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I know this is completely pointless, but what I call a conspiracy theory is something that might be true, but is not known to be true by expert consensus, and sometimes disputes conventional wisdom.
It is totally possible that Hillary lies about all sorts of things, including her email server, Benghazi, whatever else. I wouldn't even be surprised if this was discovered to be, in fact, true.
But we don't KNOW these things to be true or false. The point is, people like yourself have clung to these conspiracy theories to the point where it has completely overshadowed things that we know to be true about Hillary Clinton. For example, we know she voted for the Iraq war. I've heard your crazy conspiracy theories about her health far more than stuff about her Iraq war vote.
Why do you cling to things that might be true? And, if you really insist on clinging to these conspiracy theories, why don't you cite evidence for them using sources like Politifact? We can dispute the accuracy or bias of Politifact, but at least it's something. It's far better than your random link dumps and sharing of your emotions (while labeling them as objective and your opposition as irrational and emotional, I might add).
The FBI will investigate whether additional classified material is contained in emails sent using Hillary Clinton’s private email server while she was secretary of state, FBI Director James Comey informed congressional leaders Friday.
The announcement appears to restart the FBI’s probe of Clinton’s server, less than two weeks before the presidential election, an explosive development that could shape the campaign’s final days.
In a letter to congressional leaders, Comey said that the FBI had, in connection with an “unrelated case,” recently “learned of the existence of emails that appear to be pertinent to the Clinton investigation.”
I know this is completely pointless, but what I call a conspiracy theory is something that might be true, but is not known to be true by expert consensus, and sometimes disputes conventional wisdom.
It is totally possible that Hillary lies about all sorts of things, including her email server, Benghazi, whatever else. I wouldn't even be surprised if this was discovered to be, in fact, true.
But we don't KNOW these things to be true or false. The point is, people like yourself have clung to these conspiracy theories to the point where it has completely overshadowed things that we know to be true about Hillary Clinton. For example, we know she voted for the Iraq war. I've heard your crazy conspiracy theories about her health far more than stuff about her Iraq war vote.
Why do you cling to things that might be true? And, if you really insist on clinging to these conspiracy theories, why don't you cite evidence for them using sources like Politifact? We can dispute the accuracy or bias of Politifact, but at least it's something. It's far better than your random link dumps and sharing of your emotions (while labeling them as objective and your opposition as irrational and emotional, I might add).
Being I work in DC as a fed contractor in IT, I hear stuff from others I've worked with in the past. So don't tell me what is going on. Your beliefs are not facts.
I would say it's been replaced with identity politics, which have pretty much taken over mainstream discourse of late.
Originally Posted by Laminar
^^ Exhibit A
Originally Posted by Laminar
^^ Exhibit B
I'm certain if it weren't for memes, you wouldn't be able to communicate at all.
"I have a dream, that my four little children will one day live in a
nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin,
but by the content of their character." - M.L.King Jr
Its great to see the MSM and the Democrats flapping in the wind since they stupidly nominated a criminal. I guess foresight isn't a trait they have. Maybe its just that tricky right vs wrong thing?
I just read that the FBI haven't even read these new emails. They don't have a warrant yet.
According to the WSJ story, they do now.
Officials had to await a court order to begin reviewing the emails—which they received over the weekend, according to a person familiar with the matter—because they were uncovered in an unrelated probe of Mr. Weiner.
SOOOOOOOO...... A bunch of emails NOT deleted may just give info on the emails Hillary & Co. deleted.. Destruction of evidence. MORE hideous decision making by Hillary coming back to haunt her. GOOD! How many times in a row can Hillary make horrid judgements and decisions before the masses get it? Her supporters will never get it.
SOOOOOOOO...... A bunch of emails NOT deleted may just give info on the emails Hillary & Co. deleted.. Destruction of evidence. MORE hideous decision making by Hillary coming back to haunt her. GOOD! How many times in a row can Hillary make horrid judgements and decisions before the masses get it? Her supporters will never get it.
Word is the emails were in a folder named "insurance".
Now she'll hopefully be indicted and charged. It's about time, isn't it?
"I have a dream, that my four little children will one day live in a
nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin,
but by the content of their character." - M.L.King Jr
The MSM look like deer in the headlights. Bwa-haa-haa. Can't wait for Chrissy Matthews so I can hear him. Trump will need to build a Clinton chronie prison before he starts on that wall.
