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hyteckit · Apr 25, 2002, 01:23 PM

Okay, this is odd. I got my url working too. However clicking next doesn't work for me. The chasing arrows spins forever and the page never loads.

jason75 · Apr 25, 2002, 01:46 PM

Originally posted by <hyteckit>:

Anyway, one feature that I would like to be added to OmniWeb is the ability to jump right to the item in a list menu by typing the letters out. This feature is available in IE. Take for instance you have a list menu of states. So instead of scrolling down to find California, I can just type "c" and it'll jump right to it. Very handle with a long list.

Works fine for me. I live in Arizona, so I have to type 'ari' to get through all the other 'A' states. It handles that fine.

hyteckit · Apr 25, 2002, 06:33 PM

Nope, doesn't work for me. All it does is change my URL in the location bar. I'm using the latest OmniWeb sp74.

jason75 · Apr 25, 2002, 06:43 PM

I forgot. Do you have "Full Keyboard Access" turned on in System Preferences? It relies on that to be able to select a popup list.

Apr 25, 2002, 07:34 PM

can someone possibly remind me of the sneakypeek download link?

THe b4 wont tell me about sneaklypeek releases on auto checking for updates

thanks

Callum

jason75 · Apr 25, 2002, 07:54 PM

http://www.omnigroup.com/ftp/pub/sof...X/.sneakypeek/

Sharky K. · Apr 26, 2002, 01:45 AM

beta 5 is just released

edit: they skipped build 390

[ 04-26-2002: Message edited by: Sharky K. ]

cpac · Apr 26, 2002, 02:48 AM

Originally posted by Sharky K.:
beta 5 is just released

edit: they skipped build 390

[ 04-26-2002: Message edited by: Sharky K. ]

ack - I'm finding b5 to be extremely unstable - 10 crashes in as many launches in the last 10 minutes. I'm even having to type this in IE.

I re-imported my bookmarks in case that was it - anybody else getting this problem?

EDIT - I deleted all my history files and that seems to have stopped the crashing (yay!)

[ 04-26-2002: Message edited by: cpac ]

davidb224 · Apr 26, 2002, 10:39 PM

Originally posted by cpac:
I'm finding b5 to be extremely unstable - 10 crashes in as many launches in the last 10 minutes

I'm having good luck with b5 and it hasn't crashed on me even once...so far.

It seems quick at rendering the web-pages I frequent.

cpac · Apr 26, 2002, 11:25 PM

Originally posted by davidb224:


I'm having good luck with b5 and it hasn't crashed on me even once...so far.

It seems quick at rendering the web-pages I frequent.

Aye, not a single crash since i trashed the history files.

Calli46 · Apr 27, 2002, 09:03 AM

4.1 beta 5 feels much faster on my 500/DP than any previous sp releases. Scrolling is lightning quick and pages draw almost instantly. Besides being snappy, OW 4.1b5 seems very stable. A joy to use!

I guess 4.1 official release is not far around the corner.

Krypton · Apr 27, 2002, 10:00 AM

Originally posted by Calli46:
A joy to use!

Well, apart from pulsating form buttons turning black

But yes, now that tables render quickly and without jumping around the page I'm glad I paid for a license.

Montanan · Apr 27, 2002, 04:05 PM

I've been having an increasingly-frequent problem lately. Every once in a while, OW will only partially load a page, and then somehow decide that it's done. The word "Loading" will disappear from the title bar, and I'll be left with either a partially-rendered page or a completely blank one. Hitting "reload" always fixes the problem.

This happens randomly, without apparent regard to the type of page being loaded. It occurs on beta 5, and happened on the last few SPs, as well. Anyone know what's going on?

KidRed · Apr 27, 2002, 07:11 PM

Beta 5 is the first version that hasn't crashed an hour after use. Acutally, I've been using it for what 2 days now with no crash while IE hangs on MacNN (OW won't load all the images sometimes tho) and crashes ever so often. Seems like the IE updates have made it unstable. Looks like OW is about to become my default browser.

zengravy · Apr 28, 2002, 11:05 AM

b5 has only crashed once for me so far. i had several windows open at once, which always causes OW to run a bit sluggishly and misbehave.

no frozen, spinning cursor moments yet...

looks like we may be getting close!

jason75 · Apr 28, 2002, 02:27 PM

Originally posted by Krypton:


Well, apart from pulsating form buttons turning black

That was fixed in SP74 IIRC.

starfleetX · Apr 29, 2002, 04:41 AM

:bump: <-- for Gee4orce, to keep this above the now-locked "OmniWeb 4.1b5 is out" thread

Sharky K. · Apr 29, 2002, 04:50 AM

where did all the SneakyPeeks and beta's go? When I go to the download directory there is only a folder "archive"

benh57 · Apr 29, 2002, 05:11 AM

Originally posted by Sharky K.:
where did all the SneakyPeeks and beta's go? When I go to the download directory there is only a folder "archive"

Click it, brainiac.

