[Buckaroo]

It’s going to be a wonderful Christmas. In fact most of you will receive an extra bonus with your Christmas paycheck. It’ll be a pink slip.

Yup, that’s right, along with all those Socialists (Democrats) you voted into office, you also voted in some new Socialist objectives, number one on that list includes [tens] of millions of new cheap Mexican workers. That’s right, now you will have to give up your job to millions of illegal aliens - you won’t even know what happened. One day everything was rosy, and the next you’ll be unemployed. THIS IS A FACT.

You see, this is one issue that Republicans were angry with G.W. Bush. And a lot of us didn’t even bother voting because of it. We decided the hell with it, if they ain’t going to do something about the illegal’s, then the hell with them.

Heck I know several small companies that already have plans to ditch their high priced Democrats with cheap foreign labor. You think it was bad when companies started building their factories in foreign countries to avoid high wages, HA, that ain’t nothing till they get to pay cheap wages and they don’t even have to move the factory, and on top of that YOU get to pay (through higher taxes) the free medical/social/education benefits that these illegal’s are getting. The big companies are smiling ear to ear for cheap wages. You are going to feel the pain like you have never felt it before. Your big Union Bosses sold you out so big, and what is sad is you don’t even know it.




I changed hundreds to [tens].

[Buckaroo]

I forgot to mention, don't think you'll be able to depend on Social Security for anything. You see, GW was so busy trying to suck up to the Mexican's he was willing to pay Mexican's (illegal aliens) Social Security benifits. Those new Democrats are going to give full Social Security benifits to all South America. You are SCREWED.

[ironknee]

more fud

[hyteckit]

That's the Christmas Spirit.

[Helmling]

Xenophobic screed warning us that the immigrants will steal our jobs and ruin the values of our society...where have I heard this before?

Oh, that's right, in the history books. It's a classic backlash against every major wave of immigrants into the U.S. They said this about the Chinese, about the Irish, about every group they thought was at all different, but in the end, it is immigration that kept America vibrant and competitive.

So, you'll pardon me if I don't hold my breath for your prophecy to come true.

[Pendergast]

Kommunist AmeriKa!!!

[ironknee]

[Buckaroo]

Laugh now, you are clueless, and soon you will be jobless.

[Pendergast]

Originally Posted by Buckaroo 

Laugh now, you are clueless, and soon you will be jobless.

The End is nigh!

Get them tinfoil head dresses!

You are doomed!

Ak Qaeda is owning you and Canadians and the French will take over!

Mouah ha ha ha ha ha haaaaaa!

[analogika]

Originally Posted by Buckaroo 

Laugh now, you are clueless, and soon you will be jobless.

Jawohl, mein Führer.

[olePigeon]

Damn Irish are stealing all the jobs.

I mean Mexicans.

[CRASH HARDDRIVE]

Originally Posted by Helmling 

but in the end, it is LEGAL immigration that kept America vibrant and competitive.

Fixed for you, since you did the usual trick of leaving out the key difference. Most of the groups you mentioned and others, in fact assimilated and became part of American culture, not tried to force America to change to the cultures they left.

So, you'll pardon me if I don't hold my breath for your prophecy to come true.

Personally, I think his predictions were a little over the top, and it's true the Republicans are no better than the Democrats at enforcing the immigration laws.

However, the same people cheering on millions of scab laborers to cross the line and undermine wages in this country have NO room to then turn around and bitch about wanting "living wages", better work conditions, more benefits and all the other stuff that comes from employers having to OBEY laws and play by set RULES. You illegal cheerleaders have tossed a lot of that out. Cause and effect. The message has been sent that employers don't have to obey even the most basic laws of hiring, so how do the same doofuses think that won't also extend to other aspects of employment that can clearly be ignored as businesses see fit also? Heck, it's even "racist" to play by the rules, let's all remember.

To any illegal cheerleader who doesn't like low wages and lesser bennies: tough ****. You made your bed. Lie in it.

[Chuckit]

If a Mexican can do my job as well as I can, he deserves to have it. Fortunately for me, I am good at what I do.

[CRASH HARDDRIVE]

Originally Posted by Chuckit 

If a Mexican can do my job as well as I can, he deserves to have it. Fortunately for me, I am good at what I do.

