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Eug Wanker · Jun 2, 2006, 08:25 AM

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Apple Pro Underwear · Jun 2, 2006, 08:35 AM

even with 1 mouse button I can delte a alias faster than that

Big Mac · Jun 2, 2006, 08:44 AM

That's almost as stupid as Apple switching to Intel. . .

Doofy · Jun 2, 2006, 08:46 AM

I would have thought

Code:
format C:

would have been a better choice.

zmcgill · Jun 2, 2006, 08:48 AM

Originally Posted by Big Mac

That's almost as stupid as Apple switching to Intel. . .

Nice! Throw the whole thread off topic in the third post!

I agree with Doofy. I bet you could format your hard drive in less than seven steps.

SpaceMonkey · Jun 2, 2006, 09:13 AM

I like the one that says "You don't currently have permission to delete this file. Click continue to complete the operation."

So I take it you don't actually need to enter a password or anything to delete files owned by System? Great design.

analogika · Jun 2, 2006, 11:12 AM

Originally Posted by Big Mac

That's almost as stupid as Apple switching to Intel. . .

You've own3d both real good in the stupidity department with that post, though.

Congratulations.

Jawbone54 · Jun 2, 2006, 11:13 AM

Windows intuitiveness at its finest. Seems like the OS REEEALLY wants to hang on to that shortcut.

Jawbone54 · Jun 2, 2006, 11:14 AM

Originally Posted by Big Mac

That's almost as stupid as Apple switching to Intel. . .

Yeah, really dumb of them to experience dramatic speed boosts in the MacBook, MBP, iMac, and Maci Mini.

How dare they speed up their lines.......idiots....

euphras · Jun 2, 2006, 11:21 AM

I really like this security metaphor related buckler symbol with the windows color scheme....

.... that´s sooo mediaevalish

Socially Awkward Solo · Jun 2, 2006, 11:21 AM

Originally Posted by Jawbone54

Yeah, really dumb of them to experience dramatic speed boosts in the MacBook, MBP, iMac, and Maci Mini.

How dare they speed up their lines.......idiots....

I know, what a ding dong. The MBP being buggy POS is Apples fault. The iMac and Mini run flawlessly with the intel chips in them. It is scary seeing the low end Mini run just as fast at the Dual G5 that Apples sells for MUCH more but doesn't even come with airport or Bluetooth like the mini does. Even more scary is the WHOLE mini with the just as powerful chips is less than half the size of the G5's heatsync.

Anywho, this shortcut thing is a joke. I hope that it is just a problem in the beta.

Adam Betts · Jun 2, 2006, 11:22 AM

I doubt that's intended though. They have plenty of time to polish Vista

Eug Wanker · Jun 2, 2006, 11:24 AM

Originally Posted by Jawbone54

Yeah, really dumb of them to experience dramatic speed boosts in the MacBook, MBP, iMac, and Maci Mini.

How dare they speed up their lines.......idiots....

^^^ Heh. Yeah.

I'm lovin' it™

Anyways, I really wonder what those interface designers were thinking. Then again, I hate it when the OS X Trash hangs onto files forever, even after the apps have quit. Problem with the OS, the apps, or both?

olePigeon · Jun 2, 2006, 11:50 AM

Originally Posted by Eug Wanker

Anyways, I really wonder what those interface designers were thinking. Then again, I hate it when the OS X Trash hangs onto files forever, even after the apps have quit. Problem with the OS, the apps, or both?

That's when you jump into Terminal and rm -f.... I think it stands for "remove the f*cker."

turtle777 · Jun 2, 2006, 12:04 PM

Muahahaha

Vista is gonna kill M$.

-t

greenamp · Jun 2, 2006, 12:12 PM

And that is exactly how vista will ship as well. What a POS.

rickey939 · Jun 2, 2006, 12:14 PM

Microsoft will be out of business before Vista ships.®

TheoCryst · Jun 2, 2006, 12:20 PM

I'll be retired in Florida before Vista ships.®

greenamp · Jun 2, 2006, 12:23 PM

I like the giant "X" close tab at the top left on the Vista Window. Too bad it never works.

zmcgill · Jun 2, 2006, 12:51 PM

Originally Posted by greenamp

I like the giant "X" close tab at the top left on the Vista Window. Too bad it never works.

Yeah, I never understood why you'd put a 'close' button on an alert window that already gives you the choices 'ok' and 'cancel.' Wow.

TETENAL · Jun 2, 2006, 12:58 PM

Originally Posted by Gossamer

Yeah, I never understood why you'd put a 'close' button on an alert window that already gives you the choices 'ok' and 'cancel.' Wow.

