[marden]

Fun Poll #7 Who's the Biggest Target of Hate Crimes in America?

(Listed Alphabetically)

1. Blacks
2. Disabled
3. Gays
4. Jews
5. Muslims

After there are 10 votes I will post the answer.

[Dakar²]

There are hate crimes against the disabled?!

[Sky Captain]

White homosexual men.

[turtle777]

Originally Posted by marden 

After there are 10 votes I will post the answer.

So you don't really give a sh!t what people have to say, you already have it all firgured out and ready to start your usual ramblings. Great. Just showing your true self.



-t

[Dakar²]

Maybe he read an article.

[Uncle Skeleton]

Christians are by far the biggest target. Poor guys. Maybe they're supposed to be under the "disabled" heading. It doesn't say mentally or physically disabled, maybe it means spiritually disabled.

[marden]

Just a few more.

[marden]

So close and yet...

[marden]

American Jews top hate-crime targets
Outnumber Muslim victims by 7-1 ratio, FBI stats show
Posted: October 23, 2006
1:00 a.m. Eastern

© 2006 WorldNetDaily.com


WASHINGTON – Who hates whom in America?

If the latest FBI hate-crime statistics are any indication, of the 1,314 verified offenses motivated by religious bias, 68.5 percent were anti-Jewish.

Only 11.1 percent were anti-Islamic, despite claims of rampant anti-Muslim bigotry in the U.S. by groups like the Council on American Islamic Relations.

Across the board, hate crimes in the U.S. dropped last year by 6 percent, according to the 2005 FBI report release last week, although violence against people based on their race accounted more than half of the reported incidents.

Police nationwide reported 7,163 hate crime incidents in 2005, targeting victims based on their race, ethnicity, religion, sexual orientation and disabilities. That was down from 2004, when the FBI reported 7,649 incidents.

(Story continues below)

The vast majority of hate crimes in both years were motivated by race, according the reports, which detailed the data based on so-called "single-bias" incidents. That means the crime was motivated by only one kind of bias against the victim, according to the FBI.

Race-based criminal activity accounted for 54.7 percent of hate crimes last year, up slightly from 52.9 percent in 2004, the FBI found.

Another 17 percent of hate crimes in 2005 targeted victims for their religious beliefs, and 14.2 percent for their sexual orientation.

Victims were assaulted in more than half – 50.7 percent – of the hate crime cases against people. Six people were murdered and another three were raped in reported hate crimes last year. The rest of the victims, or 48.9 percent, were intimidated, the report shows. The FBI also looked at hate crime incidents that targeted property, with 81.3 percent of cases resulting in damage, destruction or vandalism.

Sixty percent of the known offenders in 2005 were white, and 20 percent were black, the report showed.

The data was collected from police agencies across the country, representing city, county, state, tribal and federal law enforcement agencies.

WorldNetDaily: American Jews top hate-crime targets


I NEVER would have guessed.

[BRussell]

Read it again marden.

Of the 1,314 verified offenses motivated by religious bias, 68.5 percent were anti-Jewish.

And then

Race-based criminal activity accounted for 54.7 percent of hate crimes last year, up slightly from 52.9 percent in 2004, the FBI found.

Another 17 percent of hate crimes in 2005 targeted victims for their religious beliefs, and 14.2 percent for their sexual orientation.

There were more religious-based hate crimes against Jews vs. Muslims, but anti-Jewish hate crimes did not beat out racial (presumably anti-black) hate crimes.

That's what you get when you use conservatives sources of information like WorldNet Daily.

[Dakar²]

Oh dammit, I was gonna say that but I figured more blacks = more crimes.

Edit: Looks like some reinterpretation is going on.

[marden]

In the meantime here's a fun questionnaire.

HOMOPHOBIA QUESTIONNAIRE

Weigh your attitudes and beliefs about homosexuals on the "HOMOPHOBIA SCALE" and see how you rank.

Scientifically accurate scoring of this scale is not possible outside of actual research conditions. But the scale can be used as a rough but worthwhile measure of heterosexual attitudes toward homosexuals.

In general, the higher the score, the greater the negative attitudes and beliefs about homosexuals. At the end, you can compare your score to the participants' in the Adams study to see whether you ranked as more or less homophobic.

A note on the scoring: Answer honestly. The scoring of the test is not as obvious as the 1-5 numbering might indicate.