Typical self-centered and myopic way of looking at it. The problem is, that Mexican displaces a legal citizen who could have done that job, and who would have demanded a decent wage for doing so. That displaced worker goes looking for work- probably for lower pay than normal- in some other field, displacing someone else. And so on, and so on, until it moves up the chain far enough to effect you as well. Worse, companies get the green light to look for more and more positions they can fill with lower paid workers the more that are available, and the more dummies give them the greenlight to do so by declaring it "OK" with the whole insane "Jobs Americans won't do" copout. That idiocy has already moved up the chain far enough to replace mechanics, construction workers, and others SKILLED positions, and will continue to as long as people give tacit approval. Fine, but like I said, then don't go bitching about lower wages and crappier and crappier job conditions. It's what many people are ASKING for.

[Saetre]

I can't wait to give all my overpaid non-mexican employees pink slips for Christmas. Yay Dems!

[Chuckit]

How "skilled" can you be if you are easily replaced by somebody who didn't have enough skill to get sponsored for legal immigration and can't find work anywhere else?

I'm all for stopping illegal immigration, but I am not afraid of a Mexican hoping across a fence and taking my job. I'm actually in favor of making legal immigration easier, tossing illegal immigrants into Gitmo and cracking down on employers for following existing employment laws (and possibly looking into those laws to make sure they are actually reasonable). Now, that would be a fair system for everybody.

[spindler]

When Republicans talk about the cost of social services for Mexicans, I can believe that.

When they talk about Mexicans stealing jobs, that is laughable.

Most Mexicans are doing $10 an hour jobs with their hands. They aren't allowed to do others and don't speak English. According to Republicans, a person who can only make $10 an hour is a failure in life who doesn't want to succeed and live the American dream. I don't see how you could be against the minimum wage, and look down at a guy who just rakes leaves or works at McDonald's, and then complain about Meixcans stealing their jobs. According to Republicans, they only have those jobs because they don't want to go anywhere in life.

[Dakar²]

Well, someone's a little bitter about the election results.

[TailsToo]

Okay, I have to admit, this is really funny.

[Wiskedjak]

Originally Posted by Buckaroo 

It’s going to be a wonderful Christmas. In fact most of you will receive an extra bonus with your Christmas paycheck. It’ll be a pink slip.

Yup, that’s right, along with all those Socialists (Democrats) you voted into office, you also voted in some new Socialist objectives, number one on that list includes hundreds of millions of new cheap Mexican workers. That’s right, now you will have to give up your job to millions of illegal aliens - you won’t even know what happened. One day everything was rosy, and the next you’ll be unemployed. THIS IS A FACT.

You see, this is one issue that Republicans were angry with G.W. Bush. And a lot of us didn’t even bother voting because of it. We decided the hell with it, if they ain’t going to do something about the illegal’s, then the hell with them.

Heck I know several small companies that already have plans to ditch their high priced Democrats with cheap foreign labor. You think it was bad when companies started building their factories in foreign countries to avoid high wages, HA, that ain’t nothing till they get to pay cheap wages and they don’t even have to move the factory, and on top of that YOU get to pay (through higher taxes) the free medical/social/education benefits that these illegal’s are getting. The big companies are smiling ear to ear for cheap wages. You are going to feel the pain like you have never felt it before. Your big Union Bosses sold you out so big, and what is sad is you don’t even know it.

And the rightie whining begins ...

[CRASH HARDDRIVE]

Originally Posted by Chuckit 

How "skilled" can you be if you are easily replaced by somebody who didn't have enough skill to get sponsored for legal immigration and can't find work anywhere else?

This is another part of the problem, the arrogance and ignorance of people who think the entire rest of the world is unskilled. The fact of the matter is, there are plenty of people from what are considered third world countries who CAN do your job, and the jobs of millions of other people- just as well, or better than you can. Including plenty of Mexicans.

I know personally of many incredible graphic artists and animators from central and south America- many of them way better than their US counterparts. (To say nothing of Asia, and eastern Europe). It's expensive to sponsor and bring them in legally, but companies do so anyway, which is fine. But if my company wants to cheat everyone else, they can skirt the laws, bring people in illegally, pay these people $hit compared to wages for nationals (to the illegal it's still worthwhile compared to wages where they are from) and then royally SCREW everyone in the industry for fun and profit.

Other studios would have to follow suit to compete with the lowered cost of labor that the cheater leverages to undercut everyone else. What do you think would then happen to the wages of American artists in such a free for all cheater's market that so many are encouraging? Can you say, IN THE CRAPPER boys and girls? Then what happens to those displaced artists? They go and seek employment in other fields- often unrelated fields. To have a chance over others already in that field, they will often accept lesser wages. The employer also looks and sees more people than usual applying for jobs, and can lower his wages. Then guess what eventually happens to that field, and its workers? And so on, and so on.

