[Parky]

Just installing iLife '04 here in the UK.

It was available to buy this morning at UK resellers.

Please post any questions if you have them.

Ian

[gorickey]

Build #'s?

[Parky]

As requested the build numbers are :-

iTunes 4.2 - (72)
iMovie 4.0 - Not shown in the about box
iPhoto 4.0 - (4C4)
iDVD 4.0 - Not shown in the about box
GarageBand 1.0 - (7)

Ian

[gorickey]

Let us know what you think of the updates after you are done playing/trying them out...

[Parky]

Feedback so far :-

iTunes - same as before no upgrade

iMovie - loads much quicker, seems more responsive

iPhoto - took about 2 mins to convert the 976 photos I have loaded, loads quite quickly and scrolling is now great, very quick

iDVD - Still takes a while to load, new theme very creative.

GarageBand - IT'S GREAT, already making music, really slick and quick, superb quality sounds

Ian

[Busemann]

Originally posted by Parky:

iPhoto 4.0 - (4C4)

I've had this one for the last week and i was completely sure this was just a beta, as its very buggy..

[gorickey]

Originally posted by Busemann:
I've had this one for the last week and i was completely sure this was just a beta, as its very buggy..

What's buggy?

[Parky]

Well (4C4) is the version in the final package.

Let's hope it was a 'suite' problem.

Ian

[Parky]

Everything installed much quicker on my PowerBook, at least 4 times as fast!!!

Ian

[Busemann]

Originally posted by gorickey:
What's buggy?

Well, with the brief experience i have had with it, it seems to have crash issues with the slideshow, and when I launched it once i had duplicates of every picture in my library..

also, when clicking the order prints button nothing seems to happen..

btw. is the build no. on iMovie 3G49? (open the version.plist file in the imovie.app package)

[jokell82]

Originally posted by Busemann:
Well, with the brief experience i have had with it, it seems to have crash issues with the slideshow, and when I launched it once i had duplicates of every picture in my library..

also, when clicking the order pictures button nothing seems to happen..

btw. is the build no. on iMovie 3G49? (open the version.plist file in the imovie.app package)

Yeah, confirm his warez is the final version so he doesn't have to download another copy.

[Busemann]

Originally posted by jokell82:
Yeah, confirm his warez is the final version so he doesn't have to download another copy.

[Parky]

How do I view the plist file?

[JellyBeen]

Originally posted by Parky:
How do I view the plist file?

go to ~/library/preferences/iMovie.plist

Open it in Text Edit.
Thats it.

[Busemann]

iPhoto doesn't even seem to work with multiple users here. On the non-admin account it only shows as 81 MB, while it is really 103 MB. It crashes on launch, while it works perfectly on the admin account. Repaired permissions etc.

Hmm...

[Busemann]

Originally posted by JellyBeen:
go to ~/library/preferences/iMovie.plist

Open it in Text Edit.
Thats it.

Actually, it is located in the iMovie application itself. Control click it and "show package contents".

[Parky]

iMovie build - (3G49)
iDVD does not have a build number in the .plist file

Ian

[Busemann]

Originally posted by Busemann:
iPhoto doesn't even seem to work with multiple users here. On the non-admin account it only shows as 81 MB, while it is really 103 MB. It crashes on launch, while it works perfectly on the admin account. Repaired permissions etc.

Hmm...

Nevermind..
Going in and manually changing the contents folder to admin as owner corrected it.

[Simon X]

Originally posted by Parky:
Just installing iLife '04 here in the UK.

It was available to buy this morning at UK resellers.

Please post any questions if you have them.

Ian

I thought you gave up on Apple after they screwed up your Panther delivery?

[hardcat1970]

I couldn't get the garageband demo songs played on my powerbook 12", even the specific for G3 one. It said my hard drive was too slow, and asked me to mute some tracks.

What is the requirement speed for the drive though?

[TC]

Can you let us know what happens if you click on order prints?
Is it finally available in Europe?

