[Appleman]

Whenever I want to import files from my digital Nikon 2500 camera, it does import the photo's, but as soon as I quit iPhoto, and later restart the app, the "last import" isn't the one I just downloaded from the cam. Then, since they are in the Pictures Folder, I thought about importing the files manually, but then the application crashes.

Very weird, specially since thjis happened as well when I was at the Apple Store in L.A., sitting at the Genius Bar, so I asked one of them, but they couldn't figure it out...so far for the definition of genius.

Does anyone of you has an idea and/or solution for this buggy behaviour, or is it already known and does it have to be updated in version 1.1.2? Happened in 10.2.2 as well, so that shouldn't be the reason, and I did a fresh install (first formatted the drive etc).

Thanks.

[KidRed]

I just imported off my Plympus E10 and went off without a hitch. I quit and relaunched and the last import is intact. That doesn't sound buggy to me. You have an issue with your setup somehow, somewhere which does not make a great app buggy. Probably why the 'geniuses' couldn't figure it out.

Also, have you tried to drag and drop the images over? I'm running 1.1.1 and didn't know 1.1.2 was out. Are you running jaguar? Maybe after importing try to set up albums to see if the pics stay. As a last result, I'd delte your iphoto prefs and image catalogs and start fresh. Maybe make a back up the pics to manually drag back over.

[cowerd]

Are you attaching the camera directly to the Mac, or to an USB hub? How about some useful info if you're actually asking for help -- and not just complaining

[Appleman]

Was away for some days...

I deleted the prefs, I actually installed jaguar again, with all the updates until 10.2.3, and it does it again.

Usefull info? Nikon 2500 attached directly to USB port (#1) of my PowerBook G4-500MHz with 20 GB harddisk (not partitioned) and 768 MB RAM.
When I import from the camera it goes fine, but as soon as I quit and reopen, the pics are gone.
When I import a pic from elsewhere on my harddisk, it crashes.
How much more info do you want? I can copy the console log if you want?

Simple complaining? When a app crashes, and not just now and then but always, I would say that's named buggy.

[Appleman]

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Date/Time: 2002-12-26 21:07:16 +0100
OS Version: 10.2.3 (Build 6G30)
Host: Joris-van-t-Lands-Computer.local.

Command: iPhoto
PID: 541

Exception: EXC_BREAKPOINT (0x0006)
Code[0]: 0x00000001Code[1]: 0x90844988

Thread 0:
#0 0x90073c48 in mach_msg_trap
#1 0x90005f90 in mach_msg
#2 0x90148b10 in __CFRunLoopRun
#3 0x90180fe4 in CFRunLoopRunSpecific
#4 0x969a36a0 in RunCurrentEventLoopInMode
#5 0x969b34c8 in ReceiveNextEventCommon
#6 0x969da584 in BlockUntilNextEventMatchingListInMode
#7 0x9308d8ac in _DPSNextEvent
#8 0x9309fb04 in -[NSApplication nextEventMatchingMask:untilDate:inMode:dequeue:]
#9 0x930b15e4 in -[NSApplication run]
#10 0x9315f6b8 in NSApplicationMain
#11 0x000048d4 in 0x48d4
#12 0x00004704 in 0x4704

Thread 1:
#0 0x9003eaa8 in semaphore_wait_signal_trap
#1 0x9003e8c4 in _pthread_cond_wait
#2 0x90824180 in -[NSConditionLock lockWhenCondition:]
#3 0x93081388 in -[NSUIHeartBeat _heartBeatThread:]
#4 0x9081cd38 in forkThreadForFunction
#5 0x90020d48 in _pthread_body