And all of this for what? So shady businesses can line their pockets with cheaper labor? People cheering this **** on for ANY field, and encouraging shady business to keep finding new ways to hire illegal labor, and then in the next breath whining about low wages, are just idiots, pure and simple. Anyone who's ever belonged to a union knows how insane and shooting yourself in the ass it is to allow scab labor to cross your line to take jobs right out from under you for absolute **** wages, and how the company would jumping for joy at the chance to do so, and tell the union worker to take his wage demands to go take a royal hike. WHY the F are people outside of a union setup so blind and stupid to the same thing when it comes to screwing themselves with illegal labor?

How anyone can believe you can import millions upon millions of illegal workers willing to undermine the wage and other laws of the country, and not have a profound affect on other jobs as well, is just pure stupidity. "The more the merrier" is NOT the case when it comes to a healthy wage market, and anyone who's ever looked for work amid too many other people also looking for work should know.

But anyway, as I said, to those too dense to figure this out, and cheering on employers to keep seeking out illegal workforces to replace more and more jobs: go choke on your inevitable wage and work condition complaints.

I'm all for stopping illegal immigration, but I am not afraid of a Mexican hoping across a fence and taking my job. I'm actually in favor of making legal immigration easier, tossing illegal immigrants into Gitmo and cracking down on employers for following existing employment laws (and possibly looking into those laws to make sure they are actually reasonable). Now, that would be a fair system for everybody.

No disagreement there.

[Ron Goodman]

Over on Townhall.com, the bulk of the anger seems directed at McCain for being disloyal and at Bush for not being more anti-immigration. (And there's the standard refrain heard from conservatives whenever they lose an election--"We should have been more conservative".) I had thought that McCain would be the Republicans strongest contender against Hillary in 2008, but if the anger I saw is widespread, it's hard to see him ever getting the nomination.

[ebuddy]

Originally Posted by spindler 

When Republicans talk about the cost of social services for Mexicans, I can believe that.

When they talk about Mexicans stealing jobs, that is laughable.

Okay, you're new at this so I'll go easy on you.

Most Mexicans are doing $10 an hour jobs with their hands.

In fact, most people work with their hands.

Below you talk about minimum wage, here you refer to $10.00/hour and hidden neatly within is your simpleton notion that Republicans believe Mexicans don't want to go anywhere in life. Then, interestingly you segway into Republicans somehow complaining about Mexicans stealing their jobs which I thought according to you; Mexicans couldn't get. You know, the "hand jobs" like the one you're trying to give the entire left half of this forum. Funny thing is, I suspect most of them won't even take you seriously.

They aren't allowed to do others and don't speak English.

Of course you realize that most in the US speak English. It is not the Republican's fault entirely. Do you speak Spanish? Why not? Are the Republican Mexicans holding you down?

According to Republicans, a person who can only make $10 an hour is a failure in life who doesn't want to succeed and live the American dream.

No, unfortunately those earning $10.00 or less per hour are generally considered "unskilled" and are the first jobs employers will hack when the minimum wage increases are imposed. The only decision is whether you should raise the price of your goods before or after hacking your unskilled increased overhead. Republicans like myself are concerned that this is yet another example of soft bigotry. You may be shocked to know the average Mexican does not need the help of yet another bleeding heart youngster with good intentions founded upon the most racist of naivete, so he can sleep well at night thinking he's done his small part to save the Universe.

My wife's boss is Mexican and he agrees with me, there's not a whole hell of a lot you can offer him. He doesn't want your $10.00/hr. He wants your patronage at his car dealership, boutique, restaurant, telemarketing firm, insurance company, etc...

I don't see how you could be against the minimum wage, and look down at a guy who just rakes leaves or works at McDonald's, and then complain about Meixcans stealing their jobs. According to Republicans, they only have those jobs because they don't want to go anywhere in life.

I've raked leaves for money, worked at a pizzaria and I didn't look down on anyone, but then I was probably too busy admiring the Indian woman who owned the restaurant and was getting ready to open three more stores. That meant I could be a supervisor making hmm, approx. $8.50/hour, but then minimum wage was $4.15/hour at the time. I personally didn't want anything to do with minimum wage and I was 16 years old.

Why do you suggest the average Mexican's expectations would be any lower than mine at 16?

[besson3c]

I love these knee jerk reactions about Democrats being socialists, Democrats wanting to raise taxes, Democrats being terrorists, etc.