Now she'll hopefully be indicted and charged. It's about time, isn't it?
Why hopefully? If the FBI found her innocent and this were reversed this would tell us that institutions like the FBI are partisan and corrupt, which is a terrifying concept. There is no "hopefully" here, and I'm not saying this because of empathy towards Clinton or wanting her to be unscathed.
Perhaps you didn't realize her 'getting off' was to make sure she wasn't charged with anything that Obama could pardon? You don't see the politics involved with the AG, DoJ and Clintons?
Why hopefully? If the FBI found her innocent and this were reversed this would tell us that institutions like the FBI are partisan and corrupt, which is a terrifying concept. There is no "hopefully" here, and I'm not saying this because of empathy towards Clinton or wanting her to be unscathed.
Found innocent? He said he wouldn't recommend charges. He did not say she was innocent. Comey listed a litany of violations she had committed, then punted. My wife worked for Motorola's Government Electronic Group. (now General Dynamics) Had she had one work related email on our computer at home, she would been locked up, let alone been fired. She once told general he had to leave her work area because he was unescorted and wasn't wearing an ID badge.
Why hopefully? If the FBI found her innocent and this were reversed this would tell us that institutions like the FBI are partisan and corrupt, which is a terrifying concept. There is no "hopefully" here, and I'm not saying this because of empathy towards Clinton or wanting her to be unscathed.
No one was "found innocent", what are you talking about?
"I have a dream, that my four little children will one day live in a
nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin,
but by the content of their character." - M.L.King Jr
We need not skewer her over her past crimes if our aim is to clean up Washington. Stripping her of clearance and removing the insider positions she leveraged in her dealings is enough. We as a country have many wounds we must start healing...socially, economically, and on the world stage. We ought to focus our attention and our energies on those.
We need not skewer her over her past crimes if our aim is to clean up Washington. Stripping her of clearance and removing the insider positions she leveraged in her dealings is enough. We as a country have many wounds we must start healing...socially, economically, and on the world stage. We ought to focus our attention and our energies on those.
I agree, and I actually had a somewhat related mini-epiphany this election too relating to WI, MI, and PA. Clearly these states were attracted towards Trump's rhetoric about trade, jobs, and immigration. These states have been suffering from the manufacturing being stripped away, all you need to do is drive through them to see some of this.
These states have also been blue going back at least as far as 2000. Typically the Democrats have done well with middle class pandering. So, what happened this time? My theory is that hearing Trump talk about China, trade deals, Obamacare, etc. was music to their angry ears, so they went for this desperation vote, if you will. It is perfectly logical and understandable.
The fallacy with their thinking, IMO, is thinking that any one politician can restore these jobs, these jobs are probably gone for good, but the epiphany I had was in the missing empathy many feel towards these people and their situations. I mean, surely the bulk of them had misgivings about Trump's character, but at the end of the day we vote for our self-interests. What do we do about all of these misplaced jobs and outdated skills? Even if we bring back these jobs, there are many Americans that count on being able to buy cheap Chinese shit from Walmart.
I personally think we replace these jobs, but this requires a lot of patience, retraining, and focus which is really hard to sustain. This country desperately needs to figure out what to do about these states though. I think many people blew off the problems in red America because in the past it was largely the deep south (and some very small western states), which have clear cultural differences. We sort of considered them in their own category. But now that the rust/steel belt is part of this constituency, this really just leaves the cities where the Democrats do well.
The big cities are obviously where the wealth is and where most people want to be if they have lofty professional aspirations, but we can't just pretend that the rest of America doesn't exist.
The reason those jobs disappeared is because American manufacturing isn't competitive with Mexican or Chinese manufacturing. If Mexican and Chinese products are taxed and tariffed, those jobs will come back.
The question isn't whether he's in a position to bring those jobs back, the question is if he has the political will to do it.
Again, I think that would be a mistake, but the goal is achievable.
The reason those jobs disappeared is because American manufacturing isn't competitive with Mexican or Chinese manufacturing. If Mexican and Chinese products are taxed and tariffed, those jobs will come back.
