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Oct 15, 2015, 11:20 AM
 
I missed the debate, but my close friend and ardent Bernie supporter (who would argue the Republican Party should be abolished) said he came off like a commie agitator.

That actually kinda makes me sad. I like the guy. Webb is a better fit with me from a policy standpoint, but between Sanders and Clinton, I'd pick Sanders in a heartbeat.
     
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Oct 15, 2015, 11:29 AM
 
I didn't see it either, but have seen lots of proBernie links. Notably, he said America is sick of hearing about Clinton's emails.
     
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Oct 15, 2015, 11:33 AM
 
I listened to it yesterday. It's my first real exposure to him. He has a really funny voice, but the comments I was seeing were his default voice is yelling. Basically, to me, each response built to a crescendo.

I think he's reminiscent of this guy:


I can understand why people would be turned off by his delivery if they don't care for his politics. To contrast him with Trump, however, he doesn't feel as personal or demeaning.
     
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Oct 15, 2015, 12:01 PM
 
I've noticed a trend in that established Democratic senators who make a national play can't communicate for shit.

Sanders.
Biden.
Kerry.

I think they don't switch gears from how they operate in the Senate.
     
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Oct 15, 2015, 12:09 PM
 
They are all old white guys, too.

I don't recall Biden's problems, though.
     
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Oct 15, 2015, 12:11 PM
 
"I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean..."
     
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Oct 15, 2015, 12:19 PM
 
Originally Posted by subego View Post
"I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean..."
Ah. With Sanders, I assumed you were referring to delivery, and then inferred that was Biden's problem as well. Which I would classify more as bad ****ing perspective problem. Edit: Old white guy problem too, though.
     
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Oct 15, 2015, 12:26 PM
 
At his point I'm close to withdrawing support for the guy, (like Trump) he doesn't seem emotionally stable enough to be president.
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Oct 15, 2015, 12:53 PM
 
Originally Posted by subego View Post
I missed the debate, but my close friend and ardent Bernie supporter (who would argue the Republican Party should be abolished) said he came off like a commie agitator.

That actually kinda makes me sad. I like the guy. Webb is a better fit with me from a policy standpoint, but between Sanders and Clinton, I'd pick Sanders in a heartbeat.
I watched the debate and I would say that's overstated. He came off like your "grumpy grandpa" that you know is only telling you the truth but you really aren't trying to hear him because his demeanor is so off-putting.

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Oct 15, 2015, 12:56 PM
 
Originally Posted by OAW View Post
"grumpy grandpa"
That's pretty much it, or crazy uncle (That hair).
     
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Oct 15, 2015, 12:58 PM
 
Originally Posted by The Final Dakar View Post
I listened to it yesterday. It's my first real exposure to him. He has a really funny voice, but the comments I was seeing were his default voice is yelling. Basically, to me, each response built to a crescendo.

I think he's reminiscent of this guy:


I can understand why people would be turned off by his delivery if they don't care for his politics. To contrast him with Trump, however, he doesn't feel as personal or demeaning.
That's part of Bernie's appearance problem: he has a dandruff problem too. But I feel we need someone who is mad as hell and not going to take it anymore.
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Oct 15, 2015, 01:03 PM
 
Has someone told him about Head & Shoulders?
     
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Oct 15, 2015, 01:25 PM
 
H&S is too bourgeois for Bernie.
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Oct 15, 2015, 02:10 PM
 
He seems like the Dr. Bronner's type.
     
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Oct 15, 2015, 08:05 PM
 
He reminded me of Larry David
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Oct 15, 2015, 10:42 PM
 
It doesn't matter who is elected, it really doesn't. What matters is that the population decides on a witch hunt to rid our political system of corrupt monied interests interested in an oligarchy. What Sanders says is right, but he also says that it's not about him, which is also right. It's going to take years, and his election or the election of any one person is not a magic cure all.
     
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Oct 16, 2015, 12:08 AM
 
Originally Posted by The Final Dakar View Post
Ah. With Sanders, I assumed you were referring to delivery, and then inferred that was Biden's problem as well. Which I would classify more as bad ****ing perspective problem. Edit: Old white guy problem too, though.
I'm considering it a package deal. While not all broken in the same way, they're all broken.
     
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Oct 16, 2015, 07:27 AM
 
Bernie V Evita!
     
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Oct 16, 2015, 08:50 AM
 
"She is beautiful and angular." - Dieter

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Oct 16, 2015, 02:51 PM
 
Bernie Sanders has picked up considerable steam among young voters, capturing the support of 54% of those under the age of 30 compared to Clinton's 26%.
*raised eyebrow*
     
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Oct 16, 2015, 03:05 PM
 
If he keeps on, he'll have a lock on the "don't vote" demo.