Thread 2 Crashed:
#0 0x90844988 in _NSRaiseError
#1 0x90844810 in +[NSException raise:format:]
#2 0x907e50b8 in -[NSCFDictionary setObject:forKey:]
#3 0x0004e3a8 in 0x4e3a8
#4 0x0004f380 in 0x4f380
#5 0x0004c7b8 in 0x4c7b8
#6 0x00019a80 in 0x19a80
#7 0x0001ad3c in 0x1ad3c
#8 0x0001bdcc in 0x1bdcc
#9 0x9081cd38 in forkThreadForFunction
#10 0x90020d48 in _pthread_body

Thread 3:
#0 0x90014d28 in syscall_thread_switch
#1 0x907f4304 in +[NSThread sleepUntilDate:]
#2 0x0000ee30 in 0xee30
#3 0x9081cd38 in forkThreadForFunction
#4 0x90020d48 in _pthread_body

Thread 4:
#0 0x90014d28 in syscall_thread_switch
#1 0x907f4304 in +[NSThread sleepUntilDate:]
#2 0x0000f760 in 0xf760
#3 0x9081cd38 in forkThreadForFunction
#4 0x90020d48 in _pthread_body

PPC Thread State:
srr0: 0x90844988 srr1: 0x0202f030 vrsave: 0x00000000
xer: 0x00000000 lr: 0x90844964 ctr: 0x907e4270 mq: 0x00000000
r0: 0x00000000 r1: 0xf002faa0 r2: 0x24000249 r3: 0xa07ed3b8
r4: 0x9068d51c r5: 0x20000000 r6: 0xf002f780 r7: 0x00000000
r8: 0x00128010 r9: 0xa07e0294 r10: 0x00000001 r11: 0x00000000
r12: 0x24000249 r13: 0x00000000 r14: 0x00000000 r15: 0x00000000
r16: 0x00000000 r17: 0x00000000 r18: 0x018e8a30 r19: 0x01f92920
r20: 0x01bbe270 r21: 0x00000016 r22: 0x02f81070 r23: 0x01bc1cc0
r24: 0x05e7cb40 r25: 0x0000001e r26: 0x041bd190 r27: 0x00000000
r28: 0x906d3918 r29: 0x041bd130 r30: 0x000cab74 r31: 0x908448a8

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Date/Time: 2002-12-26 21:12:36 +0100
OS Version: 10.2.3 (Build 6G30)
Host: Joris-van-t-Lands-Computer.local.

Command: iPhoto
PID: 545

Exception: EXC_BAD_ACCESS (0x0001)
Codes: KERN_PROTECTION_FAILURE (0x0002) at 0x00000020

Thread 0 Crashed:
#0 0x9068ba50 in objc_msgSend
#1 0x931c3c94 in runModalCleanup
#2 0x0007bc50 in 0x7bc50
#3 0x930f90e4 in -[NSApplication sendAction:to:from:]
#4 0x93119868 in -[NSControl sendAction:to:]
#5 0x9315dfac in -[NSCell _sendActionFrom:]
#6 0x930f2ad4 in -[NSCell trackMouse:inRect:ofView:untilMouseUp:]
#7 0x9315dbcc in -[NSButtonCell trackMouse:inRect:ofView:untilMouseUp:]
#8 0x9312d504 in -[NSControl mouseDown:]
#9 0x930c0888 in -[NSWindow sendEvent:]
#10 0x930a8788 in -[NSApplication sendEvent:]
#11 0x00070174 in 0x70174
#12 0x930b1608 in -[NSApplication run]
#13 0x9315f6b8 in NSApplicationMain
#14 0x000048d4 in 0x48d4
#15 0x00004704 in 0x4704

Thread 1:
#0 0x9003eaa8 in semaphore_wait_signal_trap
#1 0x9003e8c4 in _pthread_cond_wait
#2 0x90824180 in -[NSConditionLock lockWhenCondition:]
#3 0x93081388 in -[NSUIHeartBeat _heartBeatThread:]
#4 0x9081cd38 in forkThreadForFunction
#5 0x90020d48 in _pthread_body

