[Talk2Angus]

Does anybody follow the game of rugby??
Does anybody have something to say about it?

[willed]

Awesome game. Sorry you didn't win the World Cup

[Talk2Angus]

No, We had to give the cup to a northern hem. country for a change!!!!!!
scared u guys r going to stop playing the game!!!!!!!

Ha-Ha-Ha-Ha-HA-Ha-Ha
Just joking england was amazing!!!!!!!

[phoenixboy]

i really enjoy watching that game. a lot of my friends used to play rugby, some of them still do.

though i have to admit i don't understand all the aspects of the game, it's fun to watch. i wanted the wallabies to win the world cup...too bad they sucked in the final.

[The Placid Casual]

I'm Welsh, it my national game!!

I Played from when I was 7 to when I was 24 when I gave up...

Played for my school and 2 clubs. Used to have 3 games a week and had to train every day! However, I got a LOT of injures in the process!

Awesome game ruined by now going professional.

Not the game it used to be...

[Talk2Angus]

South Africa had a warm up game for there new squad yesterday, and i must say its looking good!!!!!!!
But we will c against Ireland and then after that in the Tri-Nations(Wallabies, All Blacks, Springboks)

But i say watch out here comes the springboks again!!!!!!!!!

[sixz]

It may be footballs stateside father, but the added ability for a
forward pass makes rugby look a little archaic now - but thats
probably why so many in the old UK colonies (and france)
like it so much - plus the fun to be had in the scrum :)

[Talk2Angus]

soccer is a game made for gentleman but played by hooligans and rugby is a game made hooligans but played by gentleman

[The Placid Casual]

Originally posted by Talk2Angus:
soccer is a game made for gentleman but played by hooligans and rugby is a game made hooligans but played by gentleman

Been to a football match recently?... hooligans all round!

[Talk2Angus]

Originally posted by The Placid Casual:
Been to a football match recently?... hooligans all round!

Xactly my point!!!!!!!!!!
I live in south Africa FiFa 2010 World Cup!! Bring on the worlds hooligans but they have to watch out for all the hooligans here in our country who does not even play footie!! they just hooligans all by themselfs

[sixz]

Originally posted by Talk2Angus:
soccer is a game made for gentleman but played by hooligans and rugby is a game made hooligans but played by gentleman:D :stick:

I think you got that all mixed up.
Soccer is the worlds favorite sport - not just the UKs.
It is the beautiful game - a non-contact sport.

[Talk2Angus]

Originally posted by sixz:
I think you got that all mixed up.
Soccer is the worlds favorite sport - not just the UKs.
It is the beautiful game - a non-contact sport.

A-Non Contact sport that fakes contact to win a freekick!!!!!
I support the game aswell but i can not stand those oscar moves from the players to WIN a freekick not get a free kick cause somebody made a misstake but win 1 with a oscar tackle play the game dont act!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11

[bobthecannibal]

Go Walllabies.

[Talk2Angus]

Originally posted by bobthecannibal:
Go Walllabies.

Clyde Rathbone is actually 1 of my friends i went to school with him!!
He just got picked 4 the wallabies team.

GO BOKKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Taking no from any wallabie All Black this year int the tri-nations!
mark my words

[The Placid Casual]

Originally posted by sixz:
I think you got that all mixed up.
Soccer is the worlds favorite sport - not just the UKs.
It is the beautiful game - a non-contact sport.

Beautiful?! I saw 40+ games last season and maybe ONE one was worthy of the word.

You can't describe the Cardiff City v Sunderland game in the English 1st Division as pretty by any stretch of the truth.

Rugby has a certain nobility, an ethic which football these days can only aspire to...

[Talk2Angus]

Originally posted by The Placid Casual:


Beautiful?! I saw 40+ games last season and maybe ONE one was worthy of the word.

You can't describe the Cardiff City v Sunderland game in the English 1st Division as pretty by any stretch of the truth.

Rugby has a certain nobility, an ethic which football these days can only aspire to...

THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[sixz]

Originally posted by The Placid Casual:
:rolleyes:

Beautiful?! I saw 40+ games last season and maybe ONE one was worthy of the word.