I keed.
     
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Oct 16, 2015, 03:25 PM
 
My raised eyebrow was that I didn't know communism had taken root in the latest generation.

Your 'don't vote' joke is, of course, mostly correct.
     
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Oct 19, 2015, 10:31 AM
 
GOOD LORD!! Did anyone hear Hillary's fake southern accent AGAIN! What is wrong with her? Is she completely unable to make a good decision?
     
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Oct 19, 2015, 01:07 PM
 
SNL did a great job of capturing the essence of the debate, Larry David was brilliant as Bernie "We're doomed!!"

this should make everyone laugh:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfmwGAd1L-o
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Oct 19, 2015, 01:09 PM
 
Originally Posted by BadKosh View Post
GOOD LORD!! Did anyone hear Hillary's fake southern accent AGAIN! What is wrong with her? Is she completely unable to make a good decision?
lol you should watch the SNL skit
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Oct 19, 2015, 01:12 PM
 
I didn't see the comparison to David when people mentioned it, but now that SNL got David to do, spot-on.
     
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Oct 19, 2015, 01:41 PM
 
I've been hoping for a while that Larry David would do a Bernie impression - it is indeed spot on.
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Oct 20, 2015, 10:48 AM
 
Supposedly considering going independent, which makes a hell of a lot more sense than being a D.

Edit: That said, he's at 1%. Take the L.
     
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Oct 20, 2015, 03:01 PM
 
The conservative base of the modern day GOP would consider a Southern Blue Dog like Webb to be a RINO if he were member of the party. He's way too far to the right to appeal the urban and suburban voters of the DEM base. So what does he actually hope to accomplish with an independent bid?

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Oct 20, 2015, 03:15 PM
 
He doesn't realize he's out of touch. That or he overestimates the size of the middle.
     
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Oct 22, 2015, 08:57 AM
 
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Oct 22, 2015, 11:54 AM
 
and people were pissed when they found out Obama wasn't going to give them more free shit, you can imagine the backlash on poor Bernie if he gets elected.
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Oct 23, 2015, 04:11 PM
 
He might have one of the most bizarre answers I've ever seen in a debate. ("Why did you vote for the Patriot Act?" "Well I was new in Congress and my dad just died.")
Never mind that he's been pretty much every political party possible. Not sure why he ran.
     
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Oct 23, 2015, 04:13 PM
 
Yeah when he said that line the first thing out of my mouth was "Stick a fork in him ... he's done!" LOL

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Oct 23, 2015, 04:15 PM
 
Oh, and this brings forth one of the more surreal moments for me regarding the Dem debates. Watching S3 of House of Cards this year I scoffed when they had only three candidates for their debate, but nodded that it was both a budgetary and story limitation.


...and yet here we are, two months out from the first primary and we're down to three candidates with the possibility of another dropping out yet.
     
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Oct 27, 2015, 01:52 PM
 
It would appear Bernie's path to the nomination just go considerably more difficult.

Hillary Clinton has 41-point lead in Iowa, poll shows - POLITICO

Especially with his most natural ally in the Senate doing this ....

Sherrod Brown endorses Hillary Clinton - POLITICO

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Nov 8, 2015, 04:59 PM
 
Contains underpants.

Bernie's Briefs
     
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Nov 8, 2015, 10:35 PM
 
Originally Posted by andi*pandi View Post
I didn't see it either, but have seen lots of proBernie links. Notably, he said America is sick of hearing about Clinton's emails.
Sanders is the Democratic version of Ron (≠ Rand) Paul: he has no support with the party establishment, and is marginalized by the Democratic Party's power brokers and the media to some degree. I think large swaths of the public see Hillary Clinton's win of the nomination as a forgone conclusion.

(On the Republican side, there is no “Hillary candidate” because the party is much more divided. Otherwise there'd be no way that the two leading the polls would be Donald Trump and Ben Carson. It's a different type of sad.)
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Nov 9, 2015, 05:44 PM
 
Les see how the FBI figures in all this.
     
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Let's kick off the festivities.

     
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Down. Goes. O'Malley.
     
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Feb 1, 2016, 11:32 PM
 
Even if Billary wins, she loses by not stomping Bernie.
     
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Feb 2, 2016, 12:08 AM
 
Yeah... crazy tight. It's been a three delegate split for the last 20 minutes.
     
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The Democrats are really fired up for this election! Incredible turnout! Martin O'Malley has 8 (count 'em, EIGHT) votes! Definitely exceeding expectations on all fronts.
     
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I hear even Bernie people claim this is less fraud and more a situation of people not knowing what they're doing, and a system which scales very poorly.
     
 
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