I hope our government does work on finding common ground, because I'm completely sick and tired of this nonsense. Give it a damn rest, will you?

[itai195]

Originally Posted by Buckaroo 

It’s going to be a wonderful Christmas. In fact most of you will receive an extra bonus with your Christmas paycheck. It’ll be a pink slip.

I'm not particularly concerned about losing my job to an illegal immigrant.

Yup, that’s right, along with all those Socialists (Democrats) you voted into office, you also voted in some new Socialist objectives, number one on that list includes hundreds of millions of new cheap Mexican workers.

The population of Mexico is 103.1 million. Hundreds of millions of Mexican workers don't exist.

You see, this is one issue that Republicans were angry with G.W. Bush. And a lot of us didn’t even bother voting because of it. We decided the hell with it, if they ain’t going to do something about the illegal’s, then the hell with them.

If you don't vote, you got no right complaining about who others voted for.

Heck I know several small companies that already have plans to ditch their high priced Democrats with cheap foreign labor.

Good thing the high priced Republicans have nothing to worry about.

and on top of that YOU get to pay (through higher taxes) the free medical/social/education benefits that these illegal’s are getting.

Cool, I guess we can add it to the $1 trillion+ bill Bush has racked up for his wars and tax cuts.

The big companies are smiling ear to ear for cheap wages.

I thought Republicans were pro business?

Your big Union Bosses sold you out so big, and what is sad is you don’t even know it.

My big union boss is your imaginary friend.

[Powerbook]

Originally Posted by Buckaroo 

Laugh now, you are clueless, and soon you will be jobless.

Oh no! It's the commies again!

[villalobos]

Originally Posted by Buckaroo 

It’s going to be a wonderful Christmas. In fact most of you will receive an extra bonus with your Christmas paycheck. It’ll be a pink slip.

Yup, that’s right, along with all those Socialists (Democrats) you voted into office, you also voted in some new Socialist objectives, number one on that list includes hundreds of millions of new cheap Mexican workers. That’s right, now you will have to give up your job to millions of illegal aliens - you won’t even know what happened. One day everything was rosy, and the next you’ll be unemployed. THIS IS A FACT.

You see, this is one issue that Republicans were angry with G.W. Bush. And a lot of us didn’t even bother voting because of it. We decided the hell with it, if they ain’t going to do something about the illegal’s, then the hell with them.

Heck I know several small companies that already have plans to ditch their high priced Democrats with cheap foreign labor. You think it was bad when companies started building their factories in foreign countries to avoid high wages, HA, that ain’t nothing till they get to pay cheap wages and they don’t even have to move the factory, and on top of that YOU get to pay (through higher taxes) the free medical/social/education benefits that these illegal’s are getting. The big companies are smiling ear to ear for cheap wages. You are going to feel the pain like you have never felt it before. Your big Union Bosses sold you out so big, and what is sad is you don’t even know it.

You might get people riled up a tad more if you add that they stink, that they are inferior race, and they are coming to rape your wives and stuff. Worked before. Was wrong on all accounts, just like you are, but it worked.

[analogika]

What happened to my first post in this thread? Why was it deleted?

It's perfectly legitimate to interpret Buckaroo's opening two posts as proof that he has a problem with the size of his penis, and absolutely on-topic to postulate that the Democrats are exacerbating this problem.

There's really not many other conclusions to be drawn from this thread.

[mac128k-1984]

I have to say that the republicans truly deserve what the reaped.
First off I'm not a bleeding heart liberal but middle of the road person so this isn't a flame on the losers.

Looking at where we are:
Domestically - Oil companies reaping huge profits as we pay through the nose for gas, paychecks not moving. Inflation inching up, jobs moving offshore and the presidant says that's a good thing for the world - well what about us here in the states how is that good?

Foreign perspective - stuck in a war that has turned into a quagmire with no true exit strategy. Staying the course until its finished isn't an exit strategy.

Finally there's conduct, I think the replublicans have lost touch with middle america. I don't mean liberals or ultra conservatives but people like me. I care less about gay marriages bans then I do about affording heating and food.

I think its both democrat and republican's fault but there has been zero activity in congress the last couple of years other then dealing with scandals. These guys (both parties) lead a life of luxury and privilage and have no clue as to what it takes to live check to check.

[Dakar²]

Give Buckaroo some credit. Instead of telling us the terrorists will kill us, he used the Mexican threat. Which is quite the twist since that Wall got approved not too long ago.

