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Originally Posted by TETENAL 

Apple - Mac OS X Leopard - Features - Safari

Good for Safari proper. Hey, SAFT is updated for Safari 3. The world is the right side up again

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Originally Posted by EndlessMac 

I like Firefox and Camino 1.5 because they have features I like already built in so I don't have to find any plugins. From my experience browsers are more stable when the features you want are already built in and officially supported. If Safari had these features built in then I probably would use it more.

Examples please.

What does Firefox or Camino offer by default that Safari doesn't offer by default?

I've used both with plug-ins for so long that I can't remember, so this is a genuine question.

[moonmonkey]

safariblock works fine for blocking ads.
SafariBlock 1.15 - MacUpdate

People are reporting it as not working but if you install it with 2.0 and upgrade it works fine.

[EndlessMac]

Originally Posted by - - e r i k - - 

Examples please.

What does Firefox or Camino offer by default that Safari doesn't offer by default?

I've used both with plug-ins for so long that I can't remember, so this is a genuine question.

These are just features I like so it doesn't necessarily mean that everyone will find them useful but I use them pretty often. Many of them are simple things but they are useful to me and I rather not live without them. My comparisons are based on Firefox 2.0.0.4, Camino 1.5, and Safari 2.0.4

1. Firefox & Camino allows me to choose where to save my image files every time and not just save everything to the same folder like Safari does. This allows me to organize my files right away instead of having to do it later like Safari.

2. Firefox has a the right-click "properties" info feature

3. Firefox allows me to block annoying images from a website. This is very useful for people who use annoying animated avatars on forums. Camino solves this problem in a different way by having the feature to only allow animation to loop only once and then stop. I prefer Camino's way better. Opera does it even better by allowing users to quickly turn off and on animations whenever you like.

4. Camino not only blocks pop-ups but it can also block annoying flash ads.

5. Firefox allows me to keep cookies until they expire or every time I close Firefox. I actually like Mozilla's feature of letting the users define how long each cookie should last if they aren't used, but at least Firefox allows me to automate cookie deletion rather than manually like Safari. Firefox also allows me to clear all private data automatically when I close it.


Those are the features I can think of at this moment. I might leaving out some.

[besson3c]

Originally Posted by - - e r i k - - 

Examples please.

What does Firefox or Camino offer by default that Safari doesn't offer by default?

I've used both with plug-ins for so long that I can't remember, so this is a genuine question.

Firefox offers the following:

- session manager that recovers open pages after a crash
- pop-up blocker exceptions
- phishing site alerts
- multiple RSS feed readers
- choice of search engines to search with
- you can move away from a page, return to it and it will remember your form inputs (don't think Safari does this)
- more browser import options

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Safari remembers form inputs when you go back to the page. I'll give you the rest even if they aren't all applicable to be (I'm happy with the RSS feeds in Safari, and I don't need to import bookmarks from Mosaic )

[besson3c]

Originally Posted by - - e r i k - - 

Safari remembers form inputs when you go back to the page. I'll give you the rest even if they aren't all applicable to be (I'm happy with the RSS feeds in Safari, and I don't need to import bookmarks from Mosaic )

It's not just bookmarks, but prefs, history, passwords, cookies, etc. I'm happy with the RSS reader built into Thunderbird, but some people are into Google and Yahoo RSS.

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Fortunately I switched from Camino (I believe it had just changed names at the time) to Safari just as it was released, so I did not really have much invested in other browsers that I needed pulled over back then. I was constantly going between browsers back then so everything was in a state of flux.

RSS seems to be a matter of preference from person to person. Some (like me) like to have it in a browser due to it not being different from web content enough to be separate, others seems prefer a third party specialised solution.

[besson3c]

Another native feature of Firefox: it renders CSS attributes in forms, which is important for me as a web developer working on my CMS