[scaught]

is there more than an evil dictatorship here? it seems to me that saddam needs to be taken out of power, the govt needs a serious overhaul etc. are we going to see massive amounts of bombing and innocent civilians already sanctioned nearly to death killed?

its apparent that we ARENT going to just nuke the place as we continue to send troops to the area.

maybe someone can provide me some insight.

[Atef's Carcase]

Nuking wouldn't accomplish anything, that's why it isn't going to be done.

[dillerX]

The north and south of Iraq really aren't held by Saddam. The US will set up shop, and some bases in strategic locations in the north and south shortly.

US Special Forces already seem to be in Iraq. If anyone remembers, the US used 100 warplanes in a "raid" during late November, early December. They used a attack by a SAM site as the set-up to get special forces on the ground again. (Most military personel have stated that the Iraqis gave them the perfect oppurtunity to get in) Guarenteed they are working with resistance forces in the north & south.

I predict Saddam will TRY to hold up in some Iraqi city (Baghdad) as his final stand. However, I feel he will try to weasel his way out the back door while his men die for him once again. Another misjudgment on his part.

His ass is toast and he knows it. His miscalculation once again will be that his people will support him. They are just waiting for the military power of the US to cover them.

Just my prediciton anyway.

[MPC]

If we Nuke then the sand turns to glass, right?

That way we can see the oil, perfection.

[finboy]

Nuking Iraq would solve Kuwait's parking problem. But we aren't going to nuke Iraq.

[Zimphire]

Originally posted by Atef's Carcase:
Nuking wouldn't accomplish anything, that's why it isn't going to be done.

These type of comments crack you up too right?

[scottiB]

If we Nuke then the sand turns to glass, right?

That way we can see the oil, perfection.

[Atef's Carcase]

Originally posted by dillerX:
The north and south of Iraq really aren't held by Saddam. The US will set up shop, and some bases in strategic locations in the north and south shortly.

US Special Forces already seem to be in Iraq. If anyone remembers, the US used 100 warplanes in a "raid" during late November, early December. They used a attack by a SAM site as the set-up to get special forces on the ground again. (Most military personel have stated that the Iraqis gave them the perfect oppurtunity to get in) Guarenteed they are working with resistance forces in the north & south.

I predict Saddam will TRY to hold up in some Iraqi city (Baghdad) as his final stand. However, I feel he will try to weasel his way out the back door while his men die for him once again. Another misjudgment on his part.

His ass is toast and he knows it. His miscalculation once again will be that his people will support him. They are just waiting for the military power of the US to cover them.

Just my prediciton anyway.

I think you're right--provided someone doesn't first blow a hole in the back of his skull while he's not looking.

however, Baghdad isn't important. It would be feasible to just surround the city (NOT lay seige to it) to keep his cronies and him from escaping. Eventually someone from his inner sanctum would kill him off, or special forces could penetrate into the city and attack targets there. No invasion necessary.

[PB2K]

Iraq will be the least of USA's problems the following months..

[scaught]

okay. so the nuking part of the title of the thread was merely an attention getter. ill admit that. i sort of quantified the statement in my original posting up there...

i dont know. i just dont want to see massive bombing campaigns and innocents being slaughtered by the thousands. they arent any happier with the govt over there than we are AFAIK.

[Atef's Carcase]

Originally posted by PB2K:
Iraq will be the least of USA's problems the following months..

Then why don't you enlighten us, Miss Cleo. Impress us with your foresight.

[Thrax]

If something isn't done within the next few years, Iraq will be a threat to every nation in the region.

Iraq + nukes = Iraq occupying Kuwait and Saudi Arabia + nuclear war with Israel.

That's what a war will solve.

[macvillage.net]

Actually, our nuclear arsonal has an "estimated power"... we don't know exactly how powerful it is...

So if we nuke it, we can see for a fact



That might be it? Weapons testing?

[Adam Betts]

Originally posted by Atef's Carcase:
Then why don't you enlighten us, Miss Cleo. Impress us with your foresight.

I agree. Iraq will always be our major problem. There may be other problems but mostly they are related to Saddam one way or another.

[voodoo]

Originally posted by macvillage.net:
Actually, our nuclear arsonal has an "estimated power"... we don't know exactly how powerful it is...

So if we nuke it, we can see for a fact



That might be it? Weapons testing?

Yeah! Now there is an idea, test the US nukes on Iraq. Comeon, we all just itch to see how much damage they can make, right? Will the desert really turn into glass? I don't believe it until I see it. Go on then, Nuke the bastards!!!

