[PacHead]

Originally posted by MacNStein:
I was just picking. Though, most are in the 900-1200CE area...

1200 AD, or 2004 AD, not much has changed in that part of the world anyhow, except for some new ways of figuring out how to remove human heads from necks. I hear the saw is all the rage nowadays.

[d4nth3m4n]

man, this thread is going places.

[TheBadgerHunter]

Originally posted by PacHead:
1200 AD, or 2004 AD, not much has changed in that part of the world anyhow, except for some new ways of figuring out how to remove human heads from necks. I hear the saw is all the rage nowadays.

Or so everyone would like you to think.

What is the difference between their capital punishment and ours? Dead is dead whether you were beheaded or fried or sedated.

[PacHead]

Originally posted by TheBadgerHunter:
Or so everyone would like you to think.

What is the difference between their capital punishment and ours? Dead is dead whether you were beheaded or fried or sedated.

People always say dead is dead.

Well, dead is not dead.

If I shoot you point blank in the head, right through your brain, you would probably be dead pretty quickly.

If I decide to tie you down, while severing your fingers, then toes, then pouring salt in the wounds, then using a rusty, unsharp saw to remove your head, you would also be dead eventually.

I'd prefer method #1, but that's just me.

And I wasn't referring to their capital punishment, I was just talking about what happens to American civilians who happens to be in one of those lousy countries.

[ambush]

Originally posted by Captain Obvious:
That�s just absolute crap. In terms of what they bring to the table of contributions to the world there most defiantly are superior cultures. Contributions to math ,science, literature, economic gains, invention etc.., are certainly the marks of a superior society. Which is not to say that Islam has not made significant contributions to the knowledge of man, they just haven�t contributed much in the past few hundred years. By today�s standards which are mostly scientific and economically based if certain cultures dropped off the planet it would cause chaos all over the planet because they are/were a keystone to what stability we do have in the world. There are many cultures all over the world but I don�t think you can call them all great.

How can the superiority of a culture be defined by those type of contributions??

For instance, the Buddhists have no interest whatsoever in economic gains. Does that make them an inferior culture?

You see, you're actually proving Kitten right here - some cultures do not share the same VALUES of what is truth, what is a successful life. Example: Buddhists seek illumination. They are not a culture/religion based on profit, gains, in fact they're anti-desire.

Now please go back to tanning your neck in Texas.

[ambush]

Originally posted by wolfen:
I understood it perfectly:

"One day we will have murdered the majority of heathen muslims and put the remainder in their place. Once they acknowledge Christ is their savior (or are under the foot of those who do) the Middle East will thrive by the Almighty's benevolent hand."

Where's the confusion?

[TheBadgerHunter]

Originally posted by PacHead:
People always say dead is dead.

Well, dead is not dead.

If I shoot you point blank in the head, right through your brain, you would probably be dead pretty quickly.

If I decide to tie you down, while severing your fingers, then toes, then pouring salt in the wounds, then using a rusty, unsharp saw to remove your head, you would also be dead eventually.

I'd prefer method #1, but that's just me.

And I wasn't referring to their capital punishment, I was just talking about what happens to American civilians who happens to be in one of those lousy countries.

Capturing and beheading innocent has absolutely nothing to do with that culture so can the crap.

[turtle777]

Originally posted by d4nth3m4n:
man, this thread is going places.

Yeah, it might be visitng lock, if it continues...

-t

[wolfen]

Originally posted by Captain Obvious:
That�s very politically correct of you. But diversity only helps humanity in terms of the gene pool. I don�t think my criteria is narrow at all. I may have not listed every discipline in my list but you can judge whatever society you like by what they have brought to any of the academic fields. Collective knowledge is the only thing that lives beyond the lifespan of a civilization. Diversity means crap.

I think in many ways our culture invites many pathological variables to our race (overclocked calculators and all).

The west has much higher (and increasing) rates of depression than much of the world we call undeveloped. We (the US) have the 2nd highest child poverty rate in the world. We are leaders in broken families and fatherless kids. I don't think this is some grand strategic plan to kill the weak and clean the gene pool. That doesn't even address pollution, nukes, and a whole host of genetically harmful contributions we've made to the gene pool as a direct consequence of our "superiority."

There's nothing "politically correct" about recognizing there are real benefits to the human race in other cultures. It is just a fact in terms of both survival and quality of life. Take away all the fancy toys and portable pollution devices for a moment -- do you really think the human race would end without MTV and Humvees?

[Kilbey]

I am amazed at the number of you who are obsessed with physical apearance.

The woman has the freedom to wear it or not. But to focus on the apearance aspect of her wearing it and to chide her for it is despicable.

[CD Hanks]

Originally posted by Landos Mustache:
I can't wait! Latinos are hot!

Holy crap, it all makes sense now.

