[Michel_80]

Link

Not bad, amazing screen and lighter than the 12" PB.

But no OS X and a high price.

[RooneyX]

Originally posted by Michel_80:
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Not bad, amazing screen and lighter than the 12" PB.

But no OS X and a high price.

With 1.8Ghz Dothan and a 9700 it could eat a PB12 at any benchmark tho.

[SplijinX]

Mmm...still no OS X apps though, unless development on this "VirtualMac" kicks into gear:

http://www.wired.com/news/mac/0,2125,63456,00.html

Maybe prices will drop if there is a bit of competition?

[iDORK]

I hope Apple will release a wide-aspect model of their 12" (13.3"). That Sony laptop is very nice.

Originally posted by Michel_80:
Link

Not bad, amazing screen and lighter than the 12" PB.

But no OS X and a high price.

[Michel_80]

What Apple need to do is release that screen the Sony got. Otherwise there is no competition (in that area).

Overall I prefer the 'books

[Link]

Apple should use a 13.666" widescreen

Oh yeah, and a 2.5ghz g4 and r9800 mobile.. I bet you'd still bitch about the dothams being faster even though they're just P3s with a bunch of things bolted on

[Michel_80]

Originally posted by Link:
Apple should use a 13.666" widescreen

Oh yeah, and a 2.5ghz g4 and r9800 mobile.. I bet you'd still bitch about the dothams being faster even though they're just P3s with a bunch of things bolted on

Wow, what's wrong? Did I offend you with posting about non-apple laptop?

[RooneyX]

Originally posted by Link:
Apple should use a 13.666" widescreen

Oh yeah, and a 2.5ghz g4 and r9800 mobile.. I bet you'd still bitch about the dothams being faster even though they're just P3s with a bunch of things bolted on

Didn't know P3s were faster than G5s at the same clockspeed.

There must be something more to it.

[sniffer]

Mmm.. Celeron M. *drool*





Yep it looks nice. Other vendors than Apple can make laptops too.

[rag on a muffin]

oh great, another sony vs. apple thread. take your arguments here

[h00ligan]

can anyone translate.. what are the specs on this machine.. i doubt it could be a dothan with 9700 more likely a 1.2 banias and integrated graphics..

that small with a dothan and radeon and i'd be tempted as hell.

[Michel_80]

Celeron M? I did not notice it, but the lower end got that.
This laptop is the first from Sony to get me excited for a long time.
It's: (top spec)

1.8 Dothan
1GB Ram
64 Radeon 9700
DVDRW
1.89kg
2.9cm thickness

[Link]

Nah, no real fret except "OMG it's a dotham!" OMG what a stupid name for a processor >_<

The laptops are fine. Like the xbox, most sony laptops, some HP, toshiba, boxx, dell laptops, etc.. they're fine

Not that great.. the powerbooks aren't that awesome either IMHO but they're also.. fine.

[milhous]

the 13.6" makes sense. then the entire powerbook line would be widescreen. one has to admit that the 12" does look a bit out of place when compared to the 15 and 17, but i also wouldn't have any reservations buying the current 12" as is.

[n_lim]

I usually am not attracted to Vaios at all, but the specs on this sound really nice. I have never found a pc version of the mac magic of: portability, build quality, full function (internal drives), sexiness and of course, the joy of OSX.

Having said that, I would actually consider trading in my 12" rev. A for this but only because I am forced to use PC-only software (Autocad, Viz). Please don't say Virtual PC because it just ain't cutting it yet.

I think its important to realize that PC's are getting better and catching up to the mac curve, especially in battery life and portable performance although no one is even close to the aesthetics of a mac yet.

How much would this thing cost? I haven't seen any specs in english yet and my alta vista translation was pretty terse.

[shatten22]

i think it looks sweet.

apple should definitely "copy" this for the 12 inch pbook.

g

[sniffer]

Yeah, what's the price on these? Not that I would care to buy one, but for comparison it would be interesting to know..

[n_lim]

After doing some currency conversion based on the prices on this page, the top of the line type s with the 1.8 dothan, 1gb ram, 6o gig HD, and the 64md 9700 comes out to US$3,363.60 @4.16lbs. Expensive, but to me this is a pretty ideal combination of features other than the OS. If it were closer to $2500 I would be all over it.

Someone who actually can read what it says and isn't guessing like i am please feel free to chime in.

[RooneyX]

Originally posted by n_lim:
I usually am not attracted to Vaios at all, but the specs on this sound really nice. I have never found a pc version of the mac magic of: portability, build quality, full function (internal drives), sexiness and of course, the joy of OSX.

Huh? I think Powerbooks have had more build quality complaints than Thinkpads and Vaios. And we have never had full funtioning DVD-RW.....neutered speeds + compatibility and also no packet writing.

[sniffer]

Originally posted by RooneyX:
Huh? I think Powerbooks have had more build quality complaints than Thinkpads and Vaios. And we have never had full funtioning DVD-RW.....neutered speeds + compatibility and also no packet writing.

Why are you playing the Wintel advocate here all the time? Most people (except a few stubborn) agree there are great hardware alternatives out there if you are looking for one. But most of us aren't for various reasons. So what's the deal here?

[RooneyX]

Originally posted by sniffer:
Why are you playing the Wintel advocate here all the time? Most people (except a few stubborn) agree there are great hardware alternatives out there if you are looking for one. But most of us aren't for various reasons. So what's the deal here?

What does the DVD-RW have to do with Intel or Microsoft?

[sniffer]

Originally posted by RooneyX:
What does the DVD-RW have to do with Intel or Microsoft?

Everything non-apple consumer usually means windows compatible hardware. Would it make a difference if I said x86 platform advocate then? Anyway, in case you missed it:

oh great, another sony vs. apple thread. take your arguments here

[Cadaver]

Originally posted by n_lim:
After doing some currency conversion based on the prices on this page, the top of the line type s with the 1.8 dothan, 1gb ram, 6o gig HD, and the 64md 9700 comes out to US$3,363.60 @4.16lbs. Expensive, but to me this is a pretty ideal combination of features other than the OS. If it were closer to $2500 I would be all over it.

Trouble is, it would still be far too expensive for a small laptop that is aiming for the mainstream market.

While I might spend $2500 for a 17" PB or a way supped up 15" PB, I don't think the market is too big for a $2500 13" PB. $1700, sure. But not for the same price as a bigger machine.

Yes, I know there are some who would buy it, but remember, Apple is a business who's goal is to make money. They wont sell a product they don't believe they can make money on.

Apple would be nailed for price gouging even more than Sony would.

[Michel_80]

Well, Sony carries an price premium because they are very expensive to manufacture (no outsourcing, japan rates etc). Their customer support is not up to scratch, maybe because they make too make products and the lifespan is very little (just look at clies).

[Link]

Yes, but as we know apple is like sony in that respect..

Thing is, even at 1700 a lot of people would bitch and moan aout the price.

[Michel_80]

Apple is like Sony in what respect?

I think Apple laptops represent the best value in the market (at least where I live, something to do with easy education price). Stunning value come to think about it.

[rag on a muffin]

so whats the speed ratio on this thing compared to a powerbook 12"? anyone have a benchmark?

[Michel_80]

I don't know, probably 2x as fast.

[Phrixus]

I would like to see a benchmark!

One day I am ready to buy a Powerbook.. then everyone decides a WinTel machine is better and faster... and I think.. 'Blimey.... I'm confused'!

[angelmb]

Nothing special since for my taste two or more predominant colours on a laptop looks old fashioned.