[docbud]

I thought I had read something somewhere that using a nuke would ruin the oil or something for so many years..

[Adam Betts]

Originally posted by docbud:
I thought I had read something somewhere that using a nuke would ruin the oil or something for so many years..

There are different versions of Nuclear Bomb.

They could make nuclear bomb to explode horizontally instead of vertically. That way Oil at bottom won't be damaged.

[Atef's Carcase]

Originally posted by voodoo:
Yeah! Now there is an idea, test the US nukes on Iraq. Comeon, we all just itch to see how much damage they can make, right? Will the desert really turn into glass? I don't believe it until I see it. Go on then, Nuke the bastards!!!

Before the first nuclear test (New Mexico, July 16, 1945), the scientists bet on whether the nuclear explosion would vaporise Earth's atmosphere. Funny guys, those nuclear scientists.

'Behold, I am become death, destroyer of worlds.'

[voodoo]

Originally posted by Atef's Carcase:
Before the first nuclear test (New Mexico, July 16, 1945), the scientists bet on whether the nuclear explosion would vaporise Earth's atmosphere. Funny guys, those nuclear scientists.

'Behold, I am become death, destroyer of worlds.'

Do you know why some of the scientists thought so?

[Atef's Carcase]

Originally posted by voodoo:
Do you know why some of the scientists thought so?

dunno. I could speculate, but I'd rather not.

[voodoo]

Originally posted by Atef's Carcase:
dunno. I could speculate, but I'd rather not.

Some of the scientists involved thought that the heat of a nuclear blast that it would not only set the oxygen around it on fire, but cause a chain reaction of burning oxigen that would engulf the entire globe. They were wrong, it needs far more power than one nuke to start something like that. But then, none of them was completely sure of what would happen when they set off the first nuke. Fortunately it all went well.

I can imagine that they felt like the destroyers of worlds when seeing the awsome blast. I know I would.

Can you imagine to witness a real nuclear implosion from one of the big bombs?

Destroyer of worlds... wow.

[macvillage.net]

Originally posted by voodoo:
Some of the scientists involved thought that the heat of a nuclear blast that it would not only set the oxygen around it on fire, but cause a chain reaction of burning oxigen that would engulf the entire globe. They were wrong, it needs far more power than one nuke to start something like that. But then, none of them was completely sure of what would happen when they set off the first nuke. Fortunately it all went well.

I can imagine that they felt like the destroyers of worlds when seeing the awsome blast. I know I would.

Can you imagine to witness a real nuclear implosion from one of the big bombs?

Destroyer of worlds... wow.

Many people thought if you sailed to far out into the atlantic you would fall off the world

[Montezuma58]

Originally posted by voodoo:
Some of the scientists involved thought that the heat of a nuclear blast that it would not only set the oxygen around it on fire....

What's even scarier was that some of the scientist involved with this were playing around with this nuclear (or nucular if you're GWB) stuff in the middle of one of the US's biggest cities not long before they were making weapons from it.

[Cipher13]

Originally posted by PB2K:
Iraq will be the least of USA's problems the following months..

Agreed.

Don't expect the terrorists to pack up shpo as soon as Baghdad falls.

[NeoMac]

Who said anything about nuking Iraq?

With all the brilliant weapons the U.S. has, there's a sudden desire to use nukes?

Give me a break.

[driven]

Originally posted by Atef's Carcase:
dunno. I could speculate, but I'd rather not.

Yet they tested it anyway .... Egads ...

"Dude, we're still here!"
"No way!"
"Way!"
"That was AWESOME!"

[korn]

Nuking would solve a lot of problems for the radical Muslim world.
It would give them a good reason to kill Americans worldwide.

[driven]

Originally posted by korn:
Nuking would solve a lot of problems for the radical Muslim world.
It would give them a good reason to kill Americans worldwide.

Like radical religious fanatics (not just muslums) ever needed a REASON to kill others.

If one is provided, great! If not, make something up and go with it.

[Spliffdaddy]

Originally posted by korn:
Nuking would solve a lot of problems for the radical Muslim world.
It would give them a good reason to kill Americans worldwide.

They haven't needed a reason up until now.

[voodoo]

Originally posted by Spliffdaddy:
They haven't needed a reason up until now.

In a way you are their reason TN.

[Atef's Carcase]

Originally posted by voodoo:
In a way you are their reason TN.

yeah.