[Kilbey]

Originally posted by CD Hanks:
Holy crap, it all makes sense now.

And I am scared as I am half Mexican.

[CD Hanks]

Originally posted by Kilbey:
And I am scared as I am half Mexican.

Same. (half-latino)

[Kilbey]

Originally posted by CD Hanks:
Same. (half-latino)

But the other half is pure mutt.

[CD Hanks]

Originally posted by Kilbey:
But the other half is pure mutt.

Indeed it is. Good ole Euro-mutt.

[Kilbey]

Originally posted by CD Hanks:
Indeed it is. Good ole Euro-mutt.

EXACTLY.

Crap, we're probably related.

[Shaddim]

Originally posted by Kilbey:
And I am scared as I am half Mexican.

I'm half Cuban, I know how you feel.

Edit: So, what is it with us Conservative Hispanics, maybe it's a trend?

[CD Hanks]

Originally posted by Kilbey:
EXACTLY.

Crap, we're probably related.

Heh, probably.

Here's a breakdown of my mix:

Mom:
Mexican/Argentinian/Spanish/and a dash of Russian (don't ask)

Dad:
English/French-Cajun/Irish/and some more of that Russian blood.

[jojo gunne]

Originally posted by CD Hanks:
Heh, probably.

Here's a breakdown of my mix:

Mom:
Mexican/Argentinian/Spanish/and a dash of Russian (don't ask)

Dad:
English/French-Cajun/Irish/and some more of that Russian blood.

who in god's name cares.

[CD Hanks]

Originally posted by jojo gunne:
who in god's name cares.

Clearly not you. But then again I didn't intend it soley for you.

STOP POSTING

[Kilbey]

Originally posted by jojo gunne:
who in god's name cares.

Me.

Now you, go away.

[Kilbey]

Originally posted by CD Hanks:
Heh, probably.

Here's a breakdown of my mix:

Mom:
Mexican/Argentinian/Spanish/and a dash of Russian (don't ask)

Dad:
English/French-Cajun/Irish/and some more of that Russian blood.

Not even close to me.

Dad: Mexican/Spanish

Mom: Dutch/Irish/English/Viking

[CD Hanks]

Originally posted by Kilbey:
Not even close to me.

Phew.

[Kilbey]

Originally posted by CD Hanks:
Phew.

Touche'

[jojo gunne]

you guys holding hands yet? :-P

[Kilbey]

Originally posted by jojo gunne:
you guys holding hands yet? :-P

We're too busy making out behind the shed.

Didn't you get my message?

[fireside]

Originally posted by CD Hanks:
Mom:
Mexican/Argentinian/Spanish/and a dash of Russian (don't ask)

why can't we ask about the russian part?

[Kilbey]

Originally posted by fireside:
why can't we ask about the russian part?

I know how you feel.

Someone says "Don't ask". Just makes me want to ask.

[wolfen]

I remember not asking about the russian thing once with this girl.

She insisted I not ask and so I did not. Being the considerate guy I was...and stuff. But I didn't take the hint. Because in truth she wanted me to be compelled to ask anyway. She just didn't know who she was dealing with, y'know? Pfffft! As if.

In the end I regret not asking. But of course I'd never let her know that.

[wolfen]

Oh, btw...CDHanks, I'm your father.

[fireside]

Originally posted by wolfen:
Oh, btw...CDHanks, I'm you're father.

i am you are father?

[Captain Obvious]

Originally posted by Logic:
Math: Our numerals are Arabic numerals.

Then we have this little list of Islamic scholars in various disciplines.
..............

The list goes on but I already know what you will say.........

First off the numerical system came from the Hindus. They invented our numerical system, negative numbers, came up with the concept of �zero.� The Arabs translated it and since Europe is closer in proximity to them they came across the system there first and mistakenly called them �Arab Numbers.� It is a misnomer akin to French Fries.
http://www.britannica.com/ebi/articl...%20numeral&ct=


Secondly, I specifically said the Islamic Empire made significant contributions to man. Read up to my first post if you missed it. But more specifically I said they haven�t done much lately and clearly you reiterated that with your links. In fact in the past HALF millennia they haven�t contributed a whole lot.
Also your two Nobel laureates studied primarily at Western Universities. Penn, Berkeley, Caltech, American University of Beirut (A school founded by Missionaries no less) and the Sorbonne. Their intellect was not exactly nurtured in Islamic institutions of higher learning, and I think we can all agree that nurturing a person�s talents is key to them living up to their full potential. I didn�t say there was a lack of intelligent people who are Muslim I said that Islamic society has ceased being that hotbed of achievement that it was 500 years ago.

I'll have more later since this is too easy. I have someplace to be now so you can complie another list of people in the mean time.

[wolfen]

Originally posted by fireside:
i am you are father?

