we are a *part* of NATO. We have a firm commitment to Europe. We are a *part* of Europe."
-- Vice President Dan Quayle

"Public speaking is very easy."
-- Senator Dan Quayle to reporters in 10/88

"I am not part of the problem. I am a Republican."
-- Vice President Dan Quayle

"I love California, I practically grew up in Phoenix."
-- Vice President Dan Quayle

"A low voter turnout is an indication of fewer people going to the polls."
-- Vice President Dan Quayle

"When I have been asked during these last weeks who caused the riots and the killing in L.A., my answer has been direct and simple: Who is to blame for the riots? The rioters are to blame. Who is to blame for the killings? The killers are to blame."
-- Vice President Dan Quayle giving an intelligent, in-depth analysis of the LA riots. (during the Commonwealth Club speech 5/19/92)

"Illegitimacy is something we should talk about in terms of not having it."
-- Vice President Dan Quayle, 5/20/92 (reported in Esquire, 8/92)

"Murphy Brown is doing better than I am. At least she knows she still has a job next year."
-- Vice President Dan Quayle, 8/18/92, (reported on

KRXX News)

"We are ready for any unforeseen event that may or may not occur."
-- Vice President Dan Quayle talking about the Mideast situation, 9/22/90 (reported in Esquire, 8/92)

"For NASA, space is still a high priority."
-- Vice President Dan Quayle, talking to NASA employees, 9/5/90 (reported in Esquire, 8/92)

"Quite frankly, teachers are the only profession that teach our children."
-- Vice President Dan Quayle, 9/18/90 (reported in Esquire, 8/92)

"The American people would not want to know of any misquotes that Dan Quayle may or may not make."
-- Vice President Dan Quayle, in a speech to the American Society of Newspaper Editors, April 1991

"We're all capable of mistakes, but I do not care to enlighten you on the mistakes we may or may not have made." -- Vice President Dan Quayle, (USA Today 4/22/92)

"It isn't pollution that's harming the environment. It's the impurities in our air and water that are doing it."
-- Vice President Dan Quayle

"I was recently on a tour of Latin America, and the only regret I have was that I didn't study Latin harder in school so I could converse with those people."
-- J. Danforth Quayle

"The US has a vital interest in that area of the country."
-- Vice President Dan Quayle referring to Latin America.

"[It's] time for the human race to enter the solar system."
-- Vice President Dan Quayle on the concept of a manned mission to Mars.

"Tobacco exports should be expanded aggressively because Americans are smoking less."
-- Vice President Dan Quayle, 1990 (reported by IPS, 8/14/92).

"I want to be Robin to Bush's Batman."
-- Senator Dan Quayle
     
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Nov 25, 2003, 07:22 PM
 
"Ernest Hemmingway once wrote, "The world is a fine place, and worth fighting for". I agree with the second part."

-Morgan Freeman, Se7en
     
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Nov 25, 2003, 07:34 PM
 
"I often quote myself. It adds spice to my conversation."

-George Bernard Shaw


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Nov 25, 2003, 07:58 PM
 
"Christianity is the most perverted system that ever shone on man."
�Thomas Jefferson
     
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Nov 25, 2003, 09:02 PM
 
One of my favorites:

Just as there is a moment when the artist must stop, when the sculpture must be left as it is, the painting untouched - just as a determination not to know serves the maker more than all the resources of clairvoyance - so there must be a minimum of ignorance in order to perfect a life in happiness. Those who lack such a thing must set about acquiring it: unintelligence must be earned.

-Albert Camus, A Happy Death

I'm with stupid
---->
     
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Nov 25, 2003, 09:06 PM
 
Originally posted by Algernnon:
One of my favorites:

Just as there is a moment when the artist must stop, when the sculpture must be left as it is, the painting untouched - just as a determination not to know serves the maker more than all the resources of clairvoyance - so there must be a minimum of ignorance in order to perfect a life in happiness. Those who lack such a thing must set about acquiring it: unintelligence must be earned.