You can't describe the Cardiff City v Sunderland game in the English 1st Division as pretty by any stretch of the truth.

Rugby has a certain nobility, an ethic which football these days can only aspire to...

If Cardiff City had moved up into the premiership this
season, maybe you would have called that beautiful ;)
( If you are only getting a 1 in 40 'satisfaction ratio' why continue ?
join a rugby club - become a player rather than a fan - save the money, get fitter )

Rugby is suffering the same ennui from a spectators point of view
as gates numbers have been continually dropping and the game
less exciting to watch.

Of all the worlds sports only the NBA continues to grow and grow.

[ryju]

I've played it, I also don't like it. But I don't possess the body necessary for it. It's fun to watch I guess.

[mitchell_pgh]

Rugby to me is (I'm guessing) most likely how most europeans feel about american football.

[The Placid Casual]

Originally posted by sixz:
If Cardiff City had moved up into the premiership this
season, maybe you would have called that beautiful

Lol. maybe, but I am not a Cardiff City fan... I just went to my local club for a day out. Never again.

Originally posted by sixz:
(If you are only getting a 1 in 40 'satisfaction ratio' why continue ?
join a rugby club - become a player rather than a fan - save the money, get fitter )

I would love to play rugby again. If I could I would. The last time I played (relatively good club playing a decent standard) I was tackled *very* hard by two players, and bent my knee back against the joint. Ripped most of the muscles away from the kneecap. Not nice at all, and probably the most painful thing that ever happened to me. Even now years later my knee is still not right.

40:1, yep that is kind of a bad return, but I include in that local lower division games. I often have access to a free season for Man Utd and it seems a shame not to use it... Also it is good to meet up with friends and stuff before and after the game so it is the social aspect I go for, not the football a lot of the time.

Originally posted by sixz:
Rugby is suffering the same ennui from a spectators point of view
as gates numbers have been continually dropping and the game
less exciting to watch.

Since it went Pro things are just not the same, especially in Wales where clubs have been amalgamated and rival sets of fans are expected to support the 'same' team. It is like joining Man Utd and Leeds and expecting the fans to get on...

I remember watching games such as LLanelli (my team!) against the All Blacks and Australia. Meeting up with Kiwis and Australians in the local pubs in Cardiff (The Old Arcade a favourite) sharing a pint, sharing a few rugby stories. Awesome times. But games and times like this just don't happen any more.... it is all down to money.

[Zoom_zoom]

Rugby is a great game, however I am more of a fan of Rugby league, (Can you tell I am a Queenslander?)

ZZ

[mdc]

i used to play rugby when i was younger, up until around 12 or so. used to play lock. all in school. (cape town)

i pretty much stopped following it after that. i watch the odd game. got a durbs friend here in florida (we both go to the same college) and he is a big rugby player.

[MacGorilla]

I enjoy watching it on TV but I have no clue as to the rules or how the game is played. Still fun to watch, tho.

[soul searching]

I'm not a big fan but started paying attention/watching it when I was in college. Cal won, I believe, 11 NCAA championships in a row. During that run, a couple of teams forfeited matches instead of facing them . Also, at some point, they even beat the Canadian national team .

[willed]

Originally posted by sixz:
I think you got that all mixed up.
Soccer is the worlds favorite sport - not just the UKs.
It is the beautiful game - a non-contact sport.

So what if it's the world's favourite game? The point remains that it is by and large a sport for pikies/hooligans. Rugby is much more violent in essence but is played and supported by a better class of people, mainly in my opinion (and I know I'll get flamed for this) because in the England at least it is mainly played in private schools, not state schools. Unlike football.

[talisker]

Originally posted by willed:
...because in the England at least it is mainly played in private schools, not state schools. Unlike football.

And that's the great tragedy about the game in England. It's a game for upper class arrogant nobs. Scotland and Wales are different to some extent as there are particular areas (such as the Scottish borders) where rugby is the sport that everyone's into irrespective of background, but as you say in England it's mainly concentrated around private schools.