For much of this century, homosexuality was defined by the medical and scientific community as a psychiatric disorder. In the last several decades, however, "homosexuality" has been removed from the diagnostic manual of disorders, and research emphasis has shifted to the other side of the problem: the study of the negative, sometimes pathological, reactions to homosexuals by heterosexuals.

The term "homophobia" has gained currency as a one-word summary of this widespread problem. Since the early 1980's, scientists attempting to measure homophobia have developed a number of different homophobia scales and questionnaires.

In 1996, as part of his study on homophobia, Dr. Henry Adams and his colleagues at the University of Georgia developed their own "Homophobia Scale" by modifying scales used by other researchers in earlier studies. It's a 25-item questionnaire "designed to measure your thoughts, feelings and behaviors with regards to homosexuality." The instructions stressed: "It is not a test, so there are no right or wrong answers."

Below, FRONTLINE has reproduced this "Wright, Adams, and Bernat Homophobia Scale." It is not a perfect measure of anti-gay feelings or ideas, and is not a predictor of potential for anti-gay violence. [Though this scale was used in a research project designed to test the theory that homophobia is a manifestation of repressed homosexual desire, the scale is not a measure of homosexuality.]

This questionnaire is designed to measure your thoughts, feelings, and behaviors with regards to homosexuality. It is not a test, so there are no right or wrong answers. Answer each item by checking the number after each question as follows:


1 = Strongly agree
2 = Agree
3 = Neither agree nor disagree
4 = Disagree
5 = Strongly disagree

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontl.../etc/quiz.html

[marden]

My score?

31 - Your score rates you as "non-homophobic."

[Dakar²]

31 - Your score rates you as "non-homophobic."

[Dakar²]

We got the same score! Wanna make out?

[marden]

Originally Posted by Dakar² 

We got the same score! Wanna make out?

Uh, thanks but I'm a conservative.

[black bear theory]

Originally Posted by BRussell 

Read it again marden. And then

There were more religious-based hate crimes against Jews vs. Muslims, but anti-Jewish hate crimes did not beat out racial (presumably anti-black) hate crimes.

That's what you get when you use conservatives sources of information like WorldNet Daily.

to marden's credit, he never said it wasn't blacks, rather the title (falsely) implied it was jews. marden didn't answer that's all.

or he didn't read the article.

[marden]

Originally Posted by black bear theory 

to marden's credit, he never said it wasn't blacks, rather the title (falsely) implied it was jews. marden didn't answer that's all.

or he didn't read the article.

OR he didn't answer cuz he didn't read the article. Or...

[Dakar²]

Originally Posted by marden 

Uh, thanks but I'm a conservative.

And?

[Dark Helmet]

Originally Posted by Dakar² 

31 - Your score rates you as "non-homophobic."

I scored a 24

[Dakar²]

Is lower better or worse?

[marden]

Originally Posted by Dakar² 

And?

We are discrete about our homosexuality or at least I'd be, if I were. Not ashamed and hiding, but not flambe' assed either.

*Thoughts turn to Simey. I kinda miss him.*

[Dark Helmet]

Originally Posted by marden 

Uh, thanks but I'm a conservative.

My condolences.

[Dakar²]

Well, I didn't say we should do it in front of the entire forum.

(Just a select few)

[nonhuman]

Originally Posted by marden 

In the meantime here's a fun questionnaire.



http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontl.../etc/quiz.html

Apparently I'm a 'high-grade non-homophobic'. Whatever...

[Dark Helmet]

Originally Posted by Dakar² 

Is lower better or worse?

Lower is less homophobic but 24 is still pretty high considering I am gay

[marden]

Originally Posted by Dark Helmet 

Lower is less homophobic but 24 is still pretty high considering I am gay

Maybe a slight bit of self loathing going on there? If it was any higher I'd suspect self-flagellation.

[marden]

Originally Posted by Dakar² 

Well, I didn't say we should do it in front of the entire forum.

(Just a select few)

Just the act of propositioning in public is a bit too, too, tutu.

[Dark Helmet]

Originally Posted by marden 

Maybe a slight bit of self loathing going on there? If it was any higher I'd suspect self-flagellation.

Nope. I just answered truthfully about how I feel around other gay people but that they should still get the same rights and not be discriminated against.

I like being gay, if I could have a pill to make me straight overnight I wouldn't want it.

[Dakar²]

Sorry. I got excited when our scores matched.