[Busemann]

Originally posted by TC:
Can you let us know what happens if you click on order prints?
Is it finally available in Europe?

Nothing happens

[hardcat1970]

Originally posted by TC:
Can you let us know what happens if you click on order prints?
Is it finally available in Europe?

Steve Jobs said it will be available in March.

[Xterratop]

Well, I just installed iLife04 and I must say that its a good suite of programs for $49. Thanks Jobs! Anyway, the new addition, GarageBand, is the added plus. Its a good 'little' program but does not surpass Soundtrack. I have Soundtrack and I love it. Although the interface in Soundtrack is boring with its gray and green coloured GUI, Soundtrack has more loops, and better control over your audio creations. I've been using Soundtrack for over a 2 months a love the fact that I can sync music with video all in the same program. GarageBand is a good way to introduce the home user to music creation. Then if the user wants to get into something more intense, they could get Soundtrack. Just like Apple's other software, Final Cut Express to Final Cut Pro, people can slowly move up the ladder in learning. For example, I'm new to this movie editing thing so I'm learning at the bottom using iMovie4. Although its limited, it gives you the basic idea of how to edit. Then after working in iMovie4 and mastering that program, I'm planning to upgrade to Final Cut Express- same concepts in editing but much more fine tuned tools to do more professional editing. Then after I get the hang of that, I'd like to upgrade to Final Cut Pro.

When it comes to GarageBand, we have the same options. If you have no idea about doing just the basics, get iLife04 which includes GarageBand. If you want to get more into music, master GarageBand and then upgrade yourself to Soundtrack. Its worth it. Smart move on Apple's marketing group.

[SeSawaya]

Fed Ex came today! totally worth the extra $4 shipping!

iPhoto. GREAT! I have a 1 ghz imac and it took 10 seconds for it to open. No spinning ball at all unless your deleting an album or something huge. This is the way it should've always been. You will be happy.

iDVD new themes are great. Pretty fast overall. A few new features that are really going to be helpful.

iMovie, biggest thing for me is the audio level images on the tracks, what a time saver! Easier sub menues with transitions (especially good for SLICK additions)
Audio is still in what seems to be random order. Not good for me. Too many playlists I guess. Crashed the first time I opened it too.

I'm going to start working on a movie project tonight so I'll be able to put it more through its paces. Garage band looks cool, so I'm to lose myself in grooveland.

thanks apple!

[mishap]

I have also had problems with the latest build of iPhoto

usually when you have a large slideshow set to "show slides in random order" ...it crashes.

that's about it.

[darcybaston]

Can other people try the GB demo songs. I'm wanting to make sure my 933MHz iBook G4 will be able to at least play the demos without some wonky 'hard drive too slow' error?

[funkboy]

I am also installing iLife '04 right now.

Excitement indeed!

[darcybaston]

While you're doing that, launch iChat and join room "gbc". It's in File->Go to chat, and then type gbc, and come report your experience!

[Parky]

I gave up on buying software direct from the Apple Store as they have a terrible delivery service in the UK.

I bought my copy from a store today, cheaper to as there are no delivery charges.

I have been using iPhoto for a few hours and I am very impressed.

I have increased the number of photos I had loaded from 950 to 4500 and there is no change in speed, it is still very quick.

No problem using the slide show with 1880 photos in the show, it work very quickly, and very smooth (cube transition)

When you rotate a number of photos they change right away in the view but I think it does the actual work in the background which really makes it seem quicker. I can cause a slight slow down when you are working on loads of photos, but if you wait a few seconds it gets flying again.

No crashes at all in the few hours of use today.

Very impressed.

[rblanchette]

Garageband chokes on my PB 12" G4 1Ghz 768 RAM. It does okay with simple tracks. Complex multitrack arrangements result in a "your hard drive is too slow" warning. It'll probably run great on desktops with 7200rpm drives. Unfortunately, that doesn't help us PB users with slow drives.