It's the third choice "OK", "Cancel" and "[X] Whatever" for people who don't want to read the dialogs. I know Windows users who can click away dialog boxes before they're finished drawing.

Tomchu · Jun 2, 2006, 01:59 PM

Originally Posted by SpaceMonkey

I like the one that says "You don't currently have permission to delete this file. Click continue to complete the operation."

So I take it you don't actually need to enter a password or anything to delete files owned by System? Great design.

That's exactly what I was thinking ...

OS X's design is such that it default-denies access to anything that you don't have permissions to do. It asks for temporary authentication.

Windows' "user security" seems like a kludge in the sense that the system says you don't have permission, but you can override that with a single mouse click, because really ... the system has permission, it just has a few dialogs in the way of you getting there. Why don't they just suck it up and do a password-based authentication system like OS X? Back to basics, people.

Spliffdaddy · Jun 2, 2006, 04:13 PM

To be fair, the multiple steps involved with deleting that particular icon are rooted in the fact that the icon is "owned" by "System". When a user deletes an icon that was created by the user, it's a one step process. If the icon happens to point at an executeable file, there is a "confirm delete" warning (deleting this shortcut will not remove the application, you must open the 'ADD/REMOVE Programs' pane in order to uninstall the program) - making it a 2-step process.

Get over it.

zmcgill · Jun 2, 2006, 04:15 PM

Originally Posted by Spliffdaddy

To be fair, the multiple steps involved with deleting that particular icon are rooted in the fact that the icon is "owned" by "System". When a user deletes an icon that was created by the user, it's a one step process. If the icon happens to point at an executeable file, there is a "confirm delete" warning (deleting this shortcut will not remove the application, you must open the 'ADD/REMOVE Programs' pane in order to uninstall the program) - making it a 2-step process.

Get over it.

Well, according to the pictures, identifying that there is an icon to delete is step 1, so you'd have a 3 step process.

adster · Jun 2, 2006, 04:36 PM

You can turn it off. Also, in the latest builds, the number of steps has been greatly reduced, AFAIK.

Salty · Jun 4, 2006, 01:11 AM

Well I'm glad that they caught that error. Yeesh good thing someone tried to delete something, and brought to their attention that process... the way you delete things really isn't that important... so I can understand why it would have been handled so badly... oh wait... haha... nope how you delete things is actually pretty important.

cc_foo · Jun 4, 2006, 01:21 AM

Is there an Alias Deletion Wizard that makes things easier?

analogika · Jun 4, 2006, 05:06 AM

Oisín · Jun 4, 2006, 05:19 AM

Originally Posted by Gossamer

Well, according to the pictures, identifying that there is an icon to delete is step 1, so you'd have a 3 step process.

Well, in that case, we’d still be stuck with a 16-step system:

1. Identifying that there is an icon to delete.
2. Identify which icon is to be deleted.
3. Move hand towards mouse.
4. Place hand on mouse.
5. Use mouse to move cursor to icon to be deleted.
6. Click on left mouse button to highlight icon.
7. Click on right mouse button to bring up context menu.
8. Move cursor to item named “Delete”.
9. Click on left mouse button to select “Delete” item.
10. Realise that a dialogue box has appeared on your screen.
11. Read dialogue box.
12. Realise that you’re supposed to click on “Yes” to continue deletion of icon to be deleted.
13. Use mouse to move cursor to “Yes” button.
14. Click on left mouse button to click “Yes” button.
15. See that icon to be deleted has now been removed from desktop.
16. Panic as you realise you’ve just removed your C drive from Vista.

©öñFü$íóÑ · Jun 4, 2006, 02:20 PM

unnecisarily complicated

Peter · Jun 4, 2006, 04:15 PM

beta product.

wallinbl · Jun 4, 2006, 04:15 PM

What's worse is the file save dialog. It's a pain in the neck to put something where I want it. The only thing I can guess is that MS was trying to make darn sure that novice users put the file in the folder that the dialog defaulted to.

JoshuaZ · Jun 5, 2006, 12:14 AM

Originally Posted by Peter

beta product.

Hmm... but when will it be finished....

demograph68 · Jun 5, 2006, 12:20 AM

Good thing it isn't the final release version.

Originally Posted by Adam Betts

I doubt that's intended though. They have plenty of time to polish Vista

Exactly.

Originally Posted by cc_foo

Is there an Alias Deletion Wizard that makes things easier?

I wouldn't put it past MS to actually try that.