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klb5090 · Feb 17, 2009, 03:22 PM

Originally Posted by Laminar

Absolutely. Couple the new Fusion with AWD, the EcoBoost, and a 6 speed manual, and it would kill the G8 GT, IS-F, and would almost be on par with the Audi RS4.

agreed! except for the IS-F and RS4, but it would be a much better looking/handling/performing car than this new "SHO"

Laminar · Feb 17, 2009, 03:30 PM

Originally Posted by klb5090

agreed! except for the IS-F and RS4, but it would be a much better looking/handling/performing car than this new "SHO"

365hp in a 3500 lb car with AWD would net about a 13.0 second quarter mile...0.2 seconds faster than the IS-F. Even though quarter mile time isn't the be-all end-all of performance characteristics, it definition would put the Fusion in some close competition.

imitchellg5 · Feb 18, 2009, 05:17 PM

A twin turbo Fusion would be awesome, but it's not the right car for Ford right now. Ford needs to be seen as pushing efficiency, not high performance.

IceEnclosure · Feb 19, 2009, 02:05 AM

On another note I saw a little BMW 1-Series this morning with some giant discs up front, pushing on 95 via twin-turbo power.

Shaddim · Feb 19, 2009, 03:29 AM

The 135i is a good way to spend 35k.

GreenerGadgetsEntry · Feb 20, 2009, 12:19 AM

This is a dumb idea. $38k, for a freaking taurus? Here's the main issue. Fords aren't worth anything. My friend just picked up a 2007 Fusion SE for $11,000. Now, just two years ago, this car cost over $22,000. So it loses 50% of the it's value, $11,000, in under two years. And you think people are going to pony up forty grand for it?

Good freakin' luck.

PS: This is what they should have made: http://www.autoblog.com/2009/02/11/2...art-at-22-000/

Laminar · Feb 20, 2009, 10:26 AM

Yes, because a single example is an excellent predictor of future resale values. You're posting the same crap here that you do over on AutoBlog, and it's still factually incorrect and wildly biased.

angelmb · Feb 20, 2009, 10:33 AM

I don't use to like BMWs but they did a good job with the 1 Series Coupé… looks like a 2000 CS, a pity the incredibly boring dashboard.

ctt1wbw · Feb 21, 2009, 04:13 AM

Originally Posted by klb5090

nah you got it all wrong, that dodge durango is where its at!

ok i'm done

Hey, 149k miles and NO BREAKDOWNS. Can't beat with a stick!

ctt1wbw · Feb 21, 2009, 04:14 AM

Originally Posted by imitchellg5

A twin turbo Fusion would be awesome, but it's not the right car for Ford right now. Ford needs to be seen as pushing efficiency, not high performance.

They already have a Fusion. They can make a twin turbo if they want.

ctt1wbw · Feb 21, 2009, 04:16 AM

Originally Posted by angelmb

I don't use to like BMWs but they did a good job with the 1 Series Coupé… looks like a 2000 CS, a pity the incredibly boring dashboard.

I love the 6 coupe and the new 550i is freakin awesome. The 3 is too small and the 7 is for rich snobs.

angelmb · Feb 21, 2009, 06:10 PM

So are you annoyed or glad about Mr. Bangle had leaven BMW (and the car design world for that matter) ??

IMHO the 7 Series is the worst looking thing in the BMW range right now.

Art Vandelay · Feb 21, 2009, 08:50 PM

Originally Posted by angelmb

IMHO the 7 Series is the worst looking thing in the BMW range right now.

Which one? The one that just came out or the previous one?

angelmb · Feb 22, 2009, 05:23 AM

Are those any different really?, to me it is like a logo with scalability issues.

ctt1wbw · Feb 22, 2009, 05:58 PM

Originally Posted by angelmb

So are you annoyed or glad about Mr. Bangle had leaven BMW (and the car design world for that matter) ??

IMHO the 7 Series is the worst looking thing in the BMW range right now.

Yeah, but I don't really like the Mercedes S Class either. Those are just too snobby for me. Now the Audi S-8 is one sweet ride. Those look so much better than the 7 series and S Class.

But I think one of the nicest looking sedans from those three is the Mercedes CLS-55 AMG. I've seen a few around these parts and those are absolutely beautiful. Probably one of the nicest Mercedes has made, imho.

angelmb · Feb 23, 2009, 04:42 AM

The CLS design was just ahead of its time, five years later most car makers are trying to play catch-up and failing miserably.

ctt1wbw · Feb 23, 2009, 05:40 AM

I think it resembles the Oldsmobile Aurora a bit. I test drove that car and thought it was a pile of ****. It had zero power for a V8. I was sorely saddened. It looked good, though.

glideslope · Feb 24, 2009, 07:52 PM

Originally Posted by d4nth3m4n

a bmw 550i costs $70k? holy crap.

LOL. I was having our Toyota serviced last month. It's an Auto-Mall type setup. Next door was their BMW shop. I went in and there was a brand new 2009 M5. The sticker was almost $90,000. I had to get permission to sit in it and lift the hood.

I will say one thing. When I closed the door and gripped the wheel the hair on my arms stood up. When I lifted the hood I was covered in goose-bumps.

I said thank you and returned to reality.

Pretz · Feb 24, 2009, 09:14 PM

it looks great to me. i would buy it if i had the money