PPC Thread State:
srr0: 0x9068ba50 srr1: 0x0200f030 vrsave: 0x00000000
xer: 0x20000000 lr: 0x931c3c94 ctr: 0x9068ba3c mq: 0x00000000
r0: 0x931c3c94 r1: 0xbfffebb0 r2: 0x24000280 r3: 0x03d5880b
r4: 0x933ffb48 r5: 0x01eb8c30 r6: 0x41a00000 r7: 0x00000002
r8: 0x00000002 r9: 0x00000001 r10: 0x00000001 r11: 0xa3072cf8
r12: 0x00000000 r13: 0x00000000 r14: 0x00000000 r15: 0x00000000
r16: 0xa30726a8 r17: 0xa30a26a8 r18: 0xa30a26a8 r19: 0xa30a26a8
r20: 0x00000000 r21: 0xa30a26a8 r22: 0x00000000 r23: 0x01f41a10
r24: 0xa30a26a8 r25: 0x00000000 r26: 0x044ac7d0 r27: 0x044ac7d0
r28: 0x00000000 r29: 0xa3070084 r30: 0x04706fe0 r31: 0x931c3c64

[Appleman]

Looks like this thread has the solution.

[Appleman]

Originally posted by Appleman:
Looks like this thread has the solution.

It's not the solution for me...

[krove]

I experienced exactly the same problem yesterday. In fact, after importing, the pictures were copied to my iPhoto library in my pictures folder, but I couldn't see them anywhere in iPhoto.

I had to reimport them 3 times to get it to stick.

I had one crash during that period as well. This is on an iBook 600, 640 MB RAM OS X 10.2.3.

I hope a new version of iPhoto comes out at Macworld!

[Appleman]

Originally posted by krove:
I experienced exactly the same problem yesterday. In fact, after importing, the pictures were copied to my iPhoto library in my pictures folder, but I couldn't see them anywhere in iPhoto.

I had to reimport them 3 times to get it to stick.

I had one crash during that period as well. This is on an iBook 600, 640 MB RAM OS X 10.2.3.

I hope a new version of iPhoto comes out at Macworld!

If you take a look at this thread you'll read we are not the only guys with this problem, despite some people say it is just stupid complaining...

And yes, indeed the pics do get into the Pictures folder, but do not show up in the iPhoto library.

One day I'll find out why...

[Spadesman]

If you visit this thread you can see that I had a similar problem. I solved the problem by deleting the following items:[list=1][*]iPhoto app[*]com.iphoto.plist in ~/Library/Preferences[*]iphoto cache in ~/Caches/[*]AlbumData.xml in ~/Library/iApps/iPhoto[/list=1]

I reinstalled iPhoto 1.1.1 and all went back to normal, I hope this helps. I had just deleted the first 3 items in the list and continued to have the same problems, but removing the albumdata.xml was the kicker. Hope this helps.

[Montezuma58]

Originally posted by Spadesman:
If you visit this thread you can see that I had a similar problem. I solved the problem by deleting the following items:[list=1][*]iPhoto app[*]com.iphoto.plist in ~/Library/Preferences[*]iphoto cache in ~/Caches/[*]AlbumData.xml in ~/Library/iApps/iPhoto[/list=1]

I reinstalled iPhoto 1.1.1 and all went back to normal, I hope this helps. I had just deleted the first 3 items in the list and continued to have the same problems, but removing the albumdata.xml was the kicker. Hope this helps.

Well, the same damn problem started with me. I tried the above steps (except that I could not find ~/Caches/ ) When I started iPhoto after reinstalling it came up with all of my pictures in one big pile. I'm not sure why. I'm not intimately familiar with iPhoto but it looks like it should have every thing it needs in the photolibrary directory. I restored the plist and xml files and it looks like it did before but the problem is still there.

I looked through the photo library some of the pictures I imported today were showing up in the directory for two days ago.

This is the first time my Mac has pissed me off since switching last March. I hope apple fixes this soon this is a very significant bug. Hopeflully iPhoto 1.2 will fix this. I noticed you have to dig around to find 1.1.1 on the apple site now.