-Albert Camus, A Happy Death
     
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Nov 25, 2003, 09:14 PM
 
Beware the leader who bangs the drums of war in order to whip the citizenry into a patriotic fervor, for patriotism is indeed a double-edged sword. It both emboldens the blood, just as it narrows the mind. And when the drums of war reached a fever pitch and the blood boils with hate and the mind has 'closed', the leader will have no need in seizing the rights of the citizenry. Rather, the citizenry, infused with fear and blinded by patriotism, will offer up all their rights unto the leader and gladly so. How do I know? For this is what I have done. AND I AM CAESAR." -- George W. Bush... err, I mean Caesar.
"…I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than
you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods,
you will understand why I dismiss yours." - Stephen F. Roberts
     
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Nov 25, 2003, 09:20 PM
 
"This...this is Kent. This is what happens to people when they get too sexually frustrated."

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Nov 26, 2003, 04:04 AM
 
Two of my favorites:

The moving finger writes; and, having writ,
Moves on: nor all your piety nor wit
Shall lure back to cancel half a line,
Nor all your tears wash out a word of it.
-Omar Khayy�n, from The Rub�iy�t.

Wear your learning, like your watch, in a private pocket, and do not pull it out and strike it merely to show you have one. If you are asked what o'clock it is, tell it, but do not proclaim it hourly and unasked, like the watchman.
-Lord Chesterfield

"I think of lotteries as a tax on the mathematically challenged." -- Roger Jones
     
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Nov 26, 2003, 04:11 AM
 
"I contend we are both atheists, I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours." - Stephen F. Roberts

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Nov 26, 2003, 08:38 AM
 
"The only time man actually leaves a physical mark upon this earth is in death, and even then it is only a gravestone proclaiming his demise"

..Suprz, 1999.


"it is far better to win glorious victories even though checkered by defeat, then to live in the grey twilight with those poor tortured souls that neither know victory or defeat"

..unknown...
"Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds"...Albert Einstein
     
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Nov 26, 2003, 09:12 AM
 
www.Dictionary.com
F�CK

Pronunciation Key (fk) Vulgar Slang
v. F�CKed, F�CKing, F�CKs

1. To have sexual intercourse with.
2. To take advantage of, betray, or cheat; victimize.
3. Used in the imperative as a signal of angry dismissal.


v. intr.

1. To engage in sexual intercourse.
2. To act wastefully or foolishly.
3. To interfere; meddle. Often used with with.


n.

1. An act of sexual intercourse.
2. A partner in sexual intercourse.
3. A despised person.
4. Used as an intensive: What the F�CK did you do that for?


interj.

Used to express extreme displeasure.

Phrasal Verbs:
F�CK off

1. Used in the imperative as a signal of angry dismissal.
2. To spend time idly.
3. To masturbate.

F�CK over

To treat unfairly; take advantage of.
F�CK up

1. To make a mistake; bungle something.
2. To act carelessly, foolishly, or incorrectly.
3. To cause to be intoxicated.


[Middle English, attested in pseudo-Latin fuccant, (they) F�CK deciphered from gxddbov.]
Word History: The obscenity F�CK is a very old word and has been considered shocking from the first, though it is seen in print much more often now than in the past. Its first known occurrence, in code because of its unacceptability, is in a poem composed in a mixture of Latin and English sometime before 1500. The poem, which satirizes the Carmelite friars of Cambridge, England, takes its title, �Flen flyys,� from the first words of its opening line, �Flen, flyys, and freris,� that is, �fleas, flies, and friars.� The line that contains F�CK reads �Non sunt in coeli, quia gxddbov xxkxzt pg ifmk.� The Latin words �Non sunt in coeli, quia,� mean �they [the friars] are not in heaven, since.� The code �gxddbov xxkxzt pg ifmk� is easily broken by simply substituting the preceding letter in the alphabet, keeping in mind differences in the alphabet and in spelling between then and now: i was then used for both i and j; v was used for both u and v; and vv was used for w. This yields �fvccant [a fake Latin form] vvivys of heli.� The whole thus reads in translation: �They are not in heaven because they F�CK wives of Ely [a town near Cambridge].�
     
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Nov 26, 2003, 09:15 AM
 
Argue your limitations and, sure enough, they're yours.

The image is a dream, the beauty is real.

You teach best what you most need to learn.

The best way to avoid responsibility is to say, "I've got responsibilities."
-- The Messiah's Handbook, Reminders for the Advanced Soul

     
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Nov 26, 2003, 09:23 AM
 
Luck is where preparation meets opportunity

- Neil Peart
     
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Nov 26, 2003, 09:31 AM
 
"In a world of doors and fences, who needs Gates and Windows?"
     