It's late, and I'm tired. It's hard work comin' up with this stuff, y'know. I mean, I'm staying up for your entertainment value! OK? I'm workin' for PEANUTS, you ingrate.

[Kilbey]

Originally posted by Captain Obvious:
First off the numerical system came from the Hindus. They invented our numerical system, negative numbers, came up with the concept of �zero.� The Arabs translated it and since Europe is closer in proximity to them they came across the system there first and mistakenly called them �Arab Numbers.� It is a misnomer akin to French Fries.
http://www.britannica.com/ebi/articl...%20numeral&ct=


Secondly, I specifically said the Islamic Empire made significant contributions to man. Read up to my first post if you missed it. But more specifically I said they haven�t done much lately and clearly you reiterated that with your links. In fact in the past HALF millennia they haven�t contributed a whole lot.
Also your two Nobel laureates studied primarily at Western Universities. Penn, Berkeley, Caltech, American University of Beirut (A school founded by Missionaries no less) and the Sorbonne. Their intellect was not exactly nurtured in Islamic institutions of higher learning, and I think we can all agree that nurturing a person�s talents is key to them living up to their full potential. I didn�t say there was a lack of intelligent people who are Muslim I said that Islamic society has ceased being that hotbed of achievement that it was 500 years ago.

I'll have more later since this is too easy. I have someplace to be now so you can complie another list of people in the mean time.

Yeah... what he said.

You tell 'em C.O.

[UR-20]

Originally posted by PacHead:
She's probably as hideous as the veil chick on that curb your enthusiasm episode.

And yep, the whole veil business (I'd rather kill myself) is a messed up, backwards, primitive, barbaric tradition. She and her whole family needs immediate psychiatric help. They live in a western country, not some cave in Afghanistan.

It's so nice that there are people like you on Macnn, to show
your respect for the traditions and cultures of other people.

And the same goes for you too Apple Pro Underwear.

[E's Lil Theorem]

Originally posted by MacNStein:
....

Edit: So, what is it with us Conservative Hispanics, maybe it's a trend?

Go to Tejas, plenty over there and it's nothing new for them.

[Kilbey]

Originally posted by MacNStein:
Edit: So, what is it with us Conservative Hispanics, maybe it's a trend?

I almost missed this.

Most Hispanics I know are conservative either because of religious issues or family issues.

If a Hispanic is liberal, from my experience, it is because of union labor issues.

I see Hispanics turning towards the conservative party more and more. Family and religion mean a lot to their culture.

[Zimphire]

To each their own. It's what makes the world go round.

I can understand the concept behind wearing such a thing.

It removes temptation and lust from the eyes. If it's not there, there is no way you can be tempted by it.

[Kilbey]

Originally posted by Zimphire:
To each their own. It's what makes the world go round.

I can understand the concept behind wearing such a thing.

It removes temptation and lust from the eyes. If it's not there, there is no way you can be tempted by it.

Luke 17:1 NASB
Jesus said to his disciples: "Things that cause people to sin are bound to come, but woe to that person through whom they come. "

[Eug Wanker]

Originally posted by Landos Mustache:
I can't wait! Latinos are hot!

Nah, but Latinas are.



Wait a second... WTF?

Oh and IBTL.

[MindFad]

Originally posted by Kilbey:
Luke 17:1 NASB
Jesus said to his disciples: "Things that cause people to sin are bound to come, but woe to that person through whom they come. "

Prediction: complete.

+1

This thread totally shouldn't have made it to page two.

[Zimphire]

Originally posted by MindFad:
This thread totally shouldn't have made it to page two.

I agree. Someone needs to follow Thnk's request he made awhile ago that has since gone ignored by certain users.

Originally posted by ThinkInsane:
This has been mentioned before, but some people don't seem to get the message: take your religious debate elsewhere. THIS IS A ****ING MAC FORUM. People are getting sick of it. I'm getting sick of. Let it go or leave.

[Kilbey]

Originally posted by MindFad:
Prediction: complete.

+1

This thread totally shouldn't have made it to page two.

I was simply quoting the verse that Zimphire was referring to.

I think, although the thread was started as a religious bashing, that there has been some good contributions by some thoughtful people.

You're just mad that other people don't think like you do. Thank God for that.

[MindFad]

[ambush]

official IBDL..

press release later today.

[Zimphire]

Originally posted by MindFad:

He didn't piss me off.

[MindFad]

It's all I had in response to the "you're just mad" bit. I was hoping someone would pick up on it. And I was too lazy to make another projector animation.

[Zimphire]

Do you expect us to believe that?

[MindFad]

You messin' with me again?

[PacHead]

Originally posted by Zimphire:
Do you expect us to believe that?

Hey Zimph, they still have you locked out of the PL ?

They should at least let you in now, considering a certain event that's only a couple of days away.

When Bush wins, they shouldn't deprive you of your right to gloat.