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JonoG4 · May 30, 2001, 04:03 PM

I emailed Misha about him leaving and this is what he sent me... at least we know what he is up to now and I wish him the best of luck.
Below is the e-mail:

MacNN forum members:

A week ago I posted a notice hinting at my imminent departure from MacNN,
which is now official.

After more than four enjoyable years with MacNN, I have decided to move on.
I depart MacNN on amicable terms, and would like to express a sincere
gratitude to Monish Bhatia, my employer during my time at MacNN, for the
opportunity that he granted me.

My decision to leave MacNN did not come easily. In my time, I've enjoyed
having a part in shaping MacNN into what I consider the #1 Mac site on the
Web. I've enjoyed delivering the news, offering informed product reviews,
covering tradeshows, and perhaps most importantly, playing a role in shaping
the MacNN Forums from the seeds that they were originally, to the wonderful
community they has blossomed into.

My heart and future remain with the Mac web, however. I have partnered with
Stan Flack, co-founder of MacCentral (since departed), on his new venture,
MacMinute. Currently in its infancy, I look forward to working with and
shaping MacMinute into another reputable resource for the Mac community.

I wish you all the best and look forward to the new opportunity that has
been presented to me, as well as hopefully working with and speaking to many
of you in the future.

Always,
Misha
[email protected]

AlbertWu · May 30, 2001, 04:07 PM

He said something similar to me too.

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Not_Dark_Yet · May 30, 2001, 04:52 PM

Cool guy.

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jagga · May 30, 2001, 04:55 PM

Monish Bhatia?? Is Macnn owned by a fellow Indian

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gorgonzola · May 30, 2001, 05:10 PM

Yes. It's administrated by one too.

*hint hint*

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saj · May 30, 2001, 05:22 PM

Originally posted by gorgonzola:
Yes. It's administrated by one too.

*hint hint*

Really heartening to see that people from India in Mac community (and their contribution). You don't see that much back home. Me, Indian, you bet!!!

PowerBookDude · May 30, 2001, 05:48 PM

sakellaropoulo.com

okkkkkkkk....

scaught · May 30, 2001, 05:56 PM

did you try to go to sakellaropoulo.com ? it loads some page with "misha" in a big blue circle, but the site name changes to "www.sexymisha.com" ????

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Norm1985 · May 30, 2001, 05:58 PM

Misha will be missed.

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Scott_H · May 30, 2001, 06:01 PM

I was at an Indian/Hindu wedding this weekend. Holly crap you all need to get together and work on cutting down the length of that ceremony. At least refreshments and lunch were served during the ceremony.

georgius · May 30, 2001, 06:01 PM

Bye Misha...adieu...best wishes for the future...

Play it cool

saj · May 30, 2001, 06:05 PM

Originally posted by Scott_H:
I was at an Indian/Hindu wedding this weekend. Holly crap you all need to get together and work on cutting down the length of that ceremony. At least refreshments and lunch were served during the ceremony.

LOL. Well, the idea is that it happens once in a lifetime (or at least, once in a while

), so why short cuts? And you don't know about Muslims marriage in India which goes on for three days!!!! Try attending one, you'll see what I'm talking about.

gorgonzola · May 30, 2001, 06:06 PM

Originally posted by Scott_H:
I was at an Indian/Hindu wedding this weekend. Holly crap you all need to get together and work on cutting down the length of that ceremony. At least refreshments and lunch were served during the ceremony.

I feel your pain man. I hate those weddings too. If the people have the reception at some bad restaraunt the food usually sucks too. Traditional weddings are about 9 hours long, I believe, but very few people do that anymore. I haven't gone to that many Indian weddings but they're horribly boring.

Needless to say, keeping awake during Indian weddings is not my forte.

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mkbhatia · May 30, 2001, 07:52 PM

Funny, I was at an Indian wedding as well

Three days of merriment is the way I see it.

best,
monish

gorgonzola · May 30, 2001, 08:08 PM

Ah, I guess it depends. All the ones I've gone to are really remote relatives, so I don't know who's getting married in the first place.

And it all depends on quality of food/entertainment/people. All the ones I've gone to have these 5 year old girls doing this bizarre Indian dancing imitation, heh.

There's also a big difference between an Indian wedding in the US and an Indian wedding in India...

To each his own.

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RoofusPennymore · May 30, 2001, 08:11 PM

Originally posted by Scott_H:
I was at an Indian/Hindu wedding this weekend. Holly crap you all need to get together and work on cutting down the length of that ceremony. At least refreshments and lunch were served during the ceremony.

Hmmm... The guy that sets in the cube next to me went to one this weekend too. Was it in LA?

RoofusPennymore · May 30, 2001, 08:13 PM

Originally posted by gorgonzola:
And it all depends on quality of food/entertainment/people.