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Nov 26, 2003, 09:46 AM
 
"Blessed be those who can laugh at themselves, for we shall never cease to be amused." -anon
     
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Nov 26, 2003, 11:42 AM
 
"Ideas may grow out of the problem itself, which in turn becomes part of the solution."

Paul Rand
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Nov 26, 2003, 12:11 PM
 
The fool says in his heart, "There is no God". - Psalms 14:1
"Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must, like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it."
- Thomas Paine
     
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Nov 26, 2003, 12:13 PM
 
From my random-signature pool:

Justify my text? I'm sorry but it has no excuse.

AAAAAA - American Association Against Acronym Abuse Anonymous

"Give me ambiguity or give me something else!"

APATHY ERROR: Don't bother striking any key.

Bad command or file name! Go stand in the corner!

My sister opened a computer store in Hawaii. She sells C shells by the
seashore.

CChheecckk yyoouurr dduupplleexx sswwiittcchh..

Dyslexic/agnostic/insomniac - n.) One who stays awake all night wondering
if there really is a Dog.

Earth is 98% full...please delete anyone you can.

It's like my granny used to say:
"Those folks are so uptown they've got Ethernet in the outhouse."

Who is General Failure and why is he reading my disk?

"He may look like an idiot and talk like an idiot but don't let that fool
you. He really is an idiot."
- Groucho Marx

I modem, but they grew back.

All wiyht. Rho sritched mg kegtops awound?

How do I set my laser printer on stun?

The best way to make a fire with two sticks is to make sure one of them is
a match.

Optimists see a glass that's half full.
Pessimists see a glass that's half empty.
Engineers see a glass that's twice as big as it needs to be.

"Out of my mind. Back in five minutes."

Mac OS X vs. Windows XP:
Typical Microsoft...Take something from another company then P on it.

If you want to know more about paranoids follow them around.

(If you can't hear me, it's because I'm in parentheses)

Borrow money from pessimists-they don't expect it back.

The world will end in 5 minutes. Please log out.

Puritanism: the haunting fear that somewhere, someone may be happy.

This message transmitted on 100% recycled electrons.

"Mr. Worf, scan that ship." "Aye, Captain... 300 DPI?"

#define QUESTION ((bb) || !(bb)) - Shakespeare.

"He who joyfully marches to music in rank and file has already earned my
contempt. He has been given a large brain by mistake, since for him the
spinal cord would fully suffice." -- Albert Einstein

...thump MEOW! thump MEOW! thump MEOW! thump...
"You're right; there isn't enough room to swing a cat in here."

Volume in Drive C: TOO_LOUD!

USER ERROR: Replace user and press any key when ready.

Sure it's user-friendly...if you know what you're doing.

The day Microsoft makes something that doesn't suck is probably the day
they start making vacuum cleaners.

"Very funny, Scotty. Now beam down my clothes."

chown -R us:us yourbase
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Nov 26, 2003, 12:28 PM
 
I originally included this in a reply to Superchic[k]en's "Lamenting Lost Love" post.


Superchi[k]en, you WILL love again. No doubt about it. I have carried this quote around in my wallet for going on 15 years now and it sums up my feeling about love and life very well. Take it for what it's worth.

"The essence of being human is that one does not seek perfection . . .
that one is prepared in the end to be defeated and broken up by life,
which is the inevitable price of fixing one's love upon other human individuals."
--George Orwell writing about Ghandi
One should never stop striving for clarity of thought and precision of expression.
I would prefer my humanity sullied with the tarnish of science rather than the gloss of religion.
     
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Nov 26, 2003, 12:28 PM
 
"Be nice to people on your way up because you might meet 'em on your way down." Jimmy Durante

"Never give in, never give in, never, never, never, never - in nothing, great or small, large or petty - never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense." Winston Churchill
     
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Nov 26, 2003, 01:19 PM
 
I am surrounded by priests [or pastors] who repeat incessantly that their kingdom is not of this world, and yet they lay hands on everything they can get.
-- Napoleon Bonaparte

It is not hardness of heart or evil passions that drive certain individuals to atheism, but rather a scrupulous intellectual honesty.
-- Steve Allen

If God would only give me a clear sign... like making a large deposit, in my name, in a Swiss bank.
-- Woody Allen

If asked whether I believe in God, I suppose I must reply that as soon as incontrovertible evidence for God's existence is presented to me, I will accept it.
-- Issac Asimov