The same situation exists partly in Australia I believe (league and AFL being the "normal" games), but not at all in New Zealand, where it is clearly the national sport followed by virtually everyone.

[ghost_flash]

Rugby is a great game. To watch.
I'd rather play a nice game of Carom Billiards or Snooker myself.

[Ω]

Originally posted by ghost_flash:
Rugby is a great game. To watch.
I'd rather play a nice game of Carom Billiards or Snooker myself.

Can I draw your attention here?

[ghost_flash]

Originally posted by _?_:
Can I draw your attention here?

Can I draw your attention to my signature?

Here... Look down.

[willed]

Originally posted by ghost_flash:
Can I draw your attention to my signature?

Here... Look down.

Fantastic

[Talk2Angus]

Originally posted by mitchell_pgh:
Rugby to me is (I'm guessing) most likely how most europeans feel about american football.

NO,NO,NO

Rugby is full contact much harder game that american foootball(i play both) but with no helmet or any type of protection!!!!!!

[Talk2Angus]

Originally posted by talisker:
And that's the great tragedy about the game in England. It's a game for upper class arrogant nobs. Scotland and Wales are different to some extent as there are particular areas (such as the Scottish borders) where rugby is the sport that everyone's into irrespective of background, but as you say in England it's mainly concentrated around private schools.

The same situation exists partly in Australia I believe (league and AFL being the "normal" games), but not at all in New Zealand, where it is clearly the national sport followed by virtually everyone.

I never knew about this is the first i hear of it!
I am from south africa and here all schools play rugby!

[theolein]

Skop hom in die eier boet. Groete, boertjie van die Transvaal! Despite all the crap that rugby in SA used to represent, I miss the Saturday afternoon sessions at someone's house in front of the TV with a fridge full of Castle and hearing some lunatic from next door screaming 'Vrystaat' at the top of his lungs

[mdc]

LMAO! i can picture it all now. except i used to hear "PROVINCE"

heh heh heh

[theolein]

Mmm, notbadatall, SA mense are fairly well represented on the boards here: capetown, mdc, troll, me and talk2angus...

[Krypton]

Originally posted by Talk2Angus:
NO,NO,NO

Rugby is full contact much harder game that american foootball(i play both) but with no helmet or any type of protection!!!!!!

How is is that American Footballers have all that padding, yet there are more reported serious injuries (e.g. breaking one's spinal cord) than in rugby? Or am I just generalising too much?

[ghost_flash]

Originally posted by Krypton:
How is is that American Footballers have all that padding, yet there are more reported serious injuries (e.g. breaking one's spinal cord) than in rugby? Or am I just generalising too much?

It must be a tougher game.
I recall some "rugby" players trying out American Football and couldn't hack it.

[Krypton]

Originally posted by ghost_flash:
It must be a tougher game.
I recall some "rugby" players trying out American Football and couldn't hack it.

Yeah the accent probably got to them....

[theolein]

Originally posted by Krypton:
How is is that American Footballers have all that padding, yet there are more reported serious injuries (e.g. breaking one's spinal cord) than in rugby? Or am I just generalising too much?

The rules are different, which probably makes a difference. Most of the injuries in Football come from tackling/blocking and the Rugby rules are stricter with respect to this these days, although that didn't always used to be the case. In rugby the most dangerous place to be is in the scrum, where the pressure on the shoulders of the guys in the middle can be around 2000 pounds.

You get an awful lot of broken collar bones in Rugby.

[Krypton]

Originally posted by theolein:
The rules are different, which probably makes a difference. Most of the injuries in Football come from tackling/blocking and the Rugby rules are stricter with respect to this these days, although that didn't always used to be the case. In rugby the most dangerous place to be is in the scrum, where the pressure on the shoulders of the guys in the middle can be around 2000 pounds.

You get an awful lot of broken collar bones in Rugby.

Thank you for the explanation.

I might have been influenced by lots of those 'worlds deadliest/most rerun/sporting clips ever' where they go on about American footballers breaking their backs.

Not having ever watched American Football, can you tackle someone any old how?

[soul searching]

Originally posted by Krypton:
...
Not having ever watched American Football, can you tackle someone any old how?