[Taliesin]

Originally Posted by CRASH HARDDRIVE 

Most of the groups you mentioned and others, in fact assimilated and became part of American culture, not tried to force America to change to the cultures they left.

I have heard this argument again and again, but from my little and restricted research into the topic, it looks as if it is a myth.

It seems more realistic that all immigrants from all times and places tried to force America to change to the cultures they left. The italians did it, the germans did it, the irish did it, the chinese did it, the mexicans did it...
America's dynamic culture is the result of different immigrant-groups that tried to change America to the cultures they left, while being faced with the need to survive and become successful in the new environment.

So when they tried to transform America to the culture they knew, while trying to survive and to become successful, they were inevitably changing themselves, always weighing the pros and cons of certain aspects of cultures, keeping those that are benifitting them spiritually or otherwise, changing others to be more acceptable, and discarding those that were damaging. That process of interaction between cultures got renewed with every generation that is born... until they became the America we know today.

Taliesin

[powerbook867]

I am building an Ark in my back yard so that when the flood of Mexicans arrive, my family and 2 of every animal will survive! (we're in the process now of making sure we have no gay animals...that would ruin all our plans!!!) We are terribly concerned about dying in the flood of all those illegals or from a random, violent burrito attack!

When the flood subsides, wifey and I will begin the world anew!

FUD

[ebuddy]

Originally Posted by mac128k-1984 

Looking at where we are:
Domestically - Oil companies reaping huge profits as we pay through the nose for gas,

You're not paying through the nose for gas. Oil company profit margins are actually lower than one would expect. I find gauging at the pump reprehensible, but much of this is the tax you're paying on the gas my friend. Bush does not control gas prices.

paychecks not moving.

Bush has nothing to do with why your paycheck is not moving. The economy is moving like gang-busters, you may want to ask your boss for a raise.

Inflation inching up

inflation is approx. where Clinton left it in 1997.

jobs moving offshore and the presidant says that's a good thing for the world - well what about us here in the states how is that good?

I agree this is not a good thing. Businesses have caught on to the fact that you can outsource jobs to other countries and save money. You might recall, Clinton (D) signed NAFTA into law.

Foreign perspective - stuck in a war that has turned into a quagmire with no true exit strategy. Staying the course until its finished isn't an exit strategy.

What do you suggest we do? If "staying the course until it's finished" isn't an exit strategy to you, what is? I personally welcome the exchange of ideals as they relate to the now, louder voice of the Democrat. The change you're hoping for here may not be the change you'll see however. I anticipate a massive build-up of US military in Iraq w/ several key goals in mind, then a shift of the surplus in personnel to Afghanistan. Now, I'd welcome that "change", but make no mistake-the Dems are not going to pull us out of Iraq.

Finally there's conduct, I think the replublicans have lost touch with middle america. I don't mean liberals or ultra conservatives but people like me. I care less about gay marriages bans then I do about affording heating and food.

I'm inclined to agree here with the fact that Republicans had lost touch with middle America. In fact, in most cases they stopped communicating with it until election season fired up. I found their unwillingness to communicate aspects of Iraq particularly troubling, but I've gone into more detail on this in the election predictions thread.

You see, middle America is conservative and the Republicans were not. The Dems elected to office are among the most Conservative Democrats you'll find. I personally voted to retain one of them. This election was not a referendum on Conservatism, it was a referendum on Republicanism. Remember, most of the elections were won by slim margins. The mandate given to the new House and Senate is "openness" and "honesty", not "heating and food for all", nor a change in current, immensely successful domestic economic policy.

I think its both democrat and republican's fault but there has been zero activity in congress the last couple of years other then dealing with scandals.

They've arguably been busy alright, hiking up spending. They've also been involved in scandals which hurt them immensely. They saw a group of people saying one thing, doing another. America is tired of it and voted checks and balances back in after having given the Republicans a substantial go of it alone.

These guys (both parties) lead a life of luxury and privilage and have no clue as to what it takes to live check to check.

I also agree with this, but the idea here is personal betterment. Some of them in fact did at one point work from check to check. Your success or failure is not contingent upon Congress and the Senate, it is contingent upon your willingness to become successful.

I'd be willing to bet you've got more computers than the average Joe.

[BlueSky]

Though your conclusion is extreme, I do agree in spirit and I almost didn't vote for this reason. As much as I wanted to see the Repubs thrown out, I'm not anxious to see the mess the Dems will make out of the current illegal invasion crisis, and worse yet they seem to have Bush on their side.

