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Help Me Decide On a New (used) Car (Page 3)
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Dually noted. Moving on to what this thread is about
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May this thread rest in pieces then.
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Originally Posted by downinflames68
I know a decent amount about aero, considering how much time I've spent reading about it. My thesis project was about aerodynamics... and I've done CFD with 3d models to tweak the aero of shapes
Originally Posted by downinflames68
I'm not trying to be a dick, but I think you're overstepping your bounds on this topic.
Pot, kettle.
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Originally Posted by mduell
Pot, kettle.
Apt call, I think.
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Originally Posted by imitchellg5
I think we lost the OP.
You didnt lose me ... just watching this devolve into the normal he said / she said that happens with any car thread around here.
But I do appreciate the info I got in the beginning.
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Well, you have about 6 days and 11 hours to get more good info.
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Originally Posted by jersey
You didnt lose me ... just watching this devolve into the normal he said / she said that happens with any car thread around here.
But I do appreciate the info I got in the beginning.
Oh good
So what are your thoughts regarding the actual conversation on page one?
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Originally Posted by imitchellg5
So what are your thoughts regarding the actual conversation on page one?
My thoughts are that nothing I've looked at is the right choice after doing more research. I'm looking harder at the Fiesta since I can get Ford A/X plan. Funny thing is that I've never even seen one on the road - and living in New York, it seems like I should have.
While I still feel the Fit is one of the ugliest cars I've ever considered buying, it too fits the needs and has the dependability I'm looking for.
I still find it frustrating that some cars that are considered "small" are only 10 or so inches shorter than a Ford Ranger.
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I have 2 friends that have Fiestas and they love it.
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Originally Posted by cjrivera
I have 2 friends that have Fiestas and they love it.
Your math isnât sound my friend.
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Originally Posted by jersey
My thoughts are that nothing I've looked at is the right choice after doing more research. I'm looking harder at the Fiesta since I can get Ford A/X plan. Funny thing is that I've never even seen one on the road - and living in New York, it seems like I should have.
While I still feel the Fit is one of the ugliest cars I've ever considered buying, it too fits the needs and has the dependability I'm looking for.
I still find it frustrating that some cars that are considered "small" are only 10 or so inches shorter than a Ford Ranger.
The Fiesta isn't out much on the roads because of difficulty getting the cars to the US from Mexico. The hurricanes this year destroyed many of the railways that Ford uses. As of now, they have been restored, but the high volume of pre-orders (5k) gets first dibs, and most of those were high-spec SES hatches. So most dealers only have SE sedans and hatches in stock. The lots should be stocking up quickly though, and you'll see more on the road.
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Originally Posted by brassplayersrock²
Your math isnât sound my friend.
My math is ok... my pronoun usage not so much.
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Originally Posted by Laminar
Well, you have about 6 days and 11 hours to get more good info.
Not any more. He must have circumvented the ban because "banned" turned into "banninated." Thing is... I can't find any evidence of it like there is usually. Oh well... he'll be back, as usual.
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Originally Posted by brassplayersrock²
Dually
Damn fine idea.
All these little cars are death traps.
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Ha, what on Earth could you fit in the back of that thing that would warrant dual tires? Depleted Uranium?
Same goes for any truck with a pickup bed and dualies, there is just no need unless you are moving up to flatbed and/or dumping beds.
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Originally Posted by sek929
Ha, what on Earth could you fit in the back of that thing that would warrant dual tires? Depleted Uranium?
Amerikkkan chicks.
And British chicks.
Originally Posted by sek929
Same goes for any truck with a pickup bed and dualies, there is just no need unless you are moving up to flatbed and/or dumping beds.
What's "need" got to do with it? Are you standing in for Rob while he's gone or something?
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That's where there's thunder... and the wind shouts back.
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Originally Posted by sek929
Ha, what on Earth could you fit in the back of that thing that would warrant dual tires? Depleted Uranium?
Same goes for any truck with a pickup bed and dualies, there is just no need unless you are moving up to flatbed and/or dumping beds.
What about towing capacity?
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Take a look at what's pulling "5th wheel" travel trailers. The big ones have the same kind of fittings (only smaller) as semi trailers. And the most common tow vehicle I've seen around here has been a full-sized (often F-250 sized) pickups with dual rear wheels. Traction, braking, weight handling. That is a great reason to put dualies on a truck.