If they have the ball, yes, sort of . You can't grab them by the iron grid on their facemask or use "unnecessary" force when tackling a player (i.e., if they�re going out of bounds and you decide to give them a nice push for good measure). But other than that, it's pretty much however you want.

If you're blocking a player, you need to keep him/her in front of you and only use force above his waist (i.e., you cannot block him/her out by taking out his/her knees).

[Krypton]

Originally posted by soul searching:
If they have the ball, yes, sort of . You can't grab them by the iron grid on their facemask or use "unnecessary" force when tackling a player (i.e., if they�re going out of bounds and you decide to give them a nice push for good measure). But other than that, it's pretty much however you want.

If you're blocking a player, you need to keep him/her in front of you and only use force above his waist (i.e., you cannot block him/her out by taking out his/her knees).

That would explain the need for padding. I was taught to play rugby for a term at school, and my understanding was that you can only tackle by grabbing a person's legs - or at least that's the preferred way, and once you've clasped your arms right round someone's legs they don't get very far (except very large boys in my class, who could keep going with several weedier classmates hanging on).

[ghost_flash]

I like it especially when the receiver is sent up the middle and you know he is going to be slammed... especially when he has to jump to catch the ball. One defender hits his legs, and another goes for the head... he gets crunched but good. Ouch!

Facemasks are the most dangerous of penalties. When you are running at full gallop and some guy comes up from behind and grabs your face-plate and then yanks, the body follows but not as fast as your neck snaps! Bad news.

[Krypton]

Originally posted by ghost_flash:
I like it especially when the receiver is sent up the middle and you know he is going to be slammed... especially when he has to jump to catch the ball. One defender hits his legs, and another goes for the head... he gets crunched but good. Ouch!

Facemasks are the most dangerous of penalties. When you are running at full gallop and some guy comes up from behind and grabs your face-plate and then yanks, the body follows but not as fast as your neck snaps! Bad news.

Mmmmm mangelation.

Rugby players seem to have very mangled ears from being in scrums all the time, do Football players grow grotesque deformities?

[ghost_flash]

Originally posted by Krypton:
Mmmmm mangelation.

Rugby players seem to have very mangled ears from being in scrums all the time, do Football players grow grotesque deformities?

Hey, I was a wrestler all through college... talk about mangled ears!~

Had them drained once a year. Ewwwww. Oddly, tasts like milk...

[Krypton]

Originally posted by ghost_flash:
Hey, I was a wrestler all through college... talk about mangled ears!~

Had them drained once a year. Ewwwww. Oddly, tasts like milk...

A wrestler eh? Is that one of the 'proper' ones, or the type that wear lycra and have daft names?

[rambo47]

I played at 2 colleges, Bucknell and Drew University. I remember going up to West Point to play the Cadets' C-side and still getting our arses kicked right proper! Those guys are a bunch of super-human animals, but always polite. Great times, indeed. If you ever get a chance to go see the Hong Kong Sevens Tournament, I whole-heartedly recommend you jump on it.

I'm getting in shape to go back to the game and play with one of the clubs in northern New Jersey, perhaps this fall. My son, now 8 years old, is going to play youth Rugby this summer. It's only flag Rugby, but it gets the young ones a look at the game, the rules, and shows them something they've probably never seen before. Go Denville Dawgs!!

Shame the U.S. Eagles aren't competitive in the World Cup. I always seem to root for the underdog, but a fella can take just so much of the sub-par Rugby the Eagles show. I did so want to see Jonah Lomu get one more shot at the World Cup with the All Blacks, but it looks like he's done. Kidney ailment acting up again. I've always had a soft spot in my heart for the All Blacks (not exactly underdogs, I know). My first team was Bucknell Unviersity's club and we were the Bucknell All Blacks. Same uniforms as the Kiwis but without the white fern leaf on our jerseys. My wife still wears my old jersey as a night shirt, well laundered, of course!

[ghost_flash]

Originally posted by Krypton:
A wrestler eh? Is that one of the 'proper' ones, or the type that wear lycra and have daft names?

Traditional: Freestyle & Greco Roman.