[t6hawk]

Originally posted by rblanchette:
Garageband chokes on my PB 12" G4 1Ghz 768 RAM. It does okay with simple tracks. Complex multitrack arrangements result in a "your hard drive is too slow" warning. It'll probably run great on desktops with 7200rpm drives. Unfortunately, that doesn't help us PB users with slow drives.

I do feel kind of ripped off on that. Apple is well aware of the speeds of the harddrives in their laptops so one would assume that they've beta tested it on them.

[hardcat1970]

Originally posted by t6hawk:
I do feel kind of ripped off on that. Apple is well aware of the speeds of the harddrives in their laptops so one would assume that they've beta tested it on them.

I got a 12" powerbook and i noticed that too. I wonder if i can put garageband on an external firewire hard drive and run it from there, will it help?

[darcybaston]

So iBook users, even 933MHz G4 one are probably even worse off? *gulp*

[hardcat1970]

i just put my garage band apps in my external firewire hard drive and i can play the demo-for the mind, guitar blue for G3 projects without any error message. But the G4/G5 projects no go for me, same hard drive is too slow message.

[rblanchette]

Originally posted by t6hawk:
I do feel kind of ripped off on that. Apple is well aware of the speeds of the harddrives in their laptops so one would assume that they've beta tested it on them.

I'm kind of irritated too. I bought iLife 04 for Garageband and it looks like I'm not going to get much use out of it.

[darcybaston]

Just got news from a 15" 1.25ghz powerbook user who menitoned it was really slow and chatting in iChat caused a complete system pause for 10 seconds when 3 messages came in quickly. Can't endure expose at all either.

[funkboy]

iPhoto '04 is impressive. It uses very small thumbnails while scrolling to speed up the experience - which is totally fine for me.

Everything gets nice and sharp once you stop scrolling. Nice way to do it.

Time to try out Garage Band and throw down some beats.

[eevyl]

So basically, GarageBand is unusable on PowerBooks and iBooks? That is on the requirements for GarageBand? I don't remember reading that on Apple's site.

That's really lame, I was thinking of using GarageBand on a PowerBook G4 12"...

[darcybaston]

If it's the only app running, at all, it's useable at 1.25ghz but if you load one of the included demos with 12 tracks, apparently it nearly dies and hogs the system harshly. It's a version 1, I'm not surprised.

[Jawbreaker]

I'm running iLife 04 on an 867mhz 12" PowerBook G4 - and everything runs great, GarageBand included. The interface can't quite keep up in the more complicated demo songs, but everything sounds fine.

[t6hawk]

Garageband is not usable on my G4 tower either. I installed the app onto a 7200rpm HD and I tried the 7200 rpm Firewire HD too. I get the same "Disk too slow" error I did on the powerbook on both the faster drives. WTF?! Now I feel REALLY ripped off.

[swiz]

What the hell? In the product info for GB on the website it mentions something about using it with a desktop or laptop for a "truly portable studio"...

If these speed claims are true that is really freaking lame.

[swiz]

By chance are you users experiencing these slow speeds using FileVault?

[adamberti]

Can people please post what OS they are using? I'm wondering if there will be a difference between Pather and Jaguar, as we already have some "excellent" reports and some "unusable" reports. Thanks.

[Macdriver]

I loaded garageband on my G5 and the only sound out I can get is through the built in mono speaker in the box. Soundsticks are grayed out as not usable... this sucks the speakers are worth more than the cheezy app that wont ust them.

[rblanchette]

Panther no FileVault.

[tdvorak]

I am on a PB 1.25 and GarageBand works/sounds fine. In fact, all the iLife apps seem to be in good order!

[rblanchette]

The only one that really seems to choke it is the Reflection Band. That is the most complex arrangement and my PB chokes about halfway through. The sound starts to cut in and out and then gets really weird. About a minute later the error message pops up about the drive being too slow or system overload.

[t6hawk]

Powerbook = Panther, no filevault
Tower = Jaguar