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Cowdog · Apr 9, 2001, 08:39 PM

I had a couple kernal panics in the PB but so far I've been running OS X pretty much as my main OS since the 24th, (well actually before then because I installed 4k78 several days earlier and never bothered to reinstall when I got my retail) and have yet to expeirence another KP.

I've read several posts of people complaining about panics, how about hearing from some people who haven't gotten any?

EmAn · Apr 9, 2001, 09:14 PM

I've been using OS X as my main OS since the 24th and haven't had one yet.

Thunderbird · Apr 9, 2001, 10:17 PM

Yep, you can put me in the affirmative column. I had a KP on my second day of using OS X. Haven't had one since then.

SpiffyGuyC · Apr 9, 2001, 10:22 PM

Not a single panic on the PB or any build since :-)
Pismo 500/256/12G

-S

tadd · Apr 9, 2001, 10:38 PM

I've had several. All were shortly after starting up from "SLEEP" on an iMac while sharing and other services were turned on. I haven't had any panics during boring normal operation. I've had the GUI freeze up on me. I put TelNet on one of the other computers so if that happens I can telnet into my OS X computer, become root, and issue a "reboot" command. That ability to telnet in from another machine is quite nice.

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tadd · Apr 9, 2001, 10:40 PM

I've had several. All were shortly after starting up from "SLEEP" on an iMac while sharing and other services were turned on. I haven't had any panics during boring normal operation. I've had the GUI freeze up on me. I put TelNet on one of the other computers so if that happens I can telnet into my OS X computer, become root, and issue a "reboot" command. That ability to telnet in from another machine is quite nice.

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MacmanX · Apr 9, 2001, 11:06 PM

I have not experienced any kernel panics on my iMac (400DV 192MB). I'm actually surprised. I've really been punishing the system as I try to learn the "new" C language for OSX. I've only booted into 9.1 twice, once to test that I actually could, and once to update the firmware. From my experience, OSX is as solid as a rock!

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altoid · Apr 9, 2001, 11:12 PM

yeah, I've had 2. One that happened when I tried using the systems disk pref. and the 2nd time when I tried to repeat it. I think the problem had come up w/ others, but it hasn't happed since (a week) so I haven't worried about it.

I've had Classic crash out a few times "cleanly" and a couple times that forced me to reboot - once had something to do w/ Classic not giving up the screen. All classic apps were frozen and if I put an OS X window behind any of the classic windows, it woud get "stuck" behind the classic app's window - OSX could not draw over the Classic windows. So even tho the finder was the "front" application I could not see everything, nor select a window's drag strip if it was concealed by classic windows.

Other than that it's not had trouble. Could use some speed.

DV · Apr 9, 2001, 11:26 PM

None here.

I've been using it since the 22nd (Staples), at least once a day to mess around in Terminal.app and Project Builder and Classic apps that work, and haven't had one (I'm glad).

I've had a couple problems with opening Finale 2000 in Classic which caused OS X to be unresponsive (had to restart), but that was an extension problem that got fixed with an update, and also after I installed more RAM, my keyboard (and mouse) wouldn't respond, forcing me to hit the reset button, but that doesn't count because it was my USB hub's fault, I think. Is there a keystroke for restart?

OS X has lived up to its stability claims here.

Dallas

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NDBounce · Apr 9, 2001, 11:38 PM

I haven't had any yet. I'm using an iBook Rev A, 288MB RAM, 12GB HD with airport on a PC network.

BUT, all I really use are MS Word, IE, OmniWeb and Mail.

I do have a quick question though - is a KP synonymous with freeze. I don't believe they are the exact same thing, so could someone tell me what happens during a KP.

bemayo · Apr 9, 2001, 11:39 PM

More than I count. Of course, I do have a dual processor G4 and i connect to the internet via modem, and most of us with that configuration are having the same problem. All I have to do is dial up the internet, fire up any TCP/IP app, and wait 10 minutes.

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Calli46 · Apr 9, 2001, 11:42 PM

A "carnal" panic ? What's for a bird ? Oh I see : a KERNEL panic... Not a single one for the 2 weeks I've got X installed on my G4. I had a few crashes from OmniWeb mostly, but nothing needing an OS restart. That's a real blessing !!! Long live to the Xing.

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rgoer · Apr 10, 2001, 12:53 AM

nope. Blue & White G3 400, 192 phys. ram, Ethernet (T1) internet. Been running without crash or even reboot for nigh on a week.

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SillyMonk · Apr 10, 2001, 01:03 AM

One.

Plugged a Keyspan USB to Serial adapter and Palm cradle in without installing any drivers. Gave me a panic.

thanks
john

JBL · Apr 10, 2001, 01:38 AM

I had one when I booted off the install disk when I first installed it.

