[jersey]

Holy ****.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050615/...ge/kodak_paper

it's really a sad day for all of those that work in a wet darkroom.

I am pretty much at a loss for words.Yes, there are others, but personally, I dont think there papers are that good.

B+W Film cant be too far behind. WIthout Tri-x, I'd have little reason to live.

[Mastrap]

Sad, but doesn't surprise me. All of the remaining paper manufacturers are in trouble, from Ilford to Agfa. Time marches on.

[ManOfSteal]

Wow.

[iMOTOR]

I'm okay as long as Kodak keeps making the film, for paper I always used to use Ilford anyway. I've invested so much in darkroom equipment though, it makes me wonder how soon it will all be worthless.

What kills me though, is how chemical products are discontinued left and right, yet a decent used enlarger still costs about a thousand bucks.

[misc]

Iford HP5 baby.

[jersey]

HP5.....mmmpff......

I really dont think it gets much better than tri-x in acufine, does it?

[TETENAL]

I'm using Ilford only anyway (should say I'm using TETENAL , but actually I don't). Didn't even know Kodak made paper. I don't think it was available in Germany.

[Goldfinger]

Originally Posted by misc

Iford HP5 baby.

Really ? I liked their paper (altough I always used Agfa paper) but I don't really like their films. Tri-X yes, now THAT's a film. But my films of choice right now are TMax 100 and Neopan 400.

I don't print all that much myself anymore. I work semi-digital these days. Shoot on film and make very high resolution scans.

[paul w]

Originally Posted by iMOTOR

I'm okay as long as Kodak keeps making the film, for paper I always used to use Ilford anyway. I've invested so much in darkroom equipment though, it makes me wonder how soon it will all be worthless.

What kills me though, is how chemical products are discontinued left and right, yet a decent used enlarger still costs about a thousand bucks.

supply and demand. little supply less demand.

$$$$$$

[wdlove]

A purely business decision. Digital is the wave of the future it seems.

[jersey]

yeah, it seems as if the almighty dollar was the catalyst for this decision, which makes it even worse.

personally i really dislike ilford paper, always have. I find its tonal range to seemingly be about a zone less than kodak polymax. granted, i have found ilford paper to give better tonal gradations. i guess its all in what you're looking for in a print.

out of those i have printed for, about 80% insist that i use kodak, so i'm sure this comes as quite a blow to them as well.

plus, now i have to have my students make the transition.....which i'm sure will be unpleasant for all involved.

[jersey]

Originally Posted by wdlove

...Digital is the wave of the future it seems.

for color, indeed. for b+w, not for a long time. printers (inkjet and /or lightjet) just cant come close to matching a good optical print on a fiberbased paper.

[DeathToWindows]

Ilford and Forte papers usually... whatever I can get my hands on... don;t give a damn that Kodak is ending production.

Now, if they kill Tmax I will scream bloody ****ing murder!

[CollinG3G4]

Kodak probably has half a dozen warehouses crammed with enough black & white paper to last 10 years.

[Millennium]

A sad day indeed. I'm not a huge photographer, but I took a course or two on it in high school, and we used black and white film then. I've still got the camera. I think we used Ilford paper, rather than Kodak, but it's still sad to see a product like that go.

[jersey]

Originally Posted by CollinG3G4

Kodak probably has half a dozen warehouses crammed with enough black & white paper to last 10 years.

there paper plant is in brazil, and they have already ceased making paper (essentially rendering the plant useless, but the worst part of all this is the loss of 15000 brazilian jobs) and have made an official statement claiming to have a 6 month supply. so by this time next year,probably sooner, it wont even be on the shelves.

I am seriously contemplating buying a crap-load and keeping in my refrigerator. it'll stay fresh for a decent amount of time that way........

[macamac]

I used to love shooting Tri-X Pan film.

[alphasubzero949]

I'm sure that some biotech firm will pick up the pieces and then turn around and charge 3x FWIW. A part of my research requires getting the results on film via a wet darkroom.