The question isn't whether he's in a position to bring those jobs back, the question is if he has the political will to do it.
Again, I think that would be a mistake, but the goal is achievable.
At the cost of people being able to buy cheap stuff at Walmart and Target.
It still might be worth doing, but it definitely will garner some critics.
The same people who are complaining where their jobs went are the same people who shop at Walmart. Again with the logic error. Remind you all that Walmart got caught putting fake "Made in the USA" labels on things.
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I'm not knocking working at Walmart, but shopping. Walmart has cheap stuff made in China etc. If you want jobs in America, support American businesses, and businesses that shop local. Not pretend to shop local. Just because something has an american flag stitched on it does not mean it was made in America.
The same people who are complaining where their jobs went are the same people who shop at Walmart. Again with the logic error. Remind you all that Walmart got caught putting fake "Made in the USA" labels on things.
If the buying power of your wages keeps falling, do you have a choice?
So the Hillary supporters are having a major TEMPER TANTRUM.
Riots? Seriously?
What do they hope to accomplish except ruining other peoples stuff and hurting others.
What a bunch of immature snowflakes. Especially the college students to distraught to go to their mid-term exams.
They are hiding in their safe spaces and away from scary WORDS.
The protestors are paid by George Soros, and those protestors are the most stupid of all her supporters.
Democrats showing the world how pathetic you are.
It's not just WORDS they are protesting. This election has validated the racists and misogynists. People are in fear for their lives, their loved ones.
The MSM has been the race baiters and have been the ones stirring that up. Part of the pre-election smear. Just because idiot snowflakes and redneck assholes are caught up in this too isn't a reason to tar everyone.
The bigoted bullshit from the opposing side started before any smugness had a chance to set in (ex. Laci Green's meltdown on Twitter), Hillary leading the way by saying "we're not giving up", then waiting until noon the next day to concede. Trump was 10x more gracious than I ever expected, even extending a yuuge olive branch, yet that doesn't seem to matter. These bullying tactics won't work against the Feds, unlike how they're able to push their college administrators around. They aren't getting the presidency, but if this keeps up they WILL get water cannons and rubber bullets instead.
"I have a dream, that my four little children will one day live in a
nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin,
but by the content of their character." - M.L.King Jr
^^ They don't care about Bernie getting railroaded or being used by the cultural elite, like Soros and 99% of Hollywood. They'd much rather continue with power being in the hands of the people who have used and abused them for decades, the people who whore themselves out to the worst govt's on Earth for a few million $, places where; slavery is still legal, women have no rights (and no clitoris), and being gay is an automatic death sentence. What great "allies".
"I have a dream, that my four little children will one day live in a
nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin,
but by the content of their character." - M.L.King Jr
Its been nice around here the last few days. Why don't you crawl back in your hole?
Because it upsets you, and the more you complain the happier I'll be. I went on vacation with the family before this shit hit the fan, but now that I'm revitalized I can give you sweet people my attention. Enjoy. I can't imagine the "hole" you live in, given your salty, nasty disposition, but I'm sure it looks like this:
Originally Posted by Laminar
That sounds like heaven for a Trump supporter.
Or a Hillary supporter, since that's where she trolls for funding for her "charity". Derp.
"I have a dream, that my four little children will one day live in a
nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin,
but by the content of their character." - M.L.King Jr
It seems the Hillary supporter are acting far worse that even they thought. Immature buffoons throwing a temper tantrum. Obviously they are too stupid to think out what they are doing, protesting AFTER Hillary conceded. Its OVER. Shut up , go sit in the back of the room. Remember that from 2009? Sore Loserman. Remember that from 2000? That track record on immaturity and emotion driven BS???
I love how SJWs laugh at others who demand 1A rights, but then suddenly remember how important they are when they want to throw a hissy over not getting their way. They want to bitch and moan, carry signs, and even shit in public, fine (though the last one is gross). Start violence, burn property, and willfully tread upon the rights of others, however, and you've earned the tear gas, rubber bullets, and jail time.
Shit in public? Yeah, that's a thing, unfortunately.
"I have a dream, that my four little children will one day live in a
nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin,
but by the content of their character." - M.L.King Jr
I can't imagine the "hole" you live in, given your salty, nasty disposition, but I'm sure it looks like this:
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