Since I got it installed (March 24) I have had no problems (although I had about 4 with the Public Beta, so this is definitely an improvement for me).

G4 DP 450, on a LAN

Noxious · Apr 10, 2001, 01:38 AM

I've have a few myself, but none in the last couple days.(Knock on wood)
I hope they stay away, 'cause they cause problems with the system afterwards.

brown monk · Apr 10, 2001, 03:34 AM

Since I installed the final I have not experienced a kernal panic. I do
know what they look like though (this thanks to the PB...I had it
around the 22nd or March).

I am running X on a GB DP G4 450 with 384MB RAM.

chrisford · Apr 10, 2001, 04:52 AM

probably about 12-15 kernel panics...

but then i'm on a 450dp using dialup.

still waiting for the fix.

chrisford

dillerX · Apr 10, 2001, 06:11 AM

none none none

Had ten since the 24th, *knock on monitor*

mossking · Apr 10, 2001, 11:20 AM

2 for me. Both while trying to import my outlook express mailbox over a network.

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Fat_Lenny · Apr 10, 2001, 12:20 PM

I've had one kernel panic, when my mounted idisk crashed and I tried to use OSX's wonderful multitasking to shut it down.

ON another note, how many more times is Apple going to "lie" about their official update? First I heard the end of two weeks, then the end of last week, then I heard today (Tuesday). I hate rumors.

dmcknigh · Apr 10, 2001, 04:53 PM

I've had a couple on both my OSX machines so far. The most recent one turned all my icons into folders. Hopefully the fix in the TIL will work. I guess I'll find out after work.

Cotton · Apr 10, 2001, 05:46 PM

I've had a couple, but none on GM. I think one in PB, and at least one other in one of the earlier 4k builds. But hey, that's to be expected, right?

4k78 has been great to me so far... ::knocks on wood::

Apr 10, 2001, 06:04 PM

I had my first kernel panic yesterday. One panic in 2 1/2 weeks is not too shabby, compared to all the rebooting I had to do in 9 due to crashes and freezes.

velocity70 · Apr 10, 2001, 06:17 PM

Not even one. In fact, I never had one in the PB either!

Vel
TiBook 400 256MB

velocity70 · Apr 10, 2001, 06:18 PM

Not even one. In fact, I never had one in the PB either!

Vel
TiBook 400 256MB

Apr 10, 2001, 09:34 PM

I've had six, IIRC. (my list is at home) At least two were on cold boots. This is on a vanilla g3/400 BW, 448MB RAM, X has its own clean partition.

And there've been tons of bombs and freezes and such. Some, the OS has dealt with, though the system was effectively unusable (e.g. Omniweb becomes incapable of loading a page w/o bombing) many required a real restart though.

In comparison the same box running MacOS 9 never goes down, and the Win2K box next to it hasn't crashed in the month it's been running. All are used for light web surfing, mp3s, etc. But I wouldn't dare try OS X at work.

snodman · Apr 10, 2001, 10:48 PM

I had them on startup beginning with the first reboot after installation of OS X final on a wiped drive, but they were due to my (unsupported till they finally write some #$^%@! drivers) Adaptec 2906 card. Had to pull the card completely to get them to finally never appear. I'd get a panic about once in three boots with the card in (it worked fine in 9.1 but of course not at all in Classic or X). Al least they went away untill I REALLY tried to get my (unsupported till they write some #$^@! drivers) Castlewood internal IDE Orb drive to work. Unfortunately OS X actually sees the drive and if you reformat the media with the new Drive Setup formatter it will indeed mount under OS X. I say unfortunately not because of any data loss or lack of speed - that works fine. However OS X does not actually know it is a removable drive and the eject command only unmounts the media. The disk stays stuck in the drive and the eject key does not release it. You can shut down and eject it on reboot, but now if I EVER take the media out of the ORB drive and reboot into OS X WITHOUT it inserted I get a kernel panic. So now I have three hard drives showing up on my desktop (like papa bear, moma bear and baby bear).

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mrchin · Apr 10, 2001, 11:01 PM

I don't think so. Does something display "Kernal Panic" anywhere? If so, then I haven't seen one. Unless it's just a total lock up of the machine.

G4 Dual 450

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snodman · Apr 10, 2001, 11:03 PM

Oh, you won't miss it when it happens. The first time I saw one on my little G4 I knew I was not in Kansas anymore......

snodman · Apr 10, 2001, 11:08 PM

What actually happens is this god-awful DOS retro thing takes over your screen and writes line after line of techno-text across it (complete with hex addresses and other geek incantations). The scary part is that by now I think I can actually begin to decypher the meaning of some of what shows up......

nigeljedi · Apr 10, 2001, 11:36 PM

...been using it 50/50 since March 26th, and haven't had one kernel panic. Oh goody.