But on a Suburban? With that "tow ball receiver?" I would have to wonder what he's towing with that, 'cause it ain't a 5th wheel...
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Ford Fiestas. Lots of 'em.
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Originally Posted by ghporter
Take a look at what's pulling "5th wheel" travel trailers. The big ones have the same kind of fittings (only smaller) as semi trailers. And the most common tow vehicle I've seen around here has been a full-sized (often F-250 sized) pickups with dual rear wheels. Traction, braking, weight handling. That is a great reason to put dualies on a truck.
The F-250 isn't available in a dually, only the 350 and 450.
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Originally Posted by imitchellg5
The F-250 isn't available in a dually, only the 350 and 450.
I stand corrected, though I've seen a couple of what must have been custom rigs that were labeled 250 and had dual rears. I'd think that a 350 would be a better towing platform anyway...
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Originally Posted by sek929
Same goes for any truck with a pickup bed and dualies, there is just no need unless you are moving up to flatbed and/or dumping beds.
Just as I thought - even when towing conventionally, dualies offer increased towing capacity.
One interesting thing to note is that with the base 5.4 engine, dualies actually decrease towing capacity, both ball-and-hitch and 5th-wheel towing. The added weight of the extra wheels/other modifications decreases towing capacity, if only by a couple hundred pounds.
Originally Posted by ghporter
Take a look at what's pulling "5th wheel" travel trailers. The big ones have the same kind of fittings (only smaller) as semi trailers. And the most common tow vehicle I've seen around here has been a full-sized (often F-250 sized) pickups with dual rear wheels. Traction, braking, weight handling. That is a great reason to put dualies on a truck.
But on a Suburban? With that "tow ball receiver?" I would have to wonder what he's towing with that, 'cause it ain't a 5th wheel...
With the right engine, you can tow 15,000 pounds worth of whatever in a conventional ball and hitch configuration.
Originally Posted by ghporter
I stand corrected, though I've seen a couple of what must have been custom rigs that were labeled 250 and had dual rears.
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Originally Posted by Laminar
With the right engine, you can tow 15,000 pounds worth of whatever in a conventional ball and hitch configuration.
But not a 5th wheel, which requires a different sort of hitch:
Originally Posted by Laminar
Custom shops will put dual rear wheels on just about anything. I have honestly seen an S10 and a Ranger with dual rear wheels. Yes, they were pretty odd looking. But to have someone get his F250 customized isn't much of a stretch of the imagination...
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Originally Posted by ghporter
Custom shops will put dual rear wheels on just about anything.
..Even Suburbans!
Guess where the pic is from.
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Originally Posted by ghporter
But not a 5th wheel, which requires a different sort of hitch:
Yes, I know what a 5th wheel is. What I'm saying is that there actually might be a legitimate reason to put duallies on a Suburban.
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Originally Posted by Laminar
With the right engine, you can tow 15,000 pounds worth of whatever in a conventional ball and hitch configuration.
I suppose you could, but you shouldn't. If you get in a wreck and overloaded your truck and hitch, you'll be quite sorry. And if somebody dies in that wreck, you'll face criminal charges.
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Originally Posted by Doofy
..Even Suburbans!
Guess where the pic is from.
DuallyfendersUSA.com?
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Originally Posted by imitchellg5
I suppose you could, but you shouldn't. If you get in a wreck and overloaded your truck and hitch, you'll be quite sorry. And if somebody dies in that wreck, you'll face criminal charges.
Remind me again why you shouldn't do something the manufacturer says that you can do.
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Originally Posted by Laminar
Remind me again why you shouldn't do something the manufacturer says that you can do.
All you said is the right engine, you didn't mention any manufacturer's ratings at all, so I assumed you could have been referring to something like a 6.2L 1500 Silverado which is certainly not rated to pull 15,000 lbs.
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Originally Posted by imitchellg5
All you said is the right engine, you didn't mention any manufacturer's ratings at all, so I assumed you could have been referring to something like a 6.2L 1500 Silverado which is certainly not rated to pull 15,000 lbs.
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I meant Suburban, but my point is the same. Thanks for your well thought out response. You provided no context at all, instead making a generalized statement that is certainly not true unless you make qualifications, which I am happy to do.
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Ah, I guess you weren't following the conversation. Makes sense that you'd think that then.
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