To surrender to ignorance and call it God has always been premature, and it remains premature today.
-- Isaac Asimov

It's a vacuous answer . . . To say that 'God made the world' is simply a more or less sophisticated way of saying that we don't understand how the universe originated. A god, in so far as it is anything, is an admission of ignorance.
-- Peter Atkins
     
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Nov 26, 2003, 01:20 PM
 
The Christian god can be easily pictured as virtually the same as the many ancient gods of past civilizations. The Christian god is a three headed monster; cruel, vengeful and capricious. If one wishes to know more of this raging, three headed beast-like god, one only needs to look at the caliber of the people who say they serve him. They are always of two classes: fools and hypocrites.
-- Thomas Jefferson
     
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Nov 26, 2003, 01:25 PM
 
"I love you Spain!" - Whitney Houston, standing on a stage in Lisbon.

"How did you meet?" - Donna Air interviewing Irish folk/rock/pop siblings The Corrs.
     
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Nov 26, 2003, 02:18 PM
 
"to give less than your best is sacrifice the gift"

Steve Prefontaine
     
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Nov 26, 2003, 03:11 PM
 
"People like me sound like a lot of big cannons."

~ Chairman Mao
     
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Nov 26, 2003, 03:33 PM
 
Read my sig
"To create a new standard takes something that's not just a little bit different. It takes something that's really new and captures people's imaginations. Macintosh meets that standard"- Bill Gates
     
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Nov 26, 2003, 03:36 PM
 
"Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel."
� Dr. Johnson

"I desire what is good. Therefore, everyone who does not agree with me is a traitor."
� King George III
Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have found out the exact measure of injustice and wrong which will be imposed upon them.

-- Frederick Douglass, 1857
     
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Nov 26, 2003, 03:43 PM
 
"In ancient times skillful warriors first made themselves invincible, and then watched for vulnerability in their opponents.
Invincibility is in oneself, vulnerability is in the opponent.
Therefore skillful warriors are able to be invincible, but they cannot cause opponents to be vulnerable.
Therefore it can be said that one may know how to defeat his enemy but cannot necessarily do so."

~Sun Tzu
     
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Nov 26, 2003, 03:47 PM
 
If it ain't break, don't fix it.

Once a PC trolls, always be.

If you can't beat them, screw them.
     
Aiglos
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Nov 26, 2003, 05:18 PM
 
I probably sound like a sellout but...

"It is not our part to master all the tides of the world, but to do what is in us for the succour of the years wherein we are set, uprooting the evils in the field that we know, so those who come after have clean earth to till...What weather they shall have is not ours to rule."
-Gandalf (Tolkien in Return of the King)

I can't believe i remember that by heart...

"Nearly all marriages, even happy ones, are mistakes: in the sense that almost certainly (in a more perfect world, or even with a little more care in this very imperfect one) both partners might be found more suitable mates. But the real soul-mate is the one you are actually married to."
J. R. R. Tolkien, Letter to Michael Tolkien, March 1941

There's another real nice one where Gandalf talks to Frodo about those "who deserve death and those who deserve life. But I don't have the eexact quote with me at the moment.
     
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Nov 26, 2003, 08:16 PM
 
"I invented the Internet."

Some American guy....Gore POWER!!!



but honestly...

I find any Martin Luther King Jr. speeches, especially empowering...
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Nov 26, 2003, 08:26 PM
 
"Hey aren't you OBIE-WON-KA-LOOSER...?"

JIM ROME.
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Nov 26, 2003, 08:29 PM
 
i learned at a VERY young age that "forgiveness is a lot easier to get than permission."
     
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Nov 26, 2003, 10:20 PM
 
...if you love something, set it free. if it doesn't come back, hunt it down and kill it.

...it isn't how you pick your nose, it's where you put the boogers.

...you can pick your friends. you can pick your nose. but, you can't pick your friend's nose.

...have you tried staples?




     
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Nov 26, 2003, 10:39 PM
 
Originally posted by residentEvil:
...if you love something, set it free. if it doesn't come back, hunt it down and kill it.
LOL~
     
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Nov 26, 2003, 10:42 PM
 
oh, and i forgot the obvious ones...

...anything from full metal jacket.
     
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"There's no such thing as bad weather, just soft people"

-Bill Bowerman-
     
 
 
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