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zythemac · Apr 10, 2001, 11:56 PM

I've had a few, which I found odd being I didn't have any in PB and had it running since day 1.

mike one · Apr 11, 2001, 12:07 AM

1 panic, copying files to my rio 500 from itunes.
i was doing something else wacky at the time, don't recall.
no big deal, since it only happened once.

man i can launch every app i have on OSX, at the same time and no panics, no out of memory crap-o-la either. *is loving os X*

otter · Apr 11, 2001, 12:28 AM

One panic almost two weeks ago -- downloading from iDisk, connection dropped, tried to start up connection while iDisk was still spinning -- meltdown.

Art

otter · Apr 11, 2001, 12:30 AM

posta dos

Art

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Cipher13 · Apr 11, 2001, 03:36 AM

Yep, one panic. And I barely use OSX.

It happened when I clicked the minimise window. Friggin' genie.

It said something about com.apple.rage128 or something.

Does that mean there is 2D accel involved? It was calling the graphics card or something... but that could be just drawing it... ah well.
Its gone now. OSX, that is

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bateman · Apr 11, 2001, 04:19 AM

no Kernel Panic under os 10 since i got CD's of it.

os 10 is great great great.

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johnnylundy · Apr 11, 2001, 04:38 AM

Originally posted by bateman:
no Kernel Panic under os 10 since i got CD's of it.

os 10 is great great great.

I would gladly have 3 kernal panics per day in exchange for HOSING QUARTZ.

bateman · Apr 11, 2001, 05:07 AM

just wait one week, or one month.

1. the updates will improve the stuff.
2. if it's still unusable (?), someone will do a little soft, this soft will allowed you to disable the aqua's stuff you don't like, you find "heavy".

pardon my english..

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JeremyS · Apr 11, 2001, 03:33 PM

nope never with OS X Retail, I have only ever seen one when my friend got a copy of one of those Hotline Warez servers. It would always give a Kernal panic right before install.

Bogie · Apr 11, 2001, 03:35 PM

Yes, I get a recreatable panic when I am navigating through various levels of a mounted iDisk. No idea why unless it has something to do with my network, which it may. I have seen the same problem on other OS X Macs on this LAN but have not heard of it anywhere else.

Cowdog · Apr 11, 2001, 10:43 PM

Originally posted by bateman:
2. if it's still unusable (?), someone will do a little soft, this soft will allowed you to disable the aqua's stuff you don't like, you find "heavy".

I don't get this "unusable" stuff.. I'm pretty much on OS X 24 x 7 now and don't see how I can be getting any work (photoshop, flash, bbedit, illustrator...) done if the OS is "unusable"

Not like I'm on a top of the line machine (anyone) either, 4L7, B&W G3 350, 320 ram, rage128, and I don't find it slow. Contextual menus on the dock used to take a bit to show up on long lists but I think I've broken the system in now because even those delys are very minimal (3 seconds with 120 item folder).. Anyways whatever, maybe its all in the setup..

smileyq · Apr 11, 2001, 10:48 PM

I've been using OS X on three computers since the 24th. PowerMac G4 Tower,ibook(firewire),G4 Cube, and I've yet to have a single kernel panic on any system. I'm very happy with this OS. I may be biased because I'm a UNIX nut but hey.. Its great stuff. One thing I've learned with OS X. The more RAM you can afford the better.

nking · Apr 12, 2001, 02:26 AM

Loads here. Every time I connect to the internet.

But I've got a dual G4, and I'm using dialup ppp.

Nick

mudzilla · Apr 12, 2001, 06:54 AM

none on my iBook...
BUT
everytime on my iMac (rev a, 160MB, 20GB)

panics on the smiley face EVERYSINGLEDAMNTIME.
so it's not even been used on the iMac.

:/

bateman · Apr 12, 2001, 09:05 AM

got one Kernel PANIC on startup yesterday. my first one.
on the blue screen, quite ugly.

then a reboot by pressing the reset button.

then a great OS.

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Cipher13 · Apr 12, 2001, 09:59 AM

This kind of inconsistency isn't acceptable.

Apple stepped into a deep pool this time, and is drowning its users - a commercial UNIX aimed at newbies?

What were they thinking?

What happens when someone who's just gotten a flower power iMac cause it looks pretty gets a kernel panic?

Damn, Apple have a hell of a lot of work to do before MWNY...

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happypork · Apr 12, 2001, 12:59 PM

I've had three kernel panics on my Rev. A iBook. They've all happened after:

1.) The system is at the login screen
2.) I close the case, putting it into "deep" sleep (i.e. the green light pulses)
3.) I reopen the case.

Boom. Kernel panic. It doesn't happen every time, but it's not pretty when it does.

Bogie · Apr 12, 2001, 01:13 PM

I think Apple was thinking that they had the best around . . . . imagine that, they're right.