[marden]

Originally Posted by Dark Helmet 

My condolences.

"Show me a young conservative and I'll show you someone with no heart. Show me an old liberal and I'll show you someone with no brains."

[marden]

Originally Posted by Dakar² 

Sorry. I got excited when our scores matched.

Do you say that to all the boys?

[marden]

Originally Posted by Dark Helmet 

Nope. I just answered truthfully about how I feel around other gay people but that they should still get the same rights and not be discriminated against.

I like being gay, if I could have a pill to make me straight overnight I wouldn't want it.

[Rumor]

Ironically, I scored a 7.

[Dark Helmet]

Originally Posted by marden 

"Show me a young conservative and I'll show you someone with no heart. Show me an old liberal and I'll show you someone with no brains."

Ooooh, it is a snarky political showdown!

[cakey]

Do you even own a Mac marden?

[sek929]

Originally Posted by what_the_heck 

So you don't really give a sh!t what people have to say, you already have it all firgured out and ready to start your usual ramblings. Great. Just showing your true self.



-t

This is new to you?

He's been posting with his fingers in his ears going "la la la" ever since he first came here as Mojo. He couldn't care less what anyone else thinks, just as long as they pay attention to his blathering.

Marden, WTF is the point of polling members here when you already "know" the answer?

Also, I would like to reiterate a question I asked you before. Are you in love with the sound of your own voice?

[DBursey]

Do you even own a Mac marden?

Aren't there MacMardens in Kilarney area?

I don't agree with being homophobic. Homos should be no more or less phobic than hetros.

[Rumor]

Wow.

He found an article that he thought was interesting and wondered what our consensus would be.

So he created a poll to see if what we thought would match what he read.

Is that really so horrible?

I thought it was an interesting idea. It was meant with good intentions and he wasn't trying to get anyone worked up.

So you guys lay off him a bit.

[sek929]

Maybe if this was a new thing for him, but he constantly asks for opinions then gives his as the end-all-be-all.

[Rumor]

In the case, you guys are jumping his **** just to jump his ****.

The point of polling before revealing the article is just to see if our thoughts matched the article.

When he posted the article, all he said was "I never would have guessed", so this time he isn't trying to have his opinion be the end all.

I do understand he does this often, but he was condemned at the beginning of the thread unfairly.

[DBursey]

Marden is pure evil, with totally malign intent. Also, he's under the influence of radical Iranian mullahs.

Mind you, I don't mean that in a bad way. As I recall, he once mentioned a certain fondness for kittens and small children.

I think he may have linked the recipe.

[Sky Captain]

23 - Your score rates you as "high-grade non-homophobic."

[marden]

Originally Posted by Dark Helmet 

Ooooh, it is a snarky political showdown!

Once again, you misunderstand. I was just stating what I believe to be, GENERALLY, true. And if anything, it is a defense of most of the fuzzy brained youngsters here.

Unless you are trying to tell us you are not a youngster.

I guess what a wise old guy once told me is true: you can't not tell your story.

[marden]

Originally Posted by cakey 

Do you even own a Mac marden?

If not, so what?

If so, so what?

[marden]

Originally Posted by sek929 

Are you in love with the sound of your own voice?

No, yours.

BTW, how's the paw?

[Gossamer]

74 - Your score rates you as "homophobic."
In his 1996 study of 64 Caucasian, male college students, Dr. Henry Adams classed 35 participants as "non-homophobic." In 1980, a different research team found 56% of their white, male sample scored in the homophobic range. This is not conclusive, however. Dr. Adams, the researcher who helped develop this scale, writes that "a major difficulty of this area of research is in defining and measuring homophobia." Elsewhere, he cautions: Since there is no universally accepted definition of homophobia, the scales currently in use may not measure all aspects of homophobia.

Ouch. I thought I was answering fairly conservatively. I don't think gays should be discriminated against, I've never done anything to a gay person, I'm reasonably comfortable around them, but I believe the act is wrong. I'm still homophobic?

[dcmacdaddy]

I think Black-Lesbian-Veteran-Amputees are the biggest target of hate crimes. I know I really HATE that group of people.

[Uncle Skeleton]

Originally Posted by marden 

If not, so what?

If so, so what?

Didn't your mother ever teach you not to answer a question with a question?

[Spliffdaddy]

8 - Your score rates you as "high-grade non-homophobic."