That's pretty much true no matter what kind of wedding it is.

gorgonzola · May 30, 2001, 08:16 PM

True.

I still think there's a wider range for Indian weddings though. But I'm no authority ... for obvious reasons ...

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Raman · May 30, 2001, 08:16 PM

Originally posted by Scott_H:
I was at an Indian/Hindu wedding this weekend. Holly crap you all need to get together and work on cutting down the length of that ceremony. At least refreshments and lunch were served during the ceremony.

One of my ex's dad who is quite active in the catholic church (he even sings at weddings) once said "catholocism(sic) is a religon of convenience"..

Being Indian myself, I've been to some really long Hindu weddings. Some were very lavish - the groom came up riding on a horse! Anyway.. it's a very big deal, and, judging from just the length of prayers, and the fact that divorce is not recognized by the Hindu religion, I'd say that we're pretty serious when it comes to marriage.

Note: I don't mean to put down other religions so don't take it that way.

gorgonzola · May 30, 2001, 08:19 PM

Crap, there are a lot more Indians on this BB than I thought.

P.S. I might have stayed awake the last time if I got the horse arrival. Lucky bastard Raman.

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l'ignorante · May 30, 2001, 08:21 PM

Originally posted by gorgonzola:

There's also a big difference between an Indian wedding in the US and an Indian wedding in India...

no say!!! Keep up the intelligent posts, moderators...the easier for us to accept your opinions on "redeeming values".

gorgonzola · May 30, 2001, 08:40 PM

Originally posted by l'ignorante:

no say!!! Keep up the intelligent posts, moderators...the easier for us to accept your opinions on "redeeming values".

What's this supposed to mean? What's "no say!!!"? WTF are our opinions on "redeeming values"?

Are you being sarcastic? Use a sarcastic smiley or something ... plain text doesn't carry inflection of speech, remember?

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l'ignorante · May 30, 2001, 08:44 PM

Originally posted by l'ignorante:

Originally posted by gorgonzola:

There's also a big difference between an Indian wedding in the US and an Indian wedding in India...

no say!!! Keep up the intelligent posts, moderators...the easier for us to accept your opinions on "redeeming values" .

gorgonzola · May 30, 2001, 08:46 PM

Thanks.

You're contributing so much to the conversation, and you're amazingly witty, too...

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AlbertWu · May 30, 2001, 08:53 PM

Uh, back on topic...

Misha will be missed...

Back off topic:
Would they ever serve beef at an indian wedding in america?

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parallax · May 30, 2001, 09:02 PM

And it's moderated by one too

(Hint, hint!)

l'ignorante · May 30, 2001, 09:08 PM

Originally posted by gorgonzola:
Thanks.

You're contributing so much to the conversation, and you're amazingly witty, too...

recently a thread was closed because it did not have any " redeeming values". How exactly do you measure that. And talking about contributing to a conversation, I don't believe anything you said in this thread is remotely relevant to the original post. Fine with me, I didn't say anything relevant either...but when a topic is closed because you believe it is a load of crap, I get suspicious when I see you posting irrelevant nonsense yourself.

saj · May 30, 2001, 09:09 PM

Originally posted by AlbertWu:
Uh, back on topic...

Misha will be missed...

Back off topic:
Would they ever serve beef at an indian wedding in america?

At least I have few friends who eat beef. But their parents don't know.

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gorgonzola · May 30, 2001, 09:38 PM

I eat beef, and my parents know all about it.

*ducks to avoid the flying tomatoes*

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AlbertWu · May 30, 2001, 09:40 PM

Beef is good!

Just watch out for beef that seems a bit insane.

Does India have the lowest cases of CJD?

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gorgonzola · May 30, 2001, 09:41 PM

Originally posted by l'ignorante:
recently a thread was closed because it did not have any " redeeming values". How exactly do you measure that. And talking about contributing to a conversation, I don't believe anything you said in this thread is remotely relevant to the original post. Fine with me, I didn't say anything relevant either...but when a topic is closed because you believe it is a load of crap, I get suspicious when I see you posting irrelevant nonsense yourself.

If you could point me to this thread I closed, I'm fully willing to take a look. I don't remember closing any threads in here because they were "crap," but I move through a lot of forums at a time.

Link would be much appreciated. Then we can talk and we're both on the same page.

thanks

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AlbertWu · May 30, 2001, 09:44 PM

Useless threads should not be locked. (IMO, of course.) If people want to post to useless threads, then let them. If they don't want to, then avoid them.

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jagga · May 30, 2001, 10:04 PM

Originally posted by gorgonzola:
Crap, there are a lot more Indians on this BB than I thought.

P.S. I might have stayed awake the last time if I got the horse arrival. Lucky bastard Raman.