Sharky K. · Apr 29, 2002, 07:59 AM

Originally posted by benh57:


Click it, brainiac.

duhhh

But why don't they put the last version in the normal directory?

Apr 29, 2002, 08:11 AM

Java does not work at hushmail.com

https://www.hushmail.com/sign_up2/

Java on OS X promised to be second to none. More Apple lies?

ls -al · Apr 29, 2002, 09:20 AM

store.apple.com has stopped working for me. Works fine in IE/Chim/Moz...

cpac · Apr 29, 2002, 10:50 AM

Originally posted by Sharky K.:


duhhh

But why don't they put the last version in the normal directory?

Unless I'm missing something b5 *is* the most recent version. Since it's available on their main OW page, there's no need to post it on the sp page...

Also, the apple store page works just fine for me in b5.

Krypton · Apr 29, 2002, 11:26 AM

Originally posted by jason75:


That was fixed in SP74 IIRC.

Um, nope. Try a page with more than one default button (say you have two search wells) and flip between them - the first one will be fine, but the second will turn black, or just not pulsate.

Jerommeke · Apr 29, 2002, 11:28 AM

Originally posted by Montanan:
I've been having an increasingly-frequent problem lately. Every once in a while, OW will only partially load a page, and then somehow decide that it's done. The word "Loading" will disappear from the title bar, and I'll be left with either a partially-rendered page or a completely blank one. Hitting "reload" always fixes the problem.

This happens randomly, without apparent regard to the type of page being loaded. It occurs on beta 5, and happened on the last few SPs, as well. Anyone know what's going on?

have the same problem too...

is occurring since 4.1b5 and the system is brand new installed

jason75 · Apr 29, 2002, 10:15 PM

Originally posted by Krypton:


Um, nope. Try a page with more than one default button (say you have two search wells) and flip between them - the first one will be fine, but the second will turn black, or just not pulsate.

Ahh. I thought you were referring to this "black" button

not the dark gray button like this

The first one was fixed in SP74.

Sharky K. · Apr 30, 2002, 03:17 AM

Originally posted by cpac:


Unless I'm missing something b5 *is* the most recent version. Since it's available on their main OW page, there's no need to post it on the sp page...

Also, the apple store page works just fine for me in b5.

I know but why did they removed it from the "normal" directory. They did not do that until now.

ratlater · Apr 30, 2002, 05:50 AM

Originally posted by Sharky K.:


I know but why did they removed it from the "normal" directory. They did not do that until now.

I would guess they are getting ready for the final 4.1, or at least release candidates.

-matt

JKT · Apr 30, 2002, 07:52 AM

sp 75 is out - no list of fixes at time of posting.

Seems much like b5 to me so far...

Krypton · Apr 30, 2002, 08:27 AM

Originally posted by jason75:


Ahh. I thought you were referring to this "black" button

not the dark gray button like this

The first one was fixed in SP74.

Ahhhhhh - now we understand each other

Maybe sp 75 fixes this...

Sharky K. · Apr 30, 2002, 09:28 AM

nop, aqua button problem is not fixed in this (75) version.

cpac · Apr 30, 2002, 06:06 PM

release notes for sp75 are now posted - the big news (for those not using speech recognition) seems to be the new stop-loading-old-page-when-link-is-clicked preference that's on by default in sp75.

I don't know about others, but I'm not noticing a huge difference with its presence. (The note says only those on congested networks would benefit - apparently I'm not on one).

Others' experience?

jason75 · May 1, 2002, 03:20 AM

OmniWeb 4.1SP76 is now up.

jason75 · May 1, 2002, 04:06 AM

There is now a newer SP76 up. This one is v.394. The previous one was v.393.

Mrjinglesusa · May 1, 2002, 10:09 AM

Has anyone else noticed that sp76 has lost OmniWeb's dock awareness? All other builds would stop at the dock but this one won't (like MS Explorer). Also, How come every time you click OmniWeb's icon in the dock it opens a NEW window, even if you already have one open? Frustrating.

Krypton · May 1, 2002, 11:27 AM

Originally posted by cpac:
release notes for sp75 are now posted - the big news (for those not using speech recognition) seems to be the new stop-loading-old-page-when-link-is-clicked preference that's on by default in sp75.

I don't know about others, but I'm not noticing a huge difference with its presence. (The note says only those on congested networks would benefit - apparently I'm not on one).

Others' experience?