[KidRed]

Originally posted by Montezuma58:
Well, the same damn problem started with me. I tried the above steps (except that I could not find ~/Caches/ ) When I started iPhoto after reinstalling it came up with all of my pictures in one big pile. I'm not sure why. I'm not intimately familiar with iPhoto but it looks like it should have every thing it needs in the photolibrary directory. I restored the plist and xml files and it looks like it did before but the problem is still there.

I looked through the photo library some of the pictures I imported today were showing up in the directory for two days ago.

This is the first time my Mac has pissed me off since switching last March. I hope apple fixes this soon this is a very significant bug. Hopeflully iPhoto 1.2 will fix this. I noticed you have to dig around to find 1.1.1 on the apple site now.

users/you/library/caches/iphoto cache

appleman- it's not that you are complaining, but I don't think you can call iPhoto 'buggy' when only a few people experience your problem out of the tens of thousands of iphoto users. I know they all don't post here, but ratio wise your unfortunate situation seems to be system related rather iPhoto being a buggy app.

[Montezuma58]

Doh! I thought the cache was in the library I don't know how I missed that when I looked there. The fix still did not work. Nor did the one linked to on Apple's site. Nor several variations of them. Oh well, I think I'll just wait a couple of weeks and see if 1.2 fixes this. Hell one of the reasons I switched to a Mac was so I wouldn't have to waste time assing around with junk like this.

I'll disagree with the last assement of the severity of the bug. You also have to take into account the impact of the bug not just the number of people affected. The impact is huge: the application does not perform its main purpose. Even a just a few people complaining of this should be noteworthy. It's not like some minor feature that's not working correctly.

[cpac]

have you all ruled out other problems? Hard disk corruption/fragmentation? RAM problems and the like? How full is your hard disk? What other apps do you have running?

It definitely sounds like a severe problem, but if it's system dependent (as it seems to be with many many people experiencing no hint of this sort of problem) it'd difficult to tell whether it's really Apple's problem (and whether its something they could really fix).

If it's not hardware, perhaps you're all running some kernal extension or haxie or something that somehow messes with resources iPhoto uses.

[MickS]

Originally posted by Appleman:
Whenever I want to import files from my digital Nikon 2500 camera, it does import the photo's, but as soon as I quit iPhoto, and later restart the app, the "last import" isn't the one I just downloaded from the cam.

The 'last import' has never been maintained between iPhoto 'sessions'. If you look in the Photo Library and check the 'Film Rolls' box at the bottom you would see your images sorted by import.

Then, since they are in the Pictures Folder, I thought about importing the files manually, but then the application crashes.

Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear. iPhoto stores the files in folders within the 'iPhoto Library'. These files are placed there and an index created to them. If you re-insert them into iPhoto it will try and put them in the same place again. This is probably something that the developers didn't think of (never underestimate the power of users to do the unexpected) and has corrupted the iPhoto database.

If you've not solved it yet here is my suggestion:-

1. backup and rename the ~/Pictures/iPhoto Library/ folder.
2. launch iPhoto
3. Check that it creates a new, empty library.
4. Import each directory in the old iPhoto library one at a time. Quit and relaunch iPhoto between each one.

Very weird, specially since thjis happened as well when I was at the Apple Store in L.A., sitting at the Genius Bar, so I asked one of them, but they couldn't figure it out...so far for the definition of genius.

Did you tell them exactly what you did?

[Montezuma58]

I don't normally like using the smiley things but this new one is appropriate

Well as is very common, the best solution is very simple yet easily overlooked in the heat of the moment. I opened iPoto, went to the last roll I successfully brought in, then deleted it. Now it appears to work fine. I'll play around with it some more later today and see if that's still the case.

Not sure if it was some disk hiccup, memory glitch, some sub atomic particle from space causing a bit to slip, or what that caused the corruption. Whatever it was I hope 1.2 deals with it a little better.