How about posting your first names?

My name is Navdeep. I'm 21 and go to UC Davis. Studying CSE. I have been in USA since 1993 when I moved from India. I'm a Sikh.

Any other indians wanna post some info about themselves?

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l'ignorante · May 30, 2001, 10:11 PM

Originally posted by gorgonzola:
If you could point me to this thread I closed, I'm fully willing to take a look. I don't remember closing any threads in here because they were "crap," but I move through a lot of forums at a time.

Link would be much appreciated. Then we can talk and we're both on the same page.

thanks

Well, I can't rememberr exactly, but I do remember the phrase " redeeming value" specifically.( I picked it up because I remember it also being used against Frank Zappa some 15 years ago). Maybe it wasn't you, but another moderator. I suppose you all take your independant actions, so if it wasn't you I owe you more credit. The thing is, lately there are a lot of complaints about meaningless threads, I for one enjoy those. And would like to keep that right. So my attitude in this case is quite ' ambivalent' (English?), I like people going of-topic, getting into nonsense and whatever..Moderating this chaos must be tough, and I suggest we bury our t�te a t�te.

DBursey · May 30, 2001, 10:13 PM

In order to bring a nice sense of unity and closure to the thread perhaps someone might suggest a big farewell banquet in Misha's honor to be held in a nice Indian restaurant!

Mmmm pass the tandori chicken please!

All together now .... We'll miss ya, Misha!

jagga · May 30, 2001, 10:17 PM

Originally posted by DBursey:
In order to bring a nice sense of unity and closure to the thread perhaps someone might suggest a big farewell banquet in Misha's honor to be held in a nice Indian restaurant! Mmmm pass the tandori chicken please!

All together now .... We'll miss ya, Misha!

Ok, I agree. All the indian related posts can be made in a new thread I just started. Just trying to keep this thread focused on one topic.

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gorgonzola · May 30, 2001, 10:21 PM

Originally posted by l'ignorante:

Well, I can't rememberr exactly, but I do remember the phrase " redeeming value" specifically.( I picked it up because I remember it also being used against Frank Zappa some 15 years ago). Maybe it wasn't you, but another moderator. I suppose you all take your independant actions, so if it wasn't you I owe you more credit. The thing is, lately there are a lot of complaints about meaningless threads, I for one enjoy those. And would like to keep that right. So my attitude in this case is quite ' ambivalent' (English?), I like people going of-topic, getting into nonsense and whatever..Moderating this chaos must be tough, and I suggest we bury our t�te a t�te.

I appreciate your diplomacy. I'm 99% sure it wasn't me, and while I'm all for fun, everything in moderation (pun intended).

Enough is enough. Who said the French and the Indians don't get along?

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BuonRotto · May 30, 2001, 11:05 PM

Gosh, so many Indian people in this little corner of the web alone. And now I'm listening to Anglo-Indian Jaz Coleman with iTunes. You'd think there were millions of you or something.

A friend of mine just went to India for her marriage -- all four days of it (maybe three)! I'd like to attend an Indian wedding one day for the sake of comparison -- to an Irish wedding, or wake for that matter.

I'll be the one at the reception wearing the elephant head yelling, "I am Ganesh!"

ThinkInsane · May 31, 2001, 02:59 AM

Originally posted by scaught:
did you try to go to sakellaropoulo.com ? it loads some page with "misha" in a big blue circle, but the site name changes to "www.sexymisha.com" ????

That is too funny. Sexy Misha???? LOL

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christ · May 31, 2001, 06:20 AM

Demonhood, not gorgonzola
http://forums.macnn.com/cgi-bin/Foru...ML/003300.html

I guess you guys aren't talking 'First Nation' Indians here?

Chris. T.

kaceygones · May 31, 2001, 11:19 AM

Originally posted by gorgonzola:
What's this supposed to mean? What's "no say!!!"? WTF are our opinions on "redeeming values"?

As a fellow poster, I don't find this language much of an example of any kind coming from an administrator.

kacey

kaceygones · May 31, 2001, 11:21 AM

P.S. Personally, I respected and admired Misha.
His seemed like a tough job, sometimes.

I will miss him.
kacey

gorgonzola · May 31, 2001, 11:46 AM

Originally posted by kaceygones:
As a fellow poster, I don't find this language much of an example of any kind coming from an administrator.

kacey

Point taken. Give me a week to settle in.

I apologize, but otoh, I never closed anything because it had "no redeeming value." Other mods may have closed it, but I didn't see what that had to do with me. Of course, he just made a mistake, but that wasn't apparent at the time. And then I made the mistake of lapsing into unnecessary speech.

Either way, it takes a little time to settle in to a new position and to always remember to watch what one says doubly carefully.

no hard feelings?

cheers,
gzl

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