Fill us in on that point, voopoo, because you're dying to excrete something fresh.

[rambo47]

Until you're willing to nuke the entire arab world, nuking Iraq will not stop terrorism. I might slow it down for a bit while the whole world says, "Holy Sh!t!!", but it will return. Besides, nuking is so "1980's". The real horror is in biological weapons, like genetically tailored plagues. Stuff that makes the Bubonic Plague look like a common cold.

As for nukes ruining the oil, we have Neutron weapons that deliver no shockwave but do deliver a massive dose of gamma radiation. It doesn't penetrate the soil for more than 80 feet or so and dissapates in less than a month to the point of safely walking around ground zero without radiation protection. It won't even brake the glass windows of the buildings in the kill zone, and the yeild is user-configurable. Dial in the desired yield (size of kill zone), launch, and enjoy!

[voodoo]

Originally posted by Atef's Carcase:
yeah.

Fill us in on that point, voopoo, because you're dying to excrete something fresh.

You have been reported Atef.

[voodoo]

Originally posted by rambo47:
Until you're willing to nuke the entire arab world, nuking Iraq will not stop terrorism. I might slow it down for a bit while the whole world says, "Holy Sh!t!!", but it will return. Besides, nuking is so "1980's". The real horror is in biological weapons, like genetically tailored plagues. Stuff that makes the Bubonic Plague look like a common cold.

As for nukes ruining the oil, we have Neutron weapons that deliver no shockwave but do deliver a massive dose of gamma radiation. It doesn't penetrate the soil for more than 80 feet or so and dissapates in less than a month to the point of safely walking around ground zero without radiation protection. It won't even brake the glass windows of the buildings in the kill zone, and the yeild is user-configurable. Dial in the desired yield (size of kill zone), launch, and enjoy!

I agree that you'd have to nuke the entire middle east if you'd want to eradicate the muslim terrorists.

There is nothing wrong with being a little 80s Rambo

Don't tell me you cut off your mullet??

[Atef's Carcase]

Originally posted by voodoo:
You have been reported Atef.

not surprising that you whined about that. I didn't call you names this time; haven't done so in a while. I may ridicule your opinions and refer to them as trash or use various metaphors*, but calling you names isn't something I do anymore.

You only marginalise yourself and hold your tactics up as immature by acting in this manner. You obviously cannot handle the balance and sanity I provide.

*heheh. I really liked my 'excrete something fresh' line. A classic that one is.

[voodoo]

Originally posted by Atef's Carcase:
not surprising that you whined about that. I didn't call you names this time; haven't done so in a while. I may ridicule your opinions and refer to them as trash or use various metaphors*, but calling you names isn't something I do anymore.

You only marginalise yourself and hold your tactics up as immature by acting in this manner. You obviously cannot handle the balance and sanity I provide.

*heheh. I really liked my 'excrete something fresh' line. A classic that one is.

You are history Atef. You are exactly what this forums doesn't need. Buhbye.

[Spliffdaddy]

I just reported that threat you made, voodoo

[voodoo]

Originally posted by Spliffdaddy:
I just reported that threat you made, voodoo

[Lerkfish]

Originally posted by voodoo:
I agree that you'd have to nuke the entire middle east if you'd want to eradicate the muslim terrorists.

There is nothing wrong with being a little 80s Rambo

Don't tell me you cut off your mullet??

personal attack: ad hominem ( I intend to catalog every time you do this, voodoo...because you keep claiming you do not)

[Lerkfish]

Originally posted by voodoo:
You are history Atef. You are exactly what this forums doesn't need. Buhbye.

personal attack: ad hominem ( I intend to catalog every time you do this, voodoo...because you keep claiming you do not)

[Lerkfish]

Originally posted by voodoo:
In a way you are their reason TN.

personal attack: ad hominem ( I intend to catalog every time you do this, voodoo...because you keep claiming you do not)

[Zimphire]

Originally posted by voodoo:
You are history Atef. You are exactly what this forums doesn't need. Buhbye.

Er, I think this forum needed someone to debunk all the leftist FUD for a while now.
One quick way to get rid of him is...

Stop spreading the FUD



That will get rid of him faster than anything else.

[Atef's Carcase]

Originally posted by voodoo:
You are history Atef. You are exactly what this forums doesn't need. Buhbye.

[rambo47]

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Originally posted by Voodoo:
Don't tell me you cut off your mullet??
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High and tight, baby! Hoo-yah!!