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Migrating Old XP Account / Applications
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After an hour and a half, I'm no closer to a solution. So I figured I'd seek help here as well. Here's the issue:
1. Old P4 computer with WinXP died (CPU and PSU died). It is completely non-functional.
2. Made a new PC with all new components and new HDD with fresh Win 7 installation.
3. Plugged in old PC HDD into new PC as a secondary drive.
How on earth do you transfer the account and applications from the old PC's HDD to the new one at this stage? I'm at a complete loss. The migration assistant for Windows requires the old PC to be functional and concurrently running in one way or the other. It's not and it doesn't. All I have is the old HDD it self and the new computer.
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Seems like a Windows forum might be a better place to ask that kind of question.
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I have plenty of more important things to do, if only I could bring myself to do them....
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Originally Posted by Waragainstsleep
Seems like a Windows forum might be a better place to ask that kind of question.
One would think, yeah. And I did. Just no answers there either. Figured there were some knowledgeable peeps on here as well. In any event, I think I found a way. A very indirect way, but a way nonetheless.
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The funny part is that Apple will be updating Migration Assistant in 10.7 to include transferring stuff from Windows. Microsoft can't even do it with their own OS.
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you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods,
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Originally Posted by Cold Warrior
What's the indirect way?
I had a crazy idea.
1. Download/install VirtualBox.
2. Download/install WinImage (30-day fully featured trial)
3. Download/install PickMeApp Beta (currently free) onto orphaned HDD.
4. Install Windows Easy Transfer onto orphaned HDD.
5. Use WinImage to create a .vhd of the orphaned HDD.
6. Load said .vhd into VirtualBox.
7. Run Windows Easy Transfer as normal to transfer User Accounts and settings.
8. Run PickMeApp Beta to transfer applications from orphaned HDD onto host machine.
None of this is tested, yet. I'm still converting the HDD to virtual disk.
[update]
Finished creating .vhd. Virtual disk loaded just fine, but the computer stalls at mup.sys during safe boot. Not unexpected, as the hardware on the VM and the original machine are completely different. Booting off of XP disc now and doing a WIndows Repair on the virtual disk.
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Last edited by Warhaven; Jun 10, 2011 at 07:10 PM.
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You could try Microsoft's disk2vhd tool. It should run in Windows 7 but let you select the second HDD where XP sits.
Disk2vhd
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Apps? Don't bother. They all rely on registry entries to function correctly. Re-install them.
Data?
You old data will be
Code:
<driveletter>:\Documents and Settings\<User>\
Your new data willl need to go to
Code:
<driveletter:\Users\<user>
I can write you a guide to getting the old HDD booting on new hardware if you tell me the make and model of the old and new motherboard and how they were connected (IDE/SATA).
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Originally Posted by Cold Warrior
You could try Microsoft's disk2vhd tool. It should run in Windows 7 but let you select the second HDD where XP sits.
Disk2vhd
That's work just as well in place of WinImage, thanks. So far, it's worked well except for the WGA. As soon as I loaded it into the VM, XP immediately de-authenticated the serial number and won't let me log in. Been on the phone with Microsoft for the last several hours getting transferred among three different departments. Just finished getting transferred back to technical support and they tell me I need to call Sony.
Aaaaaanyway. Microsoft sucks balls when it comes to moving to a new computer. Apple still reigns supreme in this department.
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Call Sony?
What are Sony going to do about licensing?
What is the problem you're having?
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If you are trying to move an account from an old disk to a new disk, have you tried to see if Windows Easy Transfer would work under your circumstances? It will transfer most things in your home directory, just not in the Application Data or Local Settings folders, but it will transfer documents, and apps.
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As far as I know, Easy Transfer requires you to have access to both working installations.
It creates its own special file and you can't do anything without that.
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Just when you think Microsoft might have done something right for change, they turn around and do something monumentally stupid. Did it not occur to anyone at Microsoft that a PC might die, and that someone would need to transfer docs and applications from a dead PC to a new one?
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A major part of the problem is that the Windows architecture is just so poor and fragile below the surface that it's not well suited to this type of thing. It's also a bear to properly clone a boot disk and set up multi-boot options on Windows. Windows people don't migrate installations. In fact, they commonly reformat their drives at a drop of a hat.
The big thing Windows really has going for it is its software base, and it's that base that keeps Microsoft locked into the legacy Windows architecture.
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Last edited by Big Mac; Jun 13, 2011 at 11:14 PM.
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