This is excellent - with graphics intense pages I was always frustrated by the way OmniWeb prioritised the loading of pages.

jason75 · May 1, 2002, 11:49 AM

Originally posted by Mrjinglesusa:
Has anyone else noticed that sp76 has lost OmniWeb's dock awareness? All other builds would stop at the dock but this one won't (like MS Explorer). Also, How come every time you click OmniWeb's icon in the dock it opens a NEW window, even if you already have one open? Frustrating.

Don't see that here on SP76 v394. It's still very dock aware.

JKT · May 1, 2002, 02:26 PM

Is anyone else having problems with inserting "Instant Smilies" or "Instant UBB code" here in sp76 (v394)?

jason75 · May 1, 2002, 02:46 PM

Originally posted by JKT:
Is anyone else having problems with inserting "Instant Smilies" or "Instant UBB code" here in sp76 (v394)?

I did yesterday when i posted that v394 was up, but relaunching OW fixed it.

Edit:
Now, I can't get it to work at all.

[ 05-01-2002: Message edited by: jason75 ]

jason75 · May 1, 2002, 02:56 PM

For those of you who have removed IE from your DefaultHelpApps.plist file, you'll notice that IE is no longer in the default browser popup anymore with SP76.

However, IE still becomes the default if you update OW.

JKT · May 1, 2002, 03:27 PM

I'm noticing other problems with this release (sp76 v394) such as CSS seems to be more broken again (some sites with tables have reverted to variable column widths where they should be all the same - e.g. the MacCentral forums page) and with MacNN, clicking the far right name in the forum index doesn't automatically jump to that message once the thread has loaded - it just stays at the top.

Relaunching hasn't helped.

Mrjinglesusa · May 1, 2002, 03:30 PM

Originally posted by jason75:


Don't see that here on SP76 v394. It's still very dock aware.

I'm running SP76 v394 and it is NOT dock aware. Anyone else have input on this? SP75 and all other previous SP's were dock away but it's gone for me in SP76. Maybe a restart will fix it?

EDIT: Just downloaded SP75 again and confirmed it is dock aware and SP76 v394 isn't.

[ 05-01-2002: Message edited by: Mrjinglesusa ]

davidb224 · May 1, 2002, 04:30 PM

Originally posted by Mrjinglesusa:


I'm running SP76 v394 and it is NOT dock aware. Anyone else have input on this?

I have sp76 and it IS dock aware on my DP G4 running 10.1.4.

Mrjinglesusa · May 1, 2002, 04:40 PM

Originally posted by davidb224:


I have sp76 and it IS dock aware on my DP G4 running 10.1.4.

Weird.

May 1, 2002, 04:49 PM

Originally posted by Mrjinglesusa:


Weird.

You're weird...sp76 *is* dock aware.

I just wish that Apple would do something about vertical-dock-awareness.

I was about to say that all cocoa apps are dock-aware and there's nothing you can do about it...but then I tried TextEdit out of the 10 cocoa apps I use most, the exception to the rule it seems.

Anyhoo...OW is dock-aware.

jason75 · May 1, 2002, 05:31 PM

Originally posted by <Guy Incognito>:


I was about to say that all cocoa apps are dock-aware and there's nothing you can do about it...but then I tried TextEdit out of the 10 cocoa apps I use most, the exception to the rule it seems.

TextEdit is dock aware for me.

May 1, 2002, 05:37 PM

Originally posted by jason75:


TextEdit is dock aware for me.

Hmmm...I swear it wasn't a minute ago...but maybe that was because I had to set my dock position to 'bottom' and the TextEdit window was already under the dock.

CONFIRMED...all cocoa apps are dock-aware, and you can't do anything about it. Therefore OW is dock-aware.

Another funny thing is dragging any cocoa app window's titlebar below the bottom of the screen will push the window back up so that the whole titlebar is least present. Not so with carbon.

jason75 · May 1, 2002, 05:48 PM

Originally posted by <Guy Incognito>:

Another funny thing is dragging any cocoa app window's titlebar below the bottom of the screen will push the window back up so that the whole titlebar is least present. Not so with carbon.

Very cool. If your dock is on the bottom, then it will push the window's titlebar to be just above the dock.

Spheric Harlot · May 1, 2002, 05:52 PM

Originally posted by Mrjinglesusa:
Also, How come every time you click OmniWeb's icon in the dock it opens a NEW window, even if you already have one open? Frustrating.

PET PEEVE!

I hate this hate this hate this!

WHY!?

-s*

jason75 · May 1, 2002, 05:59 PM

Originally posted by Mrjinglesusa:
Also, How come every time you click OmniWeb's icon in the dock it opens a NEW window, even if you already have one open? Frustrating.

Doesn't do that for me either. It only creates a new page when I have no other windows visible.

Try removing your prefs. Maybe there's something wonky in them that is causing this.

[ 05-01-2002: Message edited by: jason75 ]