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Some of you may have seen the CNN holographic reporter.
How does it work? I know there are a bunch of cameras at her end forming the 3D image, but does Blitzer actually see her on the stage? If so, how is it projected there?
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It's a pretty lame, useless gimmick, imo. And the fake Star Wars effect is just ridiculous.
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If Wolf Blitzer and the studio audience can actually see her 3D form, I don't see it as a lame at all. Gimmick, yes, but it will be very interesting as the technology matures.
Now, if it's just a video overlay for the broadcast, then yeah, it's lame.
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Originally Posted by Eug 
Some of you may have seen the CNN holographic reporter.
How does it work? I know there are a bunch of cameras at her end forming the 3D image, but does Blitzer actually see her on the stage? If so, how is it projected there?
Pretty sure he's just pretending to see her, in the same way that weather reporters pretend to see the weather maps they're pointing to.
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I don't believe that any human saw Jessica on the stage with their own eyes. The effect is only for TV viewers.
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Originally Posted by Silky Voice of The Gorn
And the fake Star Wars effect is just ridiculous.
Is that fake, or is it very immature tech? Sometimes you see that in those cheap green screen overlays for low budget kids' TV shows.
The aspect ratio distortion is bad though. Or does she just look like a gnome in real life? 
Originally Posted by The Godfather
I don't believe that any human saw Jessica on the stage with their own eyes. The effect is only for TV viewers.
OK then, I agree that's lame.
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Originally Posted by Eug
Is that fake, or is it very immature tech? Sometimes you see that in those cheap green screen overlays for low budget kids' TV shows.
The aspect ratio distortion is bad though. Or does she just look like a gnome in real life?
OK then, I agree that's lame.
I'm pretty sure it's fake added effect.
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Originally Posted by Eug
If Wolf Blitzer and the studio audience can actually see her 3D form, I don't see it as a lame at all. Gimmick, yes, but it will be very interesting as the technology matures.
Now, if it's just a video overlay for the broadcast, then yeah, it's lame.
you don't seriously think Blitzer can see her do you?
I love the way they try to sell their little gimiicky trick instead of talking about the news. I know why I don't watch cable...
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Originally Posted by villalobos
you don't seriously think Blitzer can see her do you?
Well, they did say hologram, which is why I wondered.
A video overlay is not what I consider a hologram.
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When Yellin first appeared, Blitzer pointed out how great it is, because he could talk to her without the distraction of what's going on around her.
That's the BLOODY POINT of having a reporter at the scene. CONTEXT.
What a crock. This is the worst hyped tech since the cue:cat.
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Originally Posted by Eug
Holographic reporter: How does it work?
Not very well.
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I think they called it a holograph instead of a plain overlay because she was in 3D instead of 2D. I don't consider this to be a hologram at all, but it is more complicated than a green screen used for the weather.
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My first thought when I saw it was CNN has now jumped the shark.
My guess is they were originally going to use the technology to teleport someone into the studio, but since they couldn't figure out how to remove the chroma artifact left around the subject they decided to call it a hologram. Wolf accidentally said she was being "beamed" into the studio because that was the original intention. Very lame gimmick indeed being called a hologram. It was defiantly awkward to me when he was acting like he could really see her. It just feels wrong for reporters to lie about what they are seeing.
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Originally Posted by SSharon
I think they called it a holograph instead of a plain overlay because she was in 3D instead of 2D. I don't consider this to be a hologram at all, but it is more complicated than a green screen used for the weather.
What about her was in 3D?
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Originally Posted by Laminar
What about her was in 3D?
I thought I remember the camera circling her. Maybe I'm not remembering it right and giving them more credit than they deserve.
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I was hoping that maybe a fly would have gotten into the hologram machine and Wolf Blizter would get his hand vomited off by a half-fly/half-human monstrosity.
That would be news.
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If this were a viable technology, porn would be using it already.
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We really do live in the future. We have a black president and holographic news reporters.
It would have been so much better if these holograms had a big H on their foreheads.
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Originally Posted by ort888
We really do live in the future. We have a black president and holographic news reporters.
It would have been so much better if these holograms had a big H on their foreheads.
This I could get behind.
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Originally Posted by Dakar V
If this were a viable technology, porn would be using it already.
They already do, it's just so advanced that you can't even tell.
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Help me Obi-Wolf Blitzer. You're my only hope!
Wouldn't Wolf be Chewbacca?
Or an Ewok?
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I'm thinking this should be the big feature in the next version of iChat. 
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She could have been projected onto the stage with blitzer with 3 or 4 projectors, but I don't believe they did this.
Also, if you're bringing the holograms, I'm gonna need someone to bring up a pic of kryten or the cat.
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Originally Posted by Rumor
" The day after her virtual appearance in New York, Yellin said this kind of new technology is what keeps television news entertaining, even when it's presenting important political stories
 
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Even after jumping the shark, CNN will keep enjoying the increasing viewership of couch potatoes worldwide.
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Originally Posted by Lava Lamp Freak
My first thought when I saw it was CNN has now jumped the shark.
My guess is they were originally going to use the technology to teleport someone into the studio, but since they couldn't figure out how to remove the chroma artifact left around the subject they decided to call it a hologram. Wolf accidentally said she was being "beamed" into the studio because that was the original intention. Very lame gimmick indeed being called a hologram. It was defiantly awkward to me when he was acting like he could really see her. It just feels wrong for reporters to lie about what they are seeing.
My hunch is that the halo is very deliberate. We've been able to successfully chroma-key without halos for years. All this "hologram" nonsense is is chroma-keying from many angles at once and matching up the right angles in the remote and local studios. It's really just a chroma-keyed version of the "3D" stop-motion used at some Super Bowl a while back. You could also call it a real-time version of the Matrix effect.
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