Then the Kerry thing happened, I was reminded of the need to clean out the lying stuffed shirt scum, and I voted.

[Pendergast]

Originally Posted by Dakar² 

Give Buckaroo some credit. Instead of telling us the terrorists will kill us, he used the Mexican threat. Which is quite the twist since that Wall got approved not too long ago.

You forgot the threat the Democrats represent. They are the new enemy now.

Should there be a Republican Guard?

[davesimondotcom]

I've been "laid off" twice since GWB became President. Neither would I blame on politicians in office. One was truly downsizing, one was asshat bosses.

That's why I'm self-employed. So I doubt I'll get a pink slip. Unless I really f*ck myself over.

[probablecause]

Some of you are missing the point here. This issue is about illegal immigration.
An illegal immigrant is someone who enters the country without going through the legal procedures necessary to gain entry, get a job and reside here. I'm all for legal immigrants from Mexico or anywhere and I'm not worried about them taking my job.

Vast quantities of people fleeing Mexico is going to have a negative effect on the economy. They will lower wages for all jobs here and they are intelligent and more than capable of taking the jobs you think you are safe in. I think a lot liberals on this forum are racist in a subtle way. They think a Mexican immigrant isn't capable of being a scientist or a university professor and so they will always work as the maid or food processor. Not.

If you are "for" illegal immigration what you really want is for the border to dissolve completely since you don't want any controls whatsoever. Perhaps Mexico and the United States will merge someday politically and culturally, but until then Mexico has a corrupt and ineffective government and they are more than happy to make the U.S. pay for their mistakes.

[sek929]

Unless ignorant border-crossers know how to kick ass at carpentry right when the enter the USA I think I'll be fine.

Man, partisan politics brings out the worst in everyone here on these boards.

[Dakar²]

Well, the elections make it so much worse.

50% of people not getting their way & the other 50% gloating about it.*

*Source: MacNN Ministry of Numbers and Forum Renovation

[nonhuman]

Sweet, I can save money by ...firing myself and hiring an illegal Mexican replacement.

Man, being self-employed doesn't get you any benefits!

[sek929]

Originally Posted by Dakar² 

Well, the elections make it so much worse.

50% of people not getting their way & the other 50% gloating about it.*

*Source: MacNN Ministry of Numbers and Forum Renovation

My political party has a bigger d!ck than your political party!

[Dakar²]

Originally Posted by sek929 

My political party has a bigger d!ck than your political party!

[sek929]

I lawled

[analogika]

Originally Posted by sek929 

My political party has a bigger d!ck than your political party!

Careful or vmarks will delete your post...

[CRASH HARDDRIVE]

Originally Posted by sek929 

Unless ignorant border-crossers know how to kick ass at carpentry right when the enter the USA I think I'll be fine.

Man, partisan politics brings out the worst in everyone here on these boards.

You would have to be either blind, ignorant, or stupid to think carpentry isn't a skill many people coming across the border don't have. After too many contractors leverage their advantage by paying them **** compared to someone hiring you above board, will we all just chalk it up to another "Job Americans won't do?"

[melismak]

woo-hoo! Long live the Dems!!

[CRASH HARDDRIVE]

Originally Posted by Taliesin 

I have heard this argument again and again, but from my little and restricted research into the topic, it looks as if it is a myth.

I'm sorry, but I don't think we're talking about the same thing. First of all, the immigrant groups you mentioned came legally. As legal residents, they can do as they please. Many of them may have formed enclaves... "Little ___'s" of the places they came from, but none of these groups has sought to force everyone else to change the rest of the culture as a whole into the place they came from.

None of them tried to force all public schools to cater to their original language. Even if the first generations to arrive didn't fully assimilate, learn the language (English) obey the laws of the nation, etc. their kids did and still do.

Of course immigrants make changes the country they come to, and there's nothing wrong with that. Do so by coming here LEGALLY, like everyone else, not by cutting in line in front of everyone else.

[Rumor]

Originally Posted by Dakar² 

[spacefreak]

So, now with a Democratc-controlled Congress, let's see how our economy reacts. As of the election, here's where we stood:

Gas: $2.20/ gallon
Unemployment: 4.4%
Dow Jones: 12,239.90 (all time high)
Inflation: 3.0%
30-year fixed mortgage: 6.31%

Oh yeah, no terror attacks on the homeland since 9/11.

[Rumor]

Originally Posted by spacefreak 

Oh yeah, no terror attacks on the homeland since 9/11.

How many "terrorist" attacks on US soil have there been?