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OS X crashed for the first time today...
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Today I saw my first proper OS X crash. Rogue app took out a whole bunch of other apps (Safari/iCal/Word/Excel/TextEdit/iTunes/Calculator all "unexpectedly quit").
Brownie points for the first person to guess what app caused this, and what I was doing with it.
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a norton app. Virus scanning.
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IE for mac or some bloatware from M$
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Originally posted by Sherwin:
Today I saw my first proper OS X crash. Rogue app took out a whole bunch of other apps (Safari/iCal/Word/Excel/TextEdit/iTunes/Calculator all "unexpectedly quit").
Brownie points for the first person to guess what app caused this, and what I was doing with it.
It would have to be a bug the OS itself. It is possible another app exploited this bug, but one app cannot write to the memory space of another.
The other option is a buggy kernel extension.
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Ever? when did it crash last?. With Jag it went seven months without a hiccup -- Panthers rock solid, not one since I installed several months back.
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I run my system at home 24/7/365...
I have a crash about once a month and a system freak out about once a month. I could probably recover from the freak out, but after a restart, my system seems to run a bit better...
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Come on guys! What makes computers crash more than any other thing?
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I've been able to keep mine up for months no issues.
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For the record, I've never had Jag crash on me since the day it was released. Safari beta copping out occasionally, but nothing taking more than itself down or taking the system out (never seen a kernel panic, for example). I run 27/7/365.
Until this morning.
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Originally posted by Sherwin:
Come on guys! What makes computers crash more than any other thing?
word or excel?! word or excel?! I can't pick one...
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Originally posted by TheMosco:
word or excel?! word or excel?! I can't pick one...
In the right neighbourhood, but no banana.
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Originally posted by Sherwin:
Come on guys! What makes computers crash more than any other thing?
Operator Error... 
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�My iBook 600 KP'd a couple of days ago, but it had gone several months without such an error, so not too bad. Better than the "Dull" brand Windoze box at work.
�My heavily upgraded blue & white G3 hasn't exactly KP'd, but I've had a number of suspicious, unrecoverable lock ups (even from another machine SSH'd in) that I suspect is the processor upgrade overheating. Time to clock it back down a notch.
�Dual 2.0GHz G5 - so far batting a thousand
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Pah. CSI, Law and Order and three beers later it looks like I'm going to have to fess up.
What took my system down? Windows!
Yep, the rogue app which took the others down was Virtual PC, in which I was messing with a copy of XP Pro.
(for the technical, I can only assume it was something to do with processors mode switching or something?)
So. Only time a Mac screws up on me is when it's running Windows.
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Duh!.....I knew that, I just wanted to see if you did.
 
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Originally posted by Sherwin:
Today I saw my first proper OS X crash. Rogue app took out a whole bunch of other apps (Safari/iCal/Word/Excel/TextEdit/iTunes/Calculator all "unexpectedly quit").
Brownie points for the first person to guess what app caused this, and what I was doing with it.
that's not a system crash...that's just a bunch of apps crashing for some reason.
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Originally posted by quandarry:
that's not a system crash...that's just a bunch of apps crashing for some reason.
Did I say it was a "system crash"?
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Looks like I was right! Bloatware from M$.
Where are my brownies?
LOL "Only time a Mac screws up on me is when it's running Windows."
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Originally posted by Sherwin:
Did I say it was a "system crash"?
You said "OS X crashed" in your title ... not "a bunch o' apps crashed". Apps crash .. when you get a kernel panic, THAT'S when OS X has crashed.
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Kernel panic is not happy.
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Originally posted by Krusty:
You said "OS X crashed" in your title ... not "a bunch o' apps crashed". Apps crash .. when you get a kernel panic, THAT'S when OS X has crashed.
So sue me.
If you want to get all humourless about it, it was obviously an error at system level else it wouldn't have taken the eight or so other apps down simultaneously.
So OS X did crash in some tiny respect. But not all the way. Just enough to show its displeasure at being forced to run Windoze.
Brownie points go to insha for having a sense of humour. Which is why this thread is in the lounge, not the OS X or Software forums.
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Originally posted by Sherwin:
Come on guys! What makes computers crash more than any other thing?
safari...having so many tabs open with porn sites running in them will always crash your machine
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hmmm my WinXP has yet to crash over 2 yrs of use...
well my mac hasnt crashed as well since I got it in April...
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After a year and a half using OSX I finally got what is officially a kernel panic, heralded by the multi-lingual "you need to restart..." window. I installed the expansion pack for Elite Force and everytime I try to save, or pause the game it happens. Very irritating. I think I'll be over at Gaming forum for that one.
I'd never actually seen that window before in any of my three machines, a keylime ibook, a heavily upgraded blue&white and a MDD G4. But I HAVE had lots of Unrecoverable System Freakouts requiring restart. Is that an official term?
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Originally posted by Sherwin:
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Brownie points go to insha for having a sense of humour.
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Will trade my brownie points for winning caps from Pepsi. 
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Originally posted by mc786030:
hmmm my WinXP has yet to crash over 2 yrs of use...
well my mac hasnt crashed as well since I got it in April...
Dude, you need to turn your peecee, loaded with XP, on for it to crash...
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You guys must be lightweights. I can get Jaguar to lock or kernel panic a couple times a week just by using it while doing things in Classic and I've seen Panther crash (kernel panic) once after disconnecting a firewire drive while copying and loading a flash page with Safari. Don't ask me how they're connected.
Additionally, you're a fool if you don't restart your computer every couple days. Especially on older hardware, things seem to get sloooooooowwwwwwwwwww after a couple days of opening and closing apps.
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Originally posted by mc786030:
hmmm my WinXP has yet to crash over 2 yrs of use...
well my mac hasnt crashed as well since I got it in April...
Then you don't work your machines that hard.
My g4, while flaky at times, seems to be quite a bit more solid than even the overloaded comps at college (P4 3ghz, 1gb ram, etc) -- it's funny how I can bog those down XD
For me, it's no huge surprise when my PC